orodr3th Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Great article. =D> I started playing rs a bit over two years ago. (Heard about it from a friend a couple years before that and forgot haha). Even just two years ago when I had started, it had the feel of a smaller game. I played on the Philadelphia server and it wasn't uncommon to run into people you met before. There were rarely more than 1,000 people on the server at peak times and most of all people were nice. Ok, so enough rambling about what it used to be like. It does seem as though runescape has been slowly degrading. Still, as a mid-level player the prospect of going back to members and wearing black dhide and a quest cape keeps me playing. But even that won't keep me for long if things progress at the current rate. Cieco mondo...cieco mondo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Devoted12- Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Pretty good article Editor. Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 My observation on the article: - Jagex decision to focus more on younger players was made longer ago and has in fact been a good decission as that market was/is less saturated than that of older players. When focussing on the older players they'd have to compete more with other leading games, like WoW, where the average player age is generally much higher. - I wonder what the Editor bases his statement that the online games market is starting to become saturated on.. All academic research I have read on it still refers to it as exponentially growing. Claiming such things without sources is rather amateuristic considering the topic IMO. - Between the lines, the Editor seems to vent 'frustration' against the younger players 'ruining it all' in the game. Always popular to do that eh? :roll: - Considering Jagex is already working on new games I somewhat doubt that Andrew and Paul would 'need' to move away from Jagex in order to start something new. Whether they'll leave the company (read: sell it) or not probably depends mostly on whether they can still see substantial growth for Jagex in the future though. The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudy80 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 My observation on the article: - Jagex decision to focus more on younger players was made longer ago and has in fact been a good decission as that market was/is less saturated than that of older players. When focussing on the older players they'd have to compete more with other leading games, like WoW, where the average player age is generally much higher. - I wonder what the Editor bases his statement that the online games market is starting to become saturated on.. All academic research I have read on it still refers to it as exponentially growing. Claiming such things without sources is rather amateuristic considering the topic IMO. - Between the lines, the Editor seems to vent 'frustration' against the younger players 'ruining it all' in the game. Always popular to do that eh? :roll: - Considering Jagex is already working on new games I somewhat doubt that Andrew and Paul would 'need' to move away from Jagex in order to start something new. Whether they'll leave the company (read: sell it) or not probably depends mostly on whether they can still see substantial growth for Jagex in the future though. I think what he means by saturated is that theres tons of different MMOs out there now, Its really impossible for a player to be devoted to more then one or two at a time so it comes down to whoever gets a players attention first and sadly the bigger name MMOs have the edge. I know runescapes popular, but games you can buy in a store tend to be more advertised. I still would say that runescapes best way of getting new members is good old word of mouth. Thanks for the sig Rose!My blog to 99 slayer: Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshadow Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Younger players typically have less money to spend and more parental control over how it is spent. ... While a 15 or 16 year old might still be playing the game at 18 when they can get their first credit card and pay for the game themselves... This little section of the article really fit me. It seems that running a game business is pretty hard thing to do. If you focus too much on the business, the game can get left behind. If you don't support the business, the game dies. Seems Jagex has to find the middle ground where both are satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I think what he means by saturated is that theres tons of different MMOs out there now Considering he talks about the market size and compares it to pc/internet bubble of 2001 I'm fairly sure that he means that the market is saturated in that it is no longer growing as a whole and as far as I know that is not the case at all. The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudy80 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I think what he means by saturated is that theres tons of different MMOs out there now Considering he talks about the market size and compares it to pc/internet bubble of 2001 I'm fairly sure that he means that the market is saturated in that it is no longer growing as a whole and as far as I know that is not the case at all. You got me there, but i think hes referring more to a player saturation then a game saturation now that i look at it. I do get your point on the number of games, there tons. Overall though the player base may be coming from people switching MMOs. Like i said about whoever can grab the players attention first. I may still be missing something, but i think it was more of a spurt of the moment thing then a well researched statistic. Thanks for the sig Rose!My blog to 99 slayer: Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimx9061 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I enjoyed this article, however, what if the founding brothers have matured into corporate minded people? Would this be unique for an online game with quite humble beginings? 5,574th to 99 Range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennischamp5 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I totally agree with the article. rs has been slowly becoming more geared towards a younger audience. i hope andrew does start a new game. and hopefully that game doesnt become like how rs has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptinObvious Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 from what i understood from the article is that you're explaining the predicament that Jagex, Runescape, Andrew and Paul (i say Andrew and Paul separetly because who knows what might happen one day) are in. Runescape has a probleme because it was aimed at the older audiences. But the little kids thought they could play too... well? can they? yes they can not much to stop them except getting annoied on their first day of playing because they can't find the range in the tutorial or diing because they trust a play that's name is "i owned u31". Jagex has a problem of what to do. Should it go back to being selective? and how? it has a sub-par age prevention system, how do you filter out hundreds of kids that want to play? Should it continue with the younger age group that can't/won't pay 5$ a month for the game, if Jagex does do that then how will it get its revenue? Andrew/Paul are in sort of the same predicament that Jagex is in. Make the game more "sirious" but people won't P2P. Or keep the game more or less the way it is (im kinda wanting a skill less weird the "farming" come on. Andrew, Paul can you do better then farming?) I'M NOT AN ALCHAHOLIC I'M A DRUNK! alchaholics go to meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpulsiveJet Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 well i sure hope jagex can find a way to balance the target audience age...between 13 and 20 would be nice....not that i want to leave any1 outside those ranges out If you read the information they give you when you start the game Jagex says, "If you are under 13 years old, you must not create an account. We don't knowingly permit anyone under 13 to use this website. " Meaning that they're already not trying to openly get anyone under 13 to play. And I don't think there's an issue with 20+ so I don't see why you'd want it limited to in between 13 and 20. Well I pretty much only was trying to point out that I think Jagex intended audience is already 13+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfay Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 wow somones a smarty pants i agree with most of that... if not all of that so i dont have much to say except that your did you know has been pretty lame since you rereleased it i havnt learnt anything =\ edit: although with the age thing im 14 and believe i could be quite easily mature enough for the early 20s aim of the game so it depends on the person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpulsiveJet Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 wow somones a smarty pants Don't think mature is the right word to describe yourself. :roll: i dont have much to say except that your did you know has been pretty lame since you rereleased it i havnt learnt anything =\ Huh? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfay Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 lol i wasnt being serious : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman45 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Nice article! :thumbsup: :wink: It's all true, Jagex has to make up their mind.... :XD: :mrgreen: Can't wait till next weeks :shock: , it's always enjoyable whist reading what you've written! Keep it up! :P Retired as of August 23rd with 91 Firemaking and 6m xp in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfay Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 wow somones a smarty pants Don't think mature is the right word to describe yourself. :roll: i dont have much to say except that your did you know has been pretty lame since you rereleased it i havnt learnt anything =\ Huh? :? what do you mean huh? :-s the did you know thing is lame i never learn anything there all basic facts :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpulsiveJet Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 wow somones a smarty pants Don't think mature is the right word to describe yourself. :roll: i dont have much to say except that your did you know has been pretty lame since you rereleased it i havnt learnt anything =\ Huh? :? what do you mean huh? :-s the did you know thing is lame i never learn anything there all basic facts :roll: Ahhh.... I seemed to have skipped over that part and was just reading it completely the wrong way :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Even if RuneScape does become geared toward younger players I would continue to play since I find RuneScape fun and just because there are younger players or people I disagree with at the helm of jagex doesnt mean I cant still enjoy playing the game. By the way, I have been playing since May 2004, can't honestly say I'm bored/frustrated with RuneScape or Jagex. With love to one, friendship to many, and good will to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfay Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Even if RuneScape does become geared toward younger players I would continue to play since I find RuneScape fun and just because there are younger players or people I disagree with at the helm of jagex doesnt mean I cant still enjoy playing the game. By the way, I have been playing since May 2004, can't honestly say I'm bored/frustrated with RuneScape or Jagex. =D> well said, i second that motion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbysanta Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 First of all move the first post-he is clearly a moron. I found the topic quite disturbing to say the least and maybe Andrew and Paul will move on to a new game. There marketing structure has altered allowing other companies to buy out jagex in a "vulnerable" position, and then set it back on course. Or its like the dot com bust and when runescape looked great around christmas in a quick 3 months its sunk and jagex need to make some quick decisions. I Quit. You should too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbysanta Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Score one for the Editor. The point is made. Lol swampjedi,kiara and myself only understand it seems lol. Again proving that its 12-13 yr olds with no atention span at all. Lucky I did level 4 commerce I Quit. You should too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priviate Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Very nice article, i understand the point you are making.... sorta scary to think the game we've played and worked hard on might convert to a totally different thing under new managment.. P.S you who say its just mumbo jumbo, do business ed :P P.P.S Who said you need lvl 4 comerce to understand that? Reader of Fourms; not posterhttp://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... aq6ra7.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 yah i agree the decisions in the next few months will decide where it goes..i personally hope it aims in the 14-23 range...........cause i don't like a bunch of childish updates and be embarassed to tell my friends i accually play runescape alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tewas Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Gratz to editor for awesome article. I think jagex is going towards young kids even tho they do not tell that. Honestly most of 13+ year olds already know how dangerous internet is and how to protect from it. Last few rule changes showed that jagex wants to babysit players, and the only ones that needs that is young and immature. I loved this game until they start telling me how to play and i might start looking for another game where i have some freedom to make my own choices even if it would be a bad decision. 1500+ total 89 cmb; 1600+ total and under 93 cmb. 02/04/07 reached all skills 60+ under lvl 90 cmb. 07/19/07 reached all skills 70+ at lvl 93 cmb.Prayer is good for herbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apyroweasel Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Once again, a well-written and deep article. Thanks, The Editor! P.S. The 'Did you know...' sections of the weekly Times is a great addition! Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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