Should F2P get skill capes?

[Woodcutting99]

No, I don't think so because of macros. Within a month each f2p skill would have like 10,000+ 99s in the game... that just wouldn't be right. And I mean we pay $5 a month and skill capes are one of the main things to be and many other players who don't play for party hats. :roll:

[Juhnie]

No, I don't think so because of macros. Within a month each f2p skill would have like 10,000+ 99s in the game...

F2P gets Skillcapes -> people start macroing?

 

... :lol:

... :mellow:

... :huh:

[Tiffanyy]

Well, honestly in my opinion, I don't think that f2p should be allowed to get skill capes. However, if they have been a member at least one time and managed to get the skill cape during their membership time period, than perhaps they should allow them to be able to remove as well as weild the cape. After all, majority of the players in the game, become members to get their dream skills up to perhaps a 99 and achieve a cape. I do realize some people in f2p, try to do all the work in f2p as well. However, when it comes to in real life cash being used to make those "dreams" come true; its time to think about how the current and perhaps even previous members would feel about this. Being able to purchase a skill cape, in f2p would just make the game much more complicated since there as also non-member skills that require some type of P2P transportation to get there (eg. strength cape.) As I read, someone mentioned something about a teleport that takes you there, but soon the skill cape would be nothing but just junk eventually with a rise in players getting 99's, being able to raise your rank on highscores will be much more difficult to attain, etc.

[junkiejeff]

I agree that skill capes perhaps could be obtained in a members world and would also be a F2P item.

[Sutty]

Nope, Members pay Jagex for the extra content, F2P should be happy with what they get as they pay nothing at all :)

[unkn0wnwarrior]

Nope, Members pay Jagex for the extra content, F2P should be happy with what they get as they pay nothing at all :)

Since the capes were implemented as members only, I agree we shouldn't have them. But I think we should have gotten them from the start.

[wingwinder]

 

anyway you cant get skill capes most of them are in member worlds.

woodcutting,defence,runecrafting,hit points,crafting,mining,prayer,cooking,smithing

 

my point? More than half of the F2P skills have their masters in the F2P map, therefor your claim is invalid.

[Youmu]

Nope, Members pay Jagex for the extra content, F2P should be happy with what they get as they pay nothing at all :)

But F2Pers can get 99 stats on F2P worlds without going P2P at all.

 

Also, I'm not saying that F2P has to get skillcapes (as quick chat already does the job). I'm just saying it would be a nice addition for F2P, and so that skillcapes can be taken off/worn in F2P worlds as well.

[junkiejeff]

Of course it would be a nice addition, but this is debate club.

So now please come with a valid argument.

[Youmu]

Of course it would be a nice addition, but this is debate club.

So now please come with a valid argument.

If we take economics and all that crap out of the way, the only valid argument is that F2P should get skill capes.

 

A 99, regardless of F2P or P2P, is an achievement, and anyone deserves to show it off.

[Goalie]

Well if the question is deserve, of course they do. They have put just as much time and effort, usually more infact, so they deserve to wear the cape just like members do. Although the question is should they? Perhaps, but Skill Capes have turned into a huge part of the game, and I'm sure Jagex isn't interested in making one of their major members objects available for Free-Players, as they've probably made a lot of money from Free-Players in pursuit of mastering a skill.

[langer]

Of course it would be a nice addition, but this is debate club.

So now please come with a valid argument.

If we take economics and all that crap out of the way, the only valid argument is that F2P should get skill capes.

 

A 99, regardless of F2P or P2P, is an achievement, and anyone deserves to show it off.

 

I agree with 99% of what you said... the only part I disagree is the part about economics being crap. I have a feeling that it's a big part of why skillcapes are not F2P.

[Monkeyblazer]

It won't happen for sure....too many complications.

Such as how f2p players will get to the areas of which you buy the capes..

[unkn0wnwarrior]

It won't happen for sure....too many complications.

Such as how f2p players will get to the areas of which you buy the capes..

There have been a few suggestions for this problem. The 2 easiest would be:

 

1) Some kind of teleport available to those where the cape is outside the F2P map... The only thing you can do while there is talk to the one with the cape.

