May 17, 200719 yr Did Jagex change the max hit of the KQ since the update of her graphics? I SWEAR I have been hit for 33 by her before. :-s This is going to make the Tip.it bestiary the best around. : except ppl gonna steal it when its done :(
May 17, 200719 yr The max hits are likely only based on melee, which would explain Ahrim. ