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The computers you listed have integrated [cabbage]ty graphics cards. For games slightly graphically demanding like WoW just make sure they have @ least 256mb dedicated video memory and they should be fine. "gaming laptops" are overhyped and overpriced, avoid them completely, unless you are very rich.

Why not? All computers come with vista new now. I'd suggest a Dell Inspiron. Within this category there are a few choices and customizations the rest is up to you.

I use both, just depends what mood I'm in. I like them both equally.

why did you get denied a loan? Erm, the economy is horrible right now. Banks are barely lending to each other and investors that know what they're doing, let alone investing in a college student :( Judging by my budget, I'm going to be like $660 short (if I spend NO money on personal expenses and only on rent, utilities, books, and food). $660 would be easy to make, sell some stuff....work @ a gas station for a couple weeks

student weekdays work @ a computer repair/retailer shop on breaks and weekends been working here since i was 15 in Oct 07, over a year $7/hr. I plan to get Sisco certified soon, because it looks good on college apps and it'll help me get a job to pay me through college/make money if I quit this job.

don't celebrate Christmas, but for Hanukkah I'm prolly getting a digital camera and or 80gb/120gb ipod

Eh, I don't really care about your vacation. Idk if this even belongs in off-topic. Sounds like you had fun though.

I don't know if you're just not being serious or if you're really that stupid. From previous posts I would assume the former, but... If he is being serious or not, both are valid and popular viewpoints on the matter. Many people would prefer not being a member of the civilization we live in, but are still subject to it as its nearly impossible to escape. On the contrary he could be using sarcasm and saying that cars and industrialization in general is the reason we're still not living in the "old times".

You downsize me for not knowing a claim that you state as nothing but the truth, and that it is such common knowledge that you simply have to halt the argument for that reason. You look like a fool, making yourself believe a false claim made by yourself, not the false claim that light is addictive, but the false claim that it is common knowledge. Please give me a shred of proof that your claim is correct, not because I know for a fact it is false, but for arguments sake. Ask 10 people if they think the question on whether light waves are addictive is common knowledge. Your just fooling yourself.

I am on the fan board because it is one of the oldest communities I am a part of currently, and I also still take interest in Runescape. Just because I quit doesn't mean I cannot discuss it. If it is such common knowledge that " computer screens stimulate the brain in a form comparable to uppers, and when stimulated as such you prefer a familiar feeling, for example, if you were on uppers, you would stick with the same drug, you would not try a different upper" (light waves from computer screens are addicting), then it should should be easy to find a source. Instead of even making more baseless claims, prove them. If you can find a source that tells me screen light patterns are addictive, then I will believe that they are. But this still has nothing to do with Runescape being addictive. You just felt that it supported your argument, when really it was totally irrelevant.

First off, no sane or without other variables contributing to the problem would act that eratticly over a game. Overall, anything has the ability to cause addiction if accustomed in certain environments and for long enough periods of time. I am saying, by it self, Runescape isn't more addicting than something like chewing gum. that's the thing, Runescape caused these variables, depression, things like that. You are thinking only of physical addiction, psychological addiction can be more deadly. Rehabilitation is used for breaking psychological addiction, most likely by the time someone goes there, they either never had a physical addiction or it has already been broken. the way you are speaking, you think psychological addiction isn't powerful. On the contrary, it is very. Rofl, your making Runescape seem way to powerful. As I just said, Runescape isn't anymore addictive than chewing gum. I never implied or stated any opinions on whether pshycological or physical addiction was more serious, and happen to totally agree that phycological addiction is worse, but that is irrelivant to any points you or I have made. Alright, i suppose i have gotten a bit off topic. There is one difference, however, between Runescape and chewing gum. computer screens emit strong amounts of light that can effect the brain, after playing too long, this can cause a inbalance in brain chemicals(don't ask me on the specifics, i'm not in biochemistry, this is independent study) that can cause the feeling that a computer screen is good for one's self, sort of like the feeling you get when you eat a big meal. This can cause a physical addiction to computer screens, especially the source image, Runescape in this case, because this provides a familiar feeling. This isn't the leading cause of Runescape addiction, as one would have to play as if they were psychologically addicted in the first place in order to achieve this state, however, this makes Runescape much stronger than you might think. I did blow its power out of proportion with my extreme examples, however, you underestimate it as well. Just read the leaving Runescape sticky, you'll see there are many more addicts than there are chewing gum addicts, and chewing gum sells many more units than Runescape. If anyone was ever "addicted" to Runescape, that I know is myself. Up untill 3 weeks ago, I played hours and hours a day, even interfering with my homework and school. Do I consider it an addiction at all? - No, I did not suffer any trauma when quitting 3 weeks ago; sure I was bored a bit, and had to learn how to fill up my schedual a little differently, but it wasn't too bad. As for your argument about how Runescape is different than chewing gum, where you claim that neurochemicals are a physical component of Runescape addiction. First I want to say that you shouldn't make baseless claims, without sources, especially when you say yourself that you haven't studied biochemistry. But okay, I'll humor you. Based on those standards in which "biochemicals" which a Runescape player has once playing Runescape, gum would be far more addictive, no? It stimulates muscle-patterns, releases flavor receptors, and fofills the need many people have of having something in their mouth (one of the causes of ciggarette addiction). Also, saying Runescape effects the brain, unless your speaking strictly about the content of Runescape (which you're not), then it is not Runescape, but the computer itself, so blame Bill Gates and the William Krooks for inventing the Computer and CRT.

