Dogman112018 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Well, as all of you pkers know, a Wilderness Ditch has been created on Wednesday(4-18-07), and while some say this is a good idea, others say it is very bad. Personally, I think it's a good idea, because in some areas you can wander into the Wild without even knowing it until you were attacked. A lot of people say this is runining pking/rune crafting. Discuss your outlook on this topic please. No it is a terrible thing Also, Back up your statement with some logical reasoning, not just "No, It's dumb", or something along those lines. (Do Not flame other people's opinions if they are different from your own-that person is entitled to their opinion. Also, use proper english and grammar so that other people can understand you. Please, no leet speak!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstyle4 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Good. This way luring cannot realy happen anymore. I think this is one of the first good updates Jagex has made in a long time. IMG]http://sig.runeweb.net/sig/12/Superstyle4.png[/img]Xbox Live Username: ILINI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 It is most definitely good. Anybody who thinks it ruins pking doesn't know what true pking is about. Its not about killing people who don't want to fight... :shame: Its about killing those who want to fight. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 It's not going to stop luring completely. Those that are totally foolish enough to believe what a lurer says definitely deserves to be lured. Now they want Jagex to hold their hands and Jagex screwed up and in turn rcers suffer slightly :wall: Strangely with WotLK so near, I wished I could delay it a bit to push through that last TBC content in MH/BT :'(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 No it is a terrible thing I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdamo Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 No it is a terrible thing Lol it would be good to backup your point mate :-w Anyway, I think its a good thing. It'll almost fully prevent luring unless you are really stupid enough to still get lured into the wildy with a big ditch there hehe #-o. But yes, good idea. Some rc'ers might not agree though :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisensei808 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. It is still in the momentum of the game. I don't fully understand the rants I have read about it. I am more concerned about another topic, that obviously, is not on Tip.....perhaps I shall start a forum for it..?? ~A lil mage goes a long way~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogman112018 Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Well, I'm trying to understand how this is bad for rcers. A little explanation please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Well, I'm trying to understand how this is bad for rcers. A little explanation please?To make a rune which has an altar located in the wilderness, or to take a route through the wilderness, it will add a couple of seconds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeggoMyEggo Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 They're just mad they have to do 1 more click... Click here for my Falador World 2 Bank/Park and Price GuideClicky click for Recipe for Disaster Weapons and Gloves Guide!Proud owner of a Woodcutting Cape - Sunday, Febuary 11th, 2007Proud owner of a Flecthing Cape - Sunday December 16th, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogman112018 Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 They're just mad they have to do 1 more click... True that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeggoMyEggo Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Thats the only reason, but if you have heard "Sometimes you must take a life to save a life" this is that kind of thing. But it's NOT that big of a deal. Click here for my Falador World 2 Bank/Park and Price GuideClicky click for Recipe for Disaster Weapons and Gloves Guide!Proud owner of a Woodcutting Cape - Sunday, Febuary 11th, 2007Proud owner of a Flecthing Cape - Sunday December 16th, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisensei808 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Hey, I RC and it doesn't bother me!! It's not all of us RCers!! Jjust a few given us a bad name! Tee hee ~A lil mage goes a long way~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathmath Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 It is a mediocre idea. It would be good if you could turn it off. It does get annoying. Jagex is too lazy to do that though. When I look for easy kills it ruins the surprise when you have to come over a ditch. They see you almost immediately and can run. :notalk: I think it's just an update to fill a week of update space. :XD: Thoroughly retired, may still write now and again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 it is a good addition because along with the luring rule change it has cut the chances of people being lured a good deal, and that it doesn't take all that much longer to get into the wilderness. the only bad thing is that it looks ugly. and it was an additional update for this week, the knowledge base upgrade was the normal update. Thanks to DrCue at DeviantArt for the signature source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 No it is a terrible thing Lol it would be good to backup your point mate :-w Cause i waste 2 secs while abyssing I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Cause i waste 2 secs while abyssing And your point being? As your sig clearly states, you're already 'rich for life' who cares about an extra 2 secs? :roll: Nope, I like this update tbh. I think most people complaining about it just complain for the sake of complaining, It's good to see Jadex taking a pro-active step against lurers. Those that are totally foolish enough to believe what a lurer says definitely deserves to be lured Ex-cuse me? Are you honestly suggesting that just because someone suffers a moments lapse, they deserve to lose everything they might have worked torwards for the last few months? That's an extremely harsh point of view. Would you feel comfortable saying "everyone who doesn't lock their car doors deserves to get car-jacked"? It's really the same thing... I agree, they were foolish for letting themselves get lured, enough there is clear - but I don't actually wish them any ill fortune because of that foolishness. They don't deserve to be lured, we all deserve the right to be able to trade free from fear of scamming and con-men. Blame the criminal, not the victim. Sorry for going off on one. :oops: But, the mentality that the victims of scams somehow deserved their fate, is just a pet peeve of mine. :? - Gid. 