2) Move the 7 or so capes not located in the F2P map.

 

The only thing I can see that is stopping them is the economic standpoint, which I understand.

[wingwinder]

It won't happen for sure....too many complications.

Such as how f2p players will get to the areas of which you buy the capes..

There have been a few suggestions for this problem. The 2 easiest would be:

 

1) Some kind of teleport available to those where the cape is outside the F2P map... The only thing you can do while there is talk to the one with the cape.

2) Move the 7 or so capes not located in the F2P map.

 

The only thing I can see that is stopping them is the economic standpoint, which I understand.

 

You people over react! More than half the capes are in the F2P map!!

[AlexRose]

It won't happen for sure....too many complications.

Such as how f2p players will get to the areas of which you buy the capes..

There have been a few suggestions for this problem. The 2 easiest would be:

 

1) Some kind of teleport available to those where the cape is outside the F2P map... The only thing you can do while there is talk to the one with the cape.

2) Move the 7 or so capes not located in the F2P map.

 

The only thing I can see that is stopping them is the economic standpoint, which I understand.

 

Or we could just get the Lumbridge guide to give the F2P capes. No need to overcomplicate things.

 

In my opinion, F2p deserves the right to show off their 99s more so than their inability to pay for the game. For example, F2p does not "deserve" the rest of the game, because they lack the ability to support Jagex. However, that is an extreme example. That argument does not always work in specific cases, because even though F2P doesn't pay money, they still support Jagex by providing a base or "demo" to P2P and advertising money, and thus have some level of "deservement". I think in this case, they at least deserve the benefit of a complete game, and showing off your achievments would certainly be one of those things, among others (a balanced combat system). So please, please, PLEASE stop with the "F2p doesn't deserve it because they don't directly pay Jagex" argument. Honestly, I am so tired of hearing this argument, and this often being the only argument, in every thread that suggests that F2p should have something.

[junkiejeff]

Of course it would be a nice addition, but this is debate club.

So now please come with a valid argument.

If we take economics and all that crap out of the way, the only valid argument is that F2P should get skill capes.

 

A 99, regardless of F2P or P2P, is an achievement, and anyone deserves to show it off.

 

You just can't take out all the crap out of the way.

Furthermore, F2P should get skill capes is not a argument. Your sole argument is that it's an achievement and you deserve to show it off.

My argument is that Runescape is just a game and you don't deserve anything, because it's a game.

So nobody really deserves anything because the game is just like Jagex wants it to be.

You might WANT skill capes for F2P, but that's something completely different.

[AlexRose]

My argument is that Runescape is just a game and you don't deserve anything, because it's a game.

So nobody really deserves anything because the game is just like Jagex wants it to be.

You might WANT skill capes for F2P, but that's something completely different.

 

 

How are you aware of what Jagex wants of their game? If the game was exactly how Jagex wanted it to be, the why are we continously recieving updates? And yes, this entire debate is based off opinion, so are all other agruments; if they were fact, then what is there to debate? But we can still support our opinions, and if your supporting facts/ideas are strong enough, then your opinion is a completely a valid argument. You're essentially arguing that all opinions, editorials, and political thought are baseless, which is false.

[unkn0wnwarrior]

Or we could just get the Lumbridge guide to give the F2P capes. No need to overcomplicate things.

I think that was another said a few times. Not always the Lumbridge Guide, but there was always somebody suggested to hand them out. Although I would save that one for if we were to get something different.

 

You people over react! More than half the capes are in the F2P map!!

Not sure why you quoted me, there. I know that already, which is why I worded my post how I did.

[langer]

Honestly, I am so tired of hearing this argument, and this often being the only argument, in every thread that suggests that F2p should have someting

 

Sadly though this is a realistic argument. Another valid argument especially for skills cape is that Jagex might not want to give too much end game content to people that do not pay. End game content is an incentive to join members. I think it's a purely financial question and I see no wrong in that.

 

I don't understand why F2Pers... and P2Pers want skill capes that badly... it's a status symbol and should rot in every members bank when that player has a fire cape...

