wormy

After some of the dungeoneering Q&A's they have stated that it was purposely implemented, as incentives for us F2Pers to get P2P.

Oh that prog must only suck up one extra click, well I hope you can live with the 'feature'

Wow This is one of the few tech problems that I couldn't find an answer either; I would first try to update the mouse driver, if that does not fix then see if you can return the mouse. Last ditch effort; http://www.pupuweb.com/blog/optical-mouse-single-click-problem-solved/ I havn't personally used it, but it may work; use at own risk, yeah yeah. Goodluck

That's already one of the medium tasks. :P hmm so we get to cut that yew tree!!! =D I am expecting almost a copy of medium, except add 20ish levels to whatever is there, plus a few oddballs to makeup for lack of being able to fish and the others.

It is decent speed for not doing anything, but the cost is fairly steep. For wind blast ~15 gp/xp!, xp/hr for strike and bolt are kind of terrible.

I'd say bad luck, at least with the roaches. I am still getting my usual 1-2 rune items per trip. Also lootshare if on, might have somewhat wiggled the results. As for greaters, I have never really set down to kill them. I started a log after my 1k roach log(to compare), but the greaters have really been outclassed by roaches and so I stopped after only 50ish kills.

oh, didn't know that, thanks for the correction =]

For combat, lvl 54 skeletons on cranor was THE spot to train at. The only other comparable place would be graveyard in wild, both sometimes used the "open lots of windows so rs is super laggy lagging you out every min or so(whistle)" to get around the standing still timer. edit; pre dragon slayer I would have to guess ice warriors, black knights were kinda popular, and red spiders.

Err it does effect the prestige xp, the prestige xp is basically the base xp you would have gotten on the prestige's floor level(that is why they are the same number when the floor you are raiding is equal to the prestige floor). So it is a triple whammy.

Ok first of all you need to learn about binding =] My advice return to complexity 1, any floor you will start with an inventory full of goodies, right click the fractite weapon and select 'bind' Exit the dungeon and start at the floor you want to explore at complexity 6, you will always start with the weapon that you have bound. My experience spear>2h>battle axe>long then it gets a little muddled. Reason for the spear is because it can ultilize all three attack styles stab, crush, slash; this is important because the monsters in deamonheim are hyper sensitive to attack styles. For weaknesses ask/or look at a guide. I am a semi-high level and found that I really do not need armor to get through a dungeon. So if you are finding it hard to stay alive make some armor, all the floors are fairly similar so if you needed armor on floor 4, you will probably need it or floor 5. Onto pickaxe question, if you are planning on making armor then I would try for a krat pickaxe, they are much cheaper than a fract and will yield a similar number of ores from a rock. For normal axe/hatchet do not bother with a high level one, unless you need to make money through selling logs.... then krat again. As a PS, collecting all of the resources is fun to do, but the slowest in terms of dungeon xp/hr. And the xp you get from those resources is pitifully small. So I would only get what is necessary to finish the dungeon, not clear it out.

Yup, as for the reason why because once you reset, you prestige gets locked into the number of floors you have completed. Example you can go to floor 20, you do 1-20 then reset your prestige will be 20, and will apply floor 20 prestige(~2-4k xp small) on all floors, until you do 21 floors then it will increase again, then your pres turns to 21 floors, 22, 23 etc. If you only do 15-20 your prestige will be 5 floors (~500 xp) and the game will apply this prestige until you do 6 floors.

same floors would be best, but I still think it is interesting that the floor xp through 5 floors goes up quite linearly. Hmm I was planning on ranging for a bit longer.... but oh well reset and go go go! =] edit, did 14-16, the xp for all three was the same as round 1. The room count for 14 and 16 were different, 10/12 and 14/11 respectively.

I would have to disagree on that. I thought so too, but now I am in the, both are based on % of open doors/total doors of that specific dungeon, camp. On floor 1 every time it was a 100%'er and I killed everything I have gotten 57 xp, and around 2803 pres xp. Also just recently I did pay attention to how many total rooms there were, example floor 5 16 rooms was less xp than floor 6 12. There is always human error so next time you solo, keep track =] I will once again when I go through my next batch. edit numbers added 14-18 all 100% everything except dinos killed. no extra things done. floor, rooms, base, pres 14, 10, 547, 2876 15, 14, 611, 2884 16, 14, 679, 2892 17, 12, 752, 2901 18, 14, 829, 2909 differences 14-15 64 15-16 68 16-17 73 17-18 77

ah, yeah I just did a comp 4, and there are no bonus rooms, so that would also kill the room count. Thanks for the info. And I think comp 5 adds in the member skills, so no dice; Oh wel.

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could have been, but if I am reading the dates correctly march 2010 seems too recent. Aha a bit out of date =p http://forum.tip.it/topic/194709-how-many-songs-are-possible-in-f2p/ not really applicable anymore.

Hmm songs it is tricky I will try to break it up into tiers Tier 1 current fresh off the block f2per t2 holiday event songs(not terribly sure if they are like emotes; become unlocked after more previous events) t3 has songs from the now p2p quests myths of white lands and swept away t4 has glitched member songs again not sure how or why, but this number is now about 222(after dungeoneering). Sorry I don't know the exact numbers for the other tiers. I am at 217, I know there was a discussion about f2p songs somewhere.....

Yeah after the pathing update that spot got a little gimped. Standing between the doors should work, I would run to the spot, then run out, surf the forums/internet for 10-15 mins, then run back in. If an ankou attacked you and is waiting outside the door you will have to logout first, then enter. Another option I have no idea if it would work, would be to arch the ankous inside the wilderness volcano, there are a lot of 'small' safespots, so it is kinda tricky, and I do not know if they drop the scepter skull.

ack zaaps's guide's pictures went bad. http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=stronghold_of_security_map.htm for the map of the dungeon, I think you want level 4, the room is not the southeast room, but the one west of it, so directly south, has a yellow and green dot. The safe spot is fairly obvious, 2 steps from the door there is an outcrop of bone, hide behind it =] If you have trouble leave your rsn, and add me; worm brain and I can show it to you.

Ehh, it is probably possible, like the above stated you will need to range safespot to get the other two pieces. There is a famous ankou spot found in many range guides on this forum and on tip.it's main page. Cattlepons may be a tad trickier to find a safespot, but again it is doable. You may have to wait for them to be un-aggressive before you start ranging, both the ankou and cattles, just wait out behind the doors for awhile.

Kinda hard to put that tag at any specific time in RS; so I will say the golden days were when RS had reached it's max population. I used to remember seeing over 200k people on during the weekends, so whenever that was. I think recently we have been hovering in the 150k? range.

If you want to use the RC gloves from FoG then I would get one of each(because you can not have 2x gloves :( ) then using tele tabs from GoP proceed to use the air gloves followed by the water then finally earths(that order because earth altar is closest to fog place), then grab a new set of three and repeat the process, all while teleporting back to falador. A slightly better(imo) method is to only use water gloves, teleing both ways, and to use earth altar teleport to get a new pair of gloves. This is due to waters being the best profit. And when you tele both ways waters are faster xp than earths.

Post update I have no idea on the first. On the second I would avoid the wilderness spot, it has a vampire spawn within attack range, it is also visited by quite a few other revs, and IMO it just is not worth the hassle of getting them stuck, then hopping worlds.

sorry to backtrack, but back to the arrows, has anyone recently been at the wilderness arrow spawn? Just wondering what the arrows/hr is, it has been awhile since I have last been there. My gut tells me you could make more gp in that hour and buy more iron arrows than collect bronze.

I always like it when Jagex shows us how some of the behind the scenes actions work. So, I assume F2P also has a rare drop table? Only gems and the 'no drop'? Interestingly I did a drop log for roaches(~1k) and the 'no drop' was equal to the total gem drop well 41-42. I wonder if that ratio would be the same for the other monsters... Well there is my next adventure!