First off, no sane or without other variables contributing to the problem would act that eratticly over a game. Overall, anything has the ability to cause addiction if accustomed in certain environments and for long enough periods of time. I am saying, by it self, Runescape isn't more addicting than something like chewing gum. that's the thing, Runescape caused these variables, depression, things like that. You are thinking only of physical addiction, psychological addiction can be more deadly. Rehabilitation is used for breaking psychological addiction, most likely by the time someone goes there, they either never had a physical addiction or it has already been broken. the way you are speaking, you think psychological addiction isn't powerful. On the contrary, it is very. Rofl, your making Runescape seem way to powerful. As I just said, Runescape isn't anymore addictive than chewing gum. I never implied or stated any opinions on whether pshycological or physical addiction was more serious, and happen to totally agree that phycological addiction is worse, but that is irrelivant to any points you or I have made.

First off, no sane or without other variables contributing to the problem would act that eratticly over a game. Overall, anything has the ability to cause addiction if accustomed in certain environments and for long enough periods of time. I am saying, by it self, Runescape isn't more addicting than something like chewing gum.

I think most MMORPG's can be defined as addictive. No, stopping Runescape would not cause severe trauma, even in the most extreme circumstances. Taking a dictionary defintion of a scientific term is not always acurate. Runescape can be defined as psychologically addictive, because if you abruptly take it away from someone who plays, say, 3 hours a day, they would experience trauma. However, Runescape can be weened off of through sheer will power, just like any physically addictive substance. In that respect, Runescape is addictive. Please elaborate, what kind of trauma would be suffered if Runescape was stopped "cold turkey".

I think most MMORPG's can be defined as addictive. No, stopping Runescape would not cause severe trauma, even in the most extreme circumstances.

becoming a real tank, and quitting.

Nope

Your "evil-empire" theory is identical to those toward fascist regimes, like North Korea who actually pose a real and substantial threat to human lives with their unstable government and manipulation techniques. People may agree with you, but that is the very essence of humans around the age of 12-20 in our society; they find the idea of a "revolutionist" movements cool, in which bash "the man". And I see you obviously find Jagex to be "the man". The reality of your claims prove only that Jagex is identical to almost every other company with many consumers on this planet; they want profit, a steady and happy customer base, and growth. FACT: By definition, Runescape is not "addictive" FACT: Jagex doesn't have global domination on their itinerary Thats all, I just want people to see through these attention-grabbing claims.

I have nothing against big gas guzzlers, people with enough money or enough financial stupidity will always buy them; if I had a bunch of extra money I probably would also. To get mad at someone for buying a gas-guzzler is like a vegetarian getting mad @ someone who eats meat; it will happen anyway and trying to convince one person to stop is just too nominal to do anything.

a common troll copypasta

grats/10

Beck: In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey Butane in my veins and Im out to cut the junkie With the plastic eyeballs, spray-paint the vegetables Dog food stalls with the beefcake pantyhose Kill the headlights and put it in neutral Stock car flamin with a loser and the cruise control Babys in reno with the vitamin d Got a couple of couches, sleep on the love-seat Someone came in sayin Im insane to complain About a shotgun wedding and a stain on my shirt Dont believe everything that you breathe You get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve So shave your face with some mace in the dark Savin all your food stamps and burnin down the trailer park An epitome of Becks' "alternative" style, a truly one of a kind band. Will get some diff ones from other bands l8er.

I wouldn't. Not specifically for a meaningful answer, but just try to live in a constant state of gain, whether it be knowledge, wisdom or whatever. I see the "fun" your describing as a mask, and an excess of it can be destructive to the way we see the world. Humans have stimulated their indulgences since the birth of mankind, why not try to DO something that doesn't involve pleasing yourself as its generally more constructive to your life and will be more beneficial in the long-run. The truth is (most people) DON'T have one day to live.

My step-dad is addicted to soda too, fast food, ice cream and chocolate. Yet he claims to be on a diet, sometimes even while eating ice cream.

Hit them back. If they strike harder.....hit them again....harder, and continue doing this. Then the next day when someone asks where you got your bruises tell them the truth. :mrgreen: