This is the General Discussion forum old chap. But OT: I think it won't be F2P, as I think this cape will get decent stats which will be to high for F2Pers). not much to discuss, 99 capes are p2p so why would these be any different? Because these are a different kind of capes, and afterall, they do let F2Pers vote for the design of the cape and why would they do that if it's going to be P2P anyways. We got to vote on the drag scim redux, so shrug either way. Some months back during one of the Q&A, wasn't there a mention of some new items of achievement? ah, was posted June 14thish, but I have no idea which Q&A it was.