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I like that Jagex is taking another active stance, rather than the reactive one we have been getting for the past while. I have no doubt the the bots will be back within 4 months, but at least it is a small damper; and may cause some sites to go down.

how do you guys deal with being attacked by some of the much stronger revs while attacking your targets? Depends on the rev, sometimes you can run behind a wall, and if the rev can not get to you it may tele to the other side. This works great with the warewolf(I think) and definitely with the south golbin. You can also use the sling to lure a rev, a good target is the vampire to get her away from the hellhound. And if a high level does attack I simply run away. how long does a trip typically last? 30-45mins does a rev focus entirely on one person who tanks, or does it alternate between team members? They mainly attack one person, you can use this to the teams advantage; try to stick a rev on a wall to let your teamies get in free hits. what gear do you guys use...what pray do you use? G2h and dragon hide. I would like to see if pray flashing promage and in full rune would be 'better' but requires too much clicking. Also curious as to what the theory is in regard to whether stronger revenants have the good statue and corrupt drops more frequently, though there prob isn't data on that yet. I think that higher levels have a greater chance of dropping things, no idea on the quality of the drops.

Hellhound both heals a ton, and has a strong magic attack, I would avoid him with anything fewer than 4 people. I like hunting with 3 or more people, 2 is too many for the southies, but too few for the north west crowd. Also with more than one person to make sure everyone swings at the same time, designate someone as the base swinger(not the person who is the rev magnet) and have everyone else match to that person's hits. Best stat i have gotten i think was the zammy one from darkbeast 500k.

Oh on slaying a dragon, should be possible, would be an interesting fight. I was figuring on him training on the rats lvl 9? or the ghosts one floor up.

Another option is to get the qp required for dragon slayer. I am pretty sure the monsters inside melzars maze give full xp, they just do not drop anything of value. Just make sure you look at the quest rewards to not mess up your pure. Also helps to join a clan to gain access to clan camp teleport via vexilum. It has been an extremely long time since I have been there, but I think the monsters inside are aggressive. Just collect enough keys to hop floors and backtrack. Again not 100% sure if that is possible. For food either buy loads of trout/salmon, they are probably quite a bit more efficient then cooking and eating the rat meat.

Wouldn't a lower nature rune price, create lower prices for the commonly alched items? Shoudln't alched items rise to fill the new gap? Their alch value remains constant. Right, I was thinking about it wrong =[

Wouldn't a lower nature rune price, create lower prices for the commonly alched items?

Bleh at the nature rune thing, just when I stocked up. Oh well. I wonder at what price they will stabilize.

Inflation is still happening, look at the prices of rares; but as others have said the bots have made the price of any raw resource plummet. Bones at 78? they should have been about 100 each 2 years ago. in f2p 12mil should be able to get you to the usable ceiling of the f2p buyables except smithing.

I was watching a pmod nuke auto typers in lummy

Ah ok scratch that one. It is just that she has been out for 3-4 years, thought she may have gotten outdated, in terms of drops I supose, but not difficulty.

Are the KQ, mole, or KBD now considered bosses for lower levels?

I really like the game dominion, so when i first saw it that is what I thought. Back-back please buy members months, at least this one is not as permanent as the loyalty stall in varrok center.

And you were keying in f2p? which is drastically different from p2p. There was a reason for that xp nerf(not a great reason, but still a reason). Misaki got a 10 minute with 4 randoms once, but never with me :( Really the only REAL difference is the fact that you can't pot doors and there are paths involving member skills, which is the main reason f2p gets "faster" floors on average. If it is possible for f2p to be able to do fulls all the time (no pot/member doors), it would definitely have slower times than p2p. - lack of a shadow silk hood - tier 5 items, NO rings - magic/range underpowered (look at the hexhunter/CCS in p2p and compare it with fire blast/spine bow...) - limited prayers - dusk eel (70 lp) as opposed to salve eel (200 lp) - armor being completely useless, fractite platebody is probably the most overrated bind... - lack of agility, familiars, pots, etc. And does the higher average monster level offset some/all of those? With a fully outfitted team I agree that p2p would be quicker than a fully outfitted f2p team. But I am talking about random teams, I have never been in an over 1:15 dungeon in f2p; but from the posts here it seems like a common occurrence in p2p. Maybe it comes from the being shut off of 1/4 of the dungeon, maybe it is the generally weaker enemies, I dunno.

And you were keying in f2p? which is drastically different from p2p. There was a reason for that xp nerf(not a great reason, but still a reason).

Seems like a communication issue, when i key'ed(very infrequently) I would ask the team whether they wanted a rush, or the slow roll through. This brought the team on same page; and I was always content with doing either.

Sorta; in the sleeping bag era I believe it was 'coldfeet' Where you signed up for an irc like account. In order to use the system each user had to type the words for people who were botting. I want to say it was a 1 for 1 type of deal, type out 5 words for other people, and while you were botting you had 5 words worth of credit.

1 input = 1 output is the one way it is legal. The only exception to this is the + key which is a double click. I would still stay away from the double click + key, it would give you a consistent even timestap of clicks, which may look like a script.

Free muny from your crazy high money making methods. Or kill as many giants as you can, and of course banking those super precious big bones. The gap between p2p and f2p is always getting larger, at this point they are basically isolated cosmoses. The offer is appreciated, but I do not think there is anything that can be done =[ Ah I thought of something, not a jab at any one person especially not you. Attitude change would be most pleasant if p2p as a whole stopped feeling entitled to every bit of content that comes rolling along, and if they stopped feeling 'cheated' 'scammed' when f2p gets thrown a bone that would generally be viewed as great!

A bit sad to see beacher get the ban hammer, she was such a nice mannered person, quite bubbly.

Daemonheim resource works quite well for banking and getting back. And if you cruise the f2p general discussion topic, in general discussion. There was a user to low alched/ click, drop, click to get a possibly higher xp rate.

If I remember correctly and it has been some time. Did Jagex basically do the same thing when they first removed tips gold status? I think it was a news post item saying tips support has been removed due to "hacking ads" or was it because of the mass hack of......

The last bonus weekend Jagex dubbed 'extended' how does that one compare with this one?

My problem with trying during fog was most of my fights were against bots or under lvl 60'ers. So when the decent match cameup I was already tanking in the middle. It is hard for me to go all out when I do not think the opponent will as well.

On the armor issue, I started dungeonating with my pure 77 combat 40 def. I was surprised to see the monsters were roughly the same level as when I dungeonate with worm. I was even more surprised that I had to stop and fish for food multiple times per small frozen dungeon. Now quite a bit of the damage was inefficient dungeoneering, but until you get to be more efficient then imo the plate will save you time requiring less downtime.