Should F2P get skill capes?

[GrimHams]

Yeah, jagex gives you those and it'll be the same thing with something else. "we have bank space..now what about *insert demand*. Jagex are best off not giving anything instead of giving a bit then f2p wanting even more.

 

Yeah because the party room can't be associated with bank space..unless you say "well i got a load of items from the party room but can't fit them in my bank! I DEMAND an update jagex!" - damn i might be giving the ingrate2p players a new angle. :roll:

 

I highly doubt that. Do you have anything better than baseless assumptions?

 

 

 

You wonder why jagex haven't given you free bank space? because they know what people are like and if they're given free bank space jagex are worried f2pers will expect more. Thats the fact, so it isn't "baseless".

 

 

 

Ingrates?? You can't possibly be serious, or you could possibly be horridly stubborn and ignorant. We are always grateful for every update we get... The SOS, Party Pete's, and Clan Chat... And now the player kit option. You want to talk about ingrates? How about every other quest, I see people in the rant forums or recent update forums (on the official rs forums) saying "boring, it sucked!!! JAGEX IM PAYING MONEY DAMMIT!!!" Care to explain that? We are grateful for our updates because they don't come often. Members were out infront of the party hall protesting it's move, acting like they will never be able to use the party hall again. Now don't go assuming that I'm insulting every single member. There are several members who learn to respect f2p, because they aren't overwhelmed by their own ego. I see people like you all the time in edgeville, strutting around in an f2p world like you're a king. We don't have updates to make us spoiled, you on the other hand...

 

 

 

First off use paragraphs, it annoys me having to trawl through a massive block of text. The word that has been used by many of these f2p bank space "protesters" is "deserve", thats why i dont think f2p should get the update, they dont DESERVE anything. I'd have no problem with updates for f2p if a bunch of ingrateful people didnt demand jagex update the game for them.

 

 

 

I see people arranging protests on runescape and that sickens me, members riots do as well dont get me wrong but its not like jagex have taken away bank space from you in the first place, f2pers are trying to get too big for their boots and go on as if they have the right to force jagex into updating the game for them.

 

 

 

I don't think im any better than f2p, i've even said members don't "deserve" updates because members buy the month of game for the benefits at that time, they have no right to demand jagex update the game all the time. I'm not spoilt either, i have never been a person who has rioted so don't tell me what i do. You said members are spoilt? well in that case f2pers are jealous.

 

 

 

Before you assume im a pro member who thinks members deserve anything i'm not, i dont think anyone is deserved of updates and don't go along as if f2p is hard-done-by because you get it better than nearly every other mmorpg.

[Tetsuya]

You wonder why jagex haven't given you free bank space? because they know what people are like and if they're given free bank space jagex are worried f2pers will expect more. Thats the fact, so it isn't "baseless".

 

Let me guess..... You work for Jagex?

[pikachu54673]

I think they should get them. I know a certain f2p'er that worked thier you-know-what off to get 99 Smithing, and now has noway of showing it. If they put all this work into the game, they should at least get something to show it even if hey DON'T pay for it.

[The Observer]

If an f2per is dedicated enough to runescape to get a 99 in a skill surely they can put 4.50 into the game that they obviously enjoy to get an item. Let me get this right, you f2pers want more bank space AND skill capes? heck why don't we just make everything in members thats useful f2p! then you'd be happy because you'd get the same stuff as us members without paying the bone crunching 4.50 a month.

Achievement capes and some bank space. That is a mere 2 things... You're really blowing it out of proportion.

 

 

 

Yeah, jagex gives you those and it'll be the same thing with something else. "we have bank space..now what about *insert demand*. Jagex are best off not giving anything instead of giving a bit then f2p wanting even more.

 

 

 

We didn't want Party Petes. We didn't campaign for clan chat. We just want two things. Surely, they can spare two things over a couple of months. Jeez, paying for a game doesn't make you any superior to anybody else.

[AznSteve]

Anyone who manages to get a 99 as a free player knows very well that skill capes are members only items. A person obtaining a 99 while remaining a free player confirms the fact that he has willingly forfeited his ability to wear the skill cape.

[Mountdoom77]

I'd take 10 bankspaces over skillcapes anyday.

[NJE03]

Anyone who manages to get a 99 as a free player knows very well that skill capes are members only items. A person obtaining a 99 while remaining a free player confirms the fact that he has willingly forfeited his ability to wear the skill cape.

I got 99 woodcutting and firemaking before the capes existed. I never imagined when I read about them in behind the scenes that they would be only for members. Since it said any player with 99 skill could get it I assumed that included EVERYONE.

 

 

 

So no. Not everyone knew this.

[wild_goat_14]

I think F2p should get 10-15 more bank spaces, but I am almost positive they will never have Skill Capes. And I think the complaining by all of the f2pers makes your chance even less. Heres why.

