Poopingman Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Biggest crock ever. :roll: Metal fans, check out my band!Still the King.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Spiritual freedom for your money. How quaint. From what I've heard (which is little, to be fair), it's a cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Everyone who's high-up in it KNOWS it is bullcrap and everyone lower-ranking in it is only in it because they believe it "helps them" I actually find this statement to be very true in all "faith" based structures and organisations. I was just 30 minutes ago watching a document on North Korea. Some western prime ministers got to meet him in a summit and they filmed it. "Why don't you apply social advances and redistribute wealth?" Kim Jong-Il: "In reality, we don't have those resources". So basically his government just keeps telling his people everybody is happy and has lots of food, socialism will triumph, crops are good, employment and productivity will rise.. And those poor people are so brainwashed they don't know better. They believe it and starve to death. They have no free media, they can't even exit the country legally. Before 1900... The church and islamic khalifs, imams, etc. were pretty much exactly the same; except they were trying to manipulate people by scaring them with "hell" or promising them "heaven" if they bent to submission and paid taxes and listened to orders. This system is good for maintaining power: It attaches it's desire to control people and use power on them by taxing them, using them to raise armies and further the leaders' own goals... All because the weak people of the system really believe what they're being told. Their parents were taught the same, and their parents before that.... Yea, you have to wonder what the "higher-up" people know that we do not know. They obviously know something. I don't think a legit Christian could send people into a war that he knew would involve massive civilian deaths and all-in-all be completely unjustified. Yet here we are...Bush, who claims to be Christian, has ordered just that. *Shrug* It's why I don't follow religion. I believe there could be a God, but if there is, it isn't this black and white "be good and you'll go to heaven, to something trivially bad and you're going to hell" BS. Anyone who believes that is not only a yuppy, but is also insulting the intelligence of any supreme being that may exist. Somehow, people think God is below any "grey" areas, which is just moronic. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohto Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 That's completely false, actually. Maybe not the miracles and such in the Bible, but at least all of the people were real people. More meant the book's word in general. Just because some people from their book has lived, it doesn't mean the word of it would be true. Christian god, Allah and the holy things of scientology are the same thing: a thing made up my man. Hohto, you don't really need to lower yourself to an ignorant standard just to insult Christianity. I'm not the one who follows slave moralistic ideology. I've opened my eyes. I'd rather die for what I believe in than live for anything else.Name Removed by Administrator ~Turtlefemm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonpost Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Not quite the same...but along similar lines... Runescape Name: "unbug07"Expand your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I'm not the one who follows slave moralistic ideology. I've opened my eyes. Yeah, I have too. Hence the reason why I follow the religion that I do. Anyway, all I was saying is that everything about Scientology is made up, nothing can be proven. At least the Bible uses some real events and real people. Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 That's completely false, actually. Maybe not the miracles and such in the Bible, but at least all of the people were real people. More meant the book's word in general. Just because some people from their book has lived, it doesn't mean the word of it would be true. Christian god, Allah and the holy things of scientology are the same thing: a thing made up my man. Hohto, you don't really need to lower yourself to an ignorant standard just to insult Christianity. I'm not the one who follows slave moralistic ideology. I've opened my eyes. There's no need to preach here Hohto. This is about scientolgy, not religion in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdavies90 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 To be honest i think all religions are cults. the only reason they get called religions is because it's all down to faith....if it was down to hard evidence they're all cults Sig by me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Neither. It's just a phase. Give it a couple of years before something else comes in. Scientology came around and pushed Kabbalah out of the frame. Yeah, remember that? This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Despite the Scientologists have comments set to moderated only on their John Sweeny clip, I managed to get a comment of mine thru the net. Here is it with the capitals in bold. Muahaha :twisted: wow thiS is a very interesting ClIp. Was this takEN in The exhibitiOn thingy? the conduct of the journaList was shOckinGlY unprofessIonal eSpeciAlly for someone like a bbc reporter. I guess some people just Cant keep their cool in sitUations Like That. What does that spell? ;) Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 You sly dog, but honestly without knowing any better that looks like any other obnoxious youtube comment :P Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Anyway, all I was saying is that everything about Scientology is made up, nothing can be proven. At least the Bible uses some real events and real people. Nothing can be proven religion wise about Christianity. Places mentioned make nothing credible. Christianity requires illogical faith, Scientology requires illogical faith. There the same thing, the details just differ. Really when we take a look at the Christianity aswell, we can clearly see that it's much more richer than Scientology will ever be, so which is more of a fraud? With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 scientology is a cult I had to type it out. :lol: Nothing can be proven religion wise about Christianity. Places mentioned make nothing credible. Christianity requires illogical faith, Scientology requires illogical faith. There the same thing, the details just differ. Last time I checked people like Jesus actually existed. Weather or not he was the messiah or son of god is up to debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 You sly dog, but honestly without knowing any better that looks like any other obnoxious youtube comment :PThe message had to be pro Scientology enough to get allowed. I don't care though, its the hidden meaning behind it that makes me smile and im sure (hope) at least a few other people work it out too. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Last time I checked people like Jesus actually existed. Weather or not he was the messiah or son of god is up to debate. Scientologists would argue that L. Ron Hubbard existed too. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmyk Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 If my knowledge of the South Park episode apart this cult is correct well...how can you believe something written by a science fiction author? Proud Retired Council of The GladiatiorzClick here for our website - 110+ F2P Combat Requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnambulism Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 If my knowledge of the South Park episode apart this cult is correct well...how can you believe something written by a science fiction author? It takes a special kind of idiocy. I do not love thee, Dr. Fell,The reason why I cannot tell;But this I know, and know full well,I do not love thee, Dr. Fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Last time I checked people like Jesus actually existed. Weather or not he was the messiah or son of god is up to debate. That doesn't make it any less of a cult that scientology though does it? The same argument can be applied to scientology. The spaceman came to earth, earth is proven to have existed so it has some factual bases? The answer is no, both require illogical faith, both capitalise money wise from their followers (Christianity more), both indoctrinate people. The only real difference is Christianity is accepted in society and Scientology is not. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Anyway, all I was saying is that everything about Scientology is made up, nothing can be proven. At least the Bible uses some real events and real people. Nothing can be proven religion wise about Christianity. Places mentioned make nothing credible. Christianity requires illogical faith, Scientology requires illogical faith. There the same thing, the details just differ. Really when we take a look at the Christianity aswell, we can clearly see that it's much more richer than Scientology will ever be, so which is more of a fraud? Wow, will the two of you get off it? Honestly. I never said ANYTHING about "religion-wise" so quit responding to quotes that you make up in your head. I know you all hate Christians, and I know you despise the fact that we believe in SOMETHING rather than NOTHING, and I'm sorry that people have different beliefs than you, but seriously, quit taking every advantage to make your rude comments about us. If you dislike me, address me personally, but quit using my religion to do so. Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Anyway, all I was saying is that everything about Scientology is made up, nothing can be proven. At least the Bible uses some real events and real people. Nothing can be proven religion wise about Christianity. Places mentioned make nothing credible. Christianity requires illogical faith, Scientology requires illogical faith. There the same thing, the details just differ. Really when we take a look at the Christianity aswell, we can clearly see that it's much more richer than Scientology will ever be, so which is more of a fraud? Wow, will the two of you get off it? Honestly. I never said ANYTHING about "religion-wise" so quit responding to quotes that you make up in your head. I know you all hate Christians, and I know you despise the fact that we believe in SOMETHING rather than NOTHING, and I'm sorry that people have different beliefs than you, but seriously, quit taking every advantage to make your rude comments about us. If you dislike me, address me personally, but quit using my religion to do so. Agreed. And Satenza I only said that a lot of the people writen about in the bible did exsist. I'm not here to get into a debate if it is or is not a cult, thats not what this thread is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Agreed. And we all know that if Nad agrees with me when I'm speaking of religion, there is no way in Hell (haha) that I'm speaking out of line. :P Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocobodude0 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 What did any of this have to with Christianity? -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupportMage Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Cult. It's a 200 dollar entrance fee, and they "cleanse" you into healing. Along the way they lecture you about why humans are evil and how a sci-fi author is the ultimate savior. It's just like I see Alcoholics Anonymous. They tell you, you have a disease, can't cure yourself, and only we can help you. Otherwise you'll never get a job anywhere. Still alive, still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I never said ANYTHING about "religion-wise" so quit responding to quotes that you make up in your head. Then don't say that this is completley false in the sense that it doesn't have much proof behind it. It is as well "proven" as the Bible or Qur'an because anything metaphyscial that either of them state isn't proven to any degree. The people and the events do not prove the Bible, as it's all about God, and it's aim is to prove Gods existance. Do those events and people prove the Bible to any sort of degree? I know you all hate Christians, and I know you despise the fact that we believe in SOMETHING rather than NOTHING, and I'm sorry that people have different beliefs than you, I don't care whether you have a differing beleif to me, thats not what this is about in the slightest. It's about you saying that the Bible has more proof than Scientology. but seriously, quit taking every advantage to make your rude comments about us. If by rude you mean drawing true parallels from Scientology to Christianity then by all means I am rude. If you dislike me, address me personally, but quit using my religion to do so. Thats not the way I roll. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I don't care whether you have a differing beleif to me, thats not what this is about in the slightest. It's about you saying that the Bible has more proof than Scientology. It does, you idiot. Therefore, everything else you say is wrong and has no meaning. Quit posting. Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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