This was a RSOF thread I just made under Suggestions, I decided to put it on tip to see if anyone feels the same way as me or has any input. Hi, this topic is regarding familiars and unwanted experience given by them. First to start off, lets establish where I'm coming from. I have been playing since 2004, making my account how I wanted since the start I've done what is fun for me, I think that is what this game is all about, Having fun and watching yourself progress in your own unique way. I have the stats I want, I am a tank-ranger/mager. Having 99 range, defence, magic and hitpoints. Ever since about early 2006 I have avoided Strength and Attack entirely as I LOVE being a tank. Since the release of Summoning I have enjoyed training the skill and its many uses that it has in everyday Runescaping. I constantly use my terrorbird for its energy scroll and holding supplies. I also use the spirit graahk while rcing. But ever since using these two familiars I am slowly gaining attack and strength experience respectively as I often go through multicombat areas where monsters are aggresive towards me. And what does my familiar do? It attacks these monsters giving me experience in these skills I go out of my way not to train and that I feel define my character. I have gained thousands of experience in both these skills, closing in to the next levels just because of the experience from my familiars. It may seem nominal but it definatly adds up. I get attack and strength experience in the ZMI, saradomin gwd solo'ing, dking, the abyss, and some slayer assignments. Soon I will have to avoid using these very useful familiars completely and all my time training Summoning will become that much more useless.