 

 

 

They make some items P2p to rub it in the f2pers faces. They see Skill Capes as an incentive for people to get members. Now if free to play begs for capes will they get them? No! Because this makes them want the capes more, and some people are willing to pay the $5 to get it, and thats exactly why Jagex won't make it f2p, just for money.

[Jackstick]

I think F2p should get 10-15 more bank spaces, but I am almost positive they will never have Skill Capes. And I think the complaining by all of the f2pers makes your chance even less. Heres why.

 

 

 

They make some items P2p to rub it in the f2pers faces. They see Skill Capes as an incentive for people to get members. Now if free to play begs for capes will they get them? No! Because this makes them want the capes more, and some people are willing to pay the $5 to get it, and thats exactly why Jagex won't make it f2p, just for money.

 

 

 

This man speaks the truth.

[nightwolf06]

Wild goat is right on the money there.

 

 

 

As much as it'd be nice for f2pers to get some extra bank space and a nice shiny cape for them to wear.

 

 

 

jagex just won't do it, they won't give them too much for the plain simple fact they want to convert them to members.

[RussianMofian]

As many ways as you could look at it, it all boils down to this: Jagex cares about MONEY!

 

 

 

They probably don't care if a few of their f2p'ers complain about something. After all, who cares about f2p? (Please note the sarcasm on this part, don't flame me)

 

 

 

I know Jackstick ingame in a way (OT: OoC ftw) and I should know he DESERVES a skill cape. Not only him, but ALL f2p'ers!!

 

 

 

I'm not exactly sure at Jagex's view of it, but when they made stuff like the f2p only polls...they probably just made it to stop their complaining. They probably didn't make it because they care about what they think (except the questions they asked about having past membership)

 

 

 

I have been a f2p'er in RuneScape for over 2 years, only these past 3 months I have been fortunate enough to become a member.

 

My sympathy goes to the f2p'ers who will think I betrayed them.

[Mithril_Max]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

[hybrid2hell]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

 

 

 

why do

 

 

 

you talk

 

 

 

with so many

 

 

 

breaks in

 

 

 

your sentences

 

 

 

its really hard

 

 

 

to read

 

 

 

 

 

Next time try to add some input that actually makes sense.

 

 

 

To many members reading this, i just want you to know that us f2pers here on tip.it are aware that "f2p is immature" and that "most f2pers buy money off of the internet." and that "there are too many macros in f2p." But that certainly doesnt mean that all of them do. Especially the ones with 99s. Just imagine, you work very hard for a certain 99 skill (Woodcutting for example). You walk around wishing you had a way to show it. Then, some random person asks you the question.

 

 

 

them: "Wc lvl?"

 

you: 99

 

them: zomg noob lyer u r dum"

 

 

 

Im sure many of our f2pers with 99s here (Nje, jackstick, ect) have this happen to them a lot (tell me if im wrong) I would find it very annoying, and i would wish that i had a way to prove it other than saying "look me up, im not lying." Because 9/10 people will not go to look you up.

[Mithril_Max]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

 

 

 

why do

 

 

 

you talk

 

 

 

with so many

 

 

 

breaks in

 

 

 

your sentences

 

 

 

its really hard

 

 

 

to read

 

 

 

 

 

Next time try to add some input that actually makes sense.

 

 

 

To many members reading this, i just want you to know that us f2pers here on tip.it are aware that "f2p is immature" and that "most f2pers buy money off of the internet." and that "there are too many macros in f2p." But that certainly doesnt mean that all of them do. Especially the ones with 99s. Just imagine, you work very hard for a certain 99 skill (Woodcutting for example). You walk around wishing you had a way to show it. Then, some random person asks you the question.

 

 

 

them: "Wc lvl?"

 

you: 99

 

them: zomg noob lyer u r dum"

 

 

 

Im sure many of our f2pers with 99s here (Nje, jackstick, ect) have this happen to them a lot (tell me if im wrong) I would find it very annoying, and i would wish that i had a way to prove it other than saying "look me up, im not lying." Because 9/10 people will not go to look you up.

 

 

 

because i was making it look like 2 people talking, now to flame you in the same way you failed at flaming me

 

 

 

you think that

 

 

 

this makes you

 

 

 

look intelligent

 

 

 

but really

 

 

 

your a moron

[ChickyBee32]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

 

 

 

why do

 

 

 

you talk

 

 

 

with so many

 

 

 

breaks in

 

 

 

your sentences

 

 

 

its really hard

 

 

 

to read

 

 

 

 

 

Next time try to add some input that actually makes sense.

 

 

 

To many members reading this, i just want you to know that us f2pers here on tip.it are aware that "f2p is immature" and that "most f2pers buy money off of the internet." and that "there are too many macros in f2p." But that certainly doesnt mean that all of them do. Especially the ones with 99s. Just imagine, you work very hard for a certain 99 skill (Woodcutting for example). You walk around wishing you had a way to show it. Then, some random person asks you the question.