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamdan Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I don't agree with the update, but I guess I don't really hate it either. Probably because IMO Runescape has been going downhill since jagex killed classic and I really don't care about it anymore. For starters I think it is really ugly. That ditch looks ridiculous and out of place. The wilderness is supposed to be exactly that: the wilderness. A place where anything goes, a place where it is survival of the fittest. Become stronger or die. The new ditch is one of many changes which is making it the opposite. The wilderness is becoming more and more friendly. Back in classic, you were killed over and over again before you learned how to pk properly. When you did finally learn, pking was intense. With the 3 hit rule, no eating during combat, catching etc. The only way people learned how to pk was by getting killed over and over, because of it, classic vets who still play are some of the better rs2 pkers. If somebody gets lured, they most probably won't again. They died and lost their stuff, but they became smarter. The only way to get better at runescape is through trial and error. Notice the first generation of runescape was much more skilled as a whole than the current? Everybody leaned how to play the hard way, not by reading guides and taking advantage of idiot proof updates. If runescape continues to be updated like it is, the players will just become dumber and dumber. Because they aren't forced to learn anything like we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogman112018 Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 What the person said before me- It would probably look better if it was less ugly or more discreet. And for the rcers out there on this argument, does two seconds both ways REALLY make that big of a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybrid2hell Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 personally, i hate it. In reality it is a really good thing for the wild. The only problem is that it takes so much out of the wild. level 1 is way to short, ect. I engineered this thread with precise variables that I know would cause lul-worthy flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 BAD thing... its thier fault that they got lured... why should we make all the rcing slow down because of their carelessness? Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 technically, the ditch isn't in the wilderness, it's just a few short steps away from it. on a less-nitpicking note, it's finally something that most people can agree is good. If somebody gets lured, they most probably won't again. They died and lost their stuff, but they became smarter. The only way to get better at runescape is through trial and error. Notice the first generation of runescape was much more skilled as a whole than the current? Everybody leaned how to play the hard way, not by reading guides and taking advantage of idiot proof updates. nowadays, people who get lured do not learn, they rant on the forums until their threads get locked, then rant about the forum mod that locked it. i'll agree that players today have it too easy, though, and i wasn't in classic. BAD thing... its thier fault that they got lured... why should we make all the rcing slow down because of their carelessness? it's less than threee seconds slower, and there will be fewer rants of being lured. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 3 seconds slower is alot.. if you are getting really high rc Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogman112018 Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Wasn't lvl 1 shortened up by about 5-10 spaces in each area? I can see where your going with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro108 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I don't think that it is really necessary, I mean before there was a pop-up window that came up and stopped you if it was the first time that you went into the wildy on that log in but I'll deal with it it's no big thing. RS2 is coming to be a game that babies the new players. Back in RSC you had to be tough and you learned by trying something and if that didn't work you tried something else. You died a few times fighting a monster you kept trying and you gain experience by dying you learn your own tricks that a guild could never teach you, you learned that times are tough and life isn't fair. In the real world people aren't going to bend over backwards for you. You're going to have to learn and deal with things so why not have a little fun while doing that in a game. The new generation coming up is just lazy and want other people to do things for them so they can live life to the fullest, well how are you going to do that without learn how to deal with thing? Yes that's a stereotype and I know some great people coming up but everyone even in the real world is being babied and life is going hit them hard. I can take the wilderness ditch but pretty soon the game won't be fun anymore because there is no more chance involved. Everybody will have a phat and there won't be a wilderness because it's unfair that you could die. Jagex can but in some safety features to help people out when they first join but when it comes down to it Jagex can't protect you from yourself. People have to start learning that's it not Jagex's fault that they got scammed or lured they have to learn how not to get lured or scammed. People don't deserve this stuff but most people can only learn from their mistakes. People need to learn to deal and stop ranting when a little setback comes their way. You have the right, and people have the right to hate you for it.Thus, the circle of life is complete.Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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