 

I know status is important to people who lack self confidence, but I didn't know RS players were lacking that much.

[Guest jrhairychest]

Honestly, I am so tired of hearing this argument, and this often being the only argument, in every thread that suggests that F2p should have someting

 

Sadly though this is a realistic argument. Another valid argument especially for skills cape is that Jagex might not want to give too much end game content to people that do not pay. End game content is an incentive to join members. I think it's a purely financial question and I see no wrong in that.

 

I don't understand why F2Pers... and P2Pers want skill capes that badly... it's a status symbol and should rot in every members bank when that player has a fire cape...

 

I know status is important to people who lack self confidence, but I didn't know RS players were lacking that much.

 

Well said. A line must be drawn somewhere. Jagex has to make its cash otherwise neither exists. If you get something for free, you take what you get and be happy with it, otherwise you either pay or leave and play something else. No-one forces F2P players to play so to sit and whinge 'I want more' is a little rude considering how much you get for paying nothing.

[madgasm]

1 word="no!"

 

 

 

dunno why, but thats why we pay 5$ per month =p

^This.^

[wcingisbad]

1 word="no!"

 

 

 

dunno why, but thats why we pay 5$ per month =p

^This.^

 

You mean you don't pay for more map space, monsters, quests, skills and items?

 

Lol

[AlexRose]

Honestly, I am so tired of hearing this argument, and this often being the only argument, in every thread that suggests that F2p should have someting

 

Sadly though this is a realistic argument. Another valid argument especially for skills cape is that Jagex might not want to give too much end game content to people that do not pay. End game content is an incentive to join members. I think it's a purely financial question and I see no wrong in that.

 

I don't understand why F2Pers... and P2Pers want skill capes that badly... it's a status symbol and should rot in every members bank when that player has a fire cape...

 

I know status is important to people who lack self confidence, but I didn't know RS players were lacking that much.

 

Well said. A line must be drawn somewhere. Jagex has to make its cash otherwise neither exists. If you get something for free, you take what you get and be happy with it, otherwise you either pay or leave and play something else. No-one forces F2P players to play so to sit and whinge 'I want more' is a little rude considering how much you get for paying nothing.

 

 

I somehow fail to see how skillcapes are a grand cash incentive for membership. If a F2per has decided to put in the time and effort neccesary for a level 99, I think that person has already made the decision whether to become a member or not. If anything, a skillcape would actually be an incentive to become a member, as membership would greatly reduce the difficulty of obtaining a 99.

 

Furthermore, skillcapes do not dramatically alter the course of the average F2per's playstyle. Sure, it may encourage a detrimined few to train their skills to 99, but as a whole skillcapes contribute no gameplay altering additions to the F2p universe. The way F2p train their skills to 99s remain the same, the vast, vast majority of a F2per's gameplay is unaltered.

[Youmu]

I somehow fail to see how skillcapes are a grand cash incentive for membership. If a F2per has decided to put in the time and effort neccesary for a level 99, I think that person has already made the decision whether to become a member or not. If anything, a skillcape would actually be an incentive to become a member, as membership would greatly reduce the difficulty of obtaining a 99.

 

Furthermore, skillcapes do not dramatically alter the course of the average F2per's playstyle. Sure, it may encourage a detrimined few to train their skills to 99, but as a whole skillcapes contribute no gameplay altering additions to the F2p universe. The way F2p train their skills to 99s remain the same, the vast, vast majority of a F2per's gameplay is unaltered.

In addition, if you just get membership for a skillcape... that's just sad. :mellow:

 

The reason why I don't go P2P is because I'm happy with the current F2P, simplicity. P2P is way too overly complicated for me to have a decent time there. :wacko:

 

And, for all you stubborn P2Pers, be more creative and not come up with the same lame excuse every time.

 

Also, keep in mind that if skillcapes are given to F2P, it benefits P2P, because you'll be able to take off/wear your skillcape in F2P worlds. Gosh, think before you guys spout out this "f2p dont pay zomgomg@@@" crap. <_<