 

 

 

them: "Wc lvl?"

 

you: 99

 

them: zomg noob lyer u r dum"

 

 

 

Im sure many of our f2pers with 99s here (Nje, jackstick, ect) have this happen to them a lot (tell me if im wrong) I would find it very annoying, and i would wish that i had a way to prove it other than saying "look me up, im not lying." Because 9/10 people will not go to look you up.

 

 

 

because i was making it look like 2 people talking, now to flame you in the same way you failed at flaming me

 

 

 

you think that

 

 

 

this makes you

 

 

 

look intelligent

 

 

 

but really

 

 

 

your a moron

 

 

 

 

 

Excellent. I'm glad we're agreed on this basic point - you're a moron.

[NJE03]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

 

The fact is, members would still have their capes. They would lose nothing.

 

 

 

 

because i was making it look like 2 people talking, now to flame you in the same way you failed at flaming me

 

 

 

you think that

 

 

 

this makes you

 

 

 

look intelligent

 

 

 

but really

 

 

 

your a moron

 

Oh yes, you are smart and everyone else is moron. -.-

 

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Resorting to name calling I see... nice. :roll:

[NickCini]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

 

 

 

You make me ashamed to be p2p with you.

 

 

 

I spent my first two years and a bit in rs (starting sep 2001) as f2p.

 

 

 

The fact that f2p didn't get skill capes is ludicrous. They are afterall capes designed to recognise achievement, not achievement and a monthly fee

 

 

 

In short, it's rather disgusting and f2p'ers totally deserve capes as much as anybody else. The fact that I pay ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 a month doesn't make me any better than a f2p'er.

 

 

 

Most p2p'ers see themselves as above f2p'ers because they (or often their parents) pay that small fee. All that does is mean we gain access to more features. We all all equal as players.

[Mithril_Max]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

 

 

 

You make me ashamed to be p2p with you.

 

 

 

I spent my first two years and a bit in rs (starting sep 2001) as f2p.

 

 

 

The fact that f2p didn't get skill capes is ludicrous. They are afterall capes designed to recognise achievement, not achievement and a monthly fee

 

 

 

In short, it's rather disgusting and f2p'ers totally deserve capes as much as anybody else. The fact that I pay ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 a month doesn't make me any better than a f2p'er.

 

 

 

Most p2p'ers see themselves as above f2p'ers because they (or often their parents) pay that small fee. All that does is mean we gain access to more features. We all all equal as players.

 

 

 

i didnt say we werent equal as players I said that they dont pay for it so technically they dont deserve it, regardless of what we think, or they think, or zezima/n0valyfe/casserole thinks its up to jagex and they dont think they deserve it

[Mithril_Max]

they shouldnt

 

 

 

why?

 

 

 

they dont pay

 

 

 

so! we deserve it!

 

 

 

too bad

 

 

 

thats not fair!

 

 

 

not my problem

 

The fact is, members would still have their capes. They would lose nothing.

 

 

 

 

because i was making it look like 2 people talking, now to flame you in the same way you failed at flaming me

 

 

 

you think that

 

 

 

this makes you

 

 

 

look intelligent

 

 

 

but really

 

 

 

your a moron

 

Oh yes, you are smart and everyone else is moron. -.-

 

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Resorting to name calling I see... nice. :roll:

 

 

 

where did i say that members wouldnt keep the capes? oh and just because you think you can make a clever comment doesnt mean your making your point anymore valid, i suggest you keep on topic and stop worrying about some posts that dont affect you in the least.

[Mithr4ndir]

I honestly don't see how it would hurt. I mean, they work just as hard as us members do for the 13M experience. If a simple update like this causes people to freak out... well then I'll know what I need to know about the RuneScape community. That being said, I don't think it will ever happen.

[nightwolf06]

If anything f2p should get them more than P2P should purely because it takes MORE effort to obtain an 99 in f2p than it does in p2p.

 

 

 

But it also means that they only get some of the skill capes and not all..

 

 

 

What happens if a p2p gets a slayer cape and then has to resort back to f2p?

 

 

 

Does that cape become a members item or is it available to use in f2p?

 

 

 

:-#

[Kevin_]

No, F2P is basicly a demo of P2P, you should already be pleased that you get holiday drops and another random thing once in a while ;).

[ChickyBee32]

No, F2P is basicly a demo of P2P, you should already be pleased that you get holiday drops and another random thing once in a while ;).

 

 

 

I would say that P2P is the expansion pack of F2P.

[Babyshambles]

No they don't deserve them. If you don't pay why should you get anything? And to be honest, I think F2P were lucky to get the SoS update.

[unkn0wnwarrior]

No they don't deserve them. If you don't pay why should you get anything? And to be honest, I think F2P were lucky to get the SoS update.

The SoS was to increase knowledge of account security... If anybody needed it, it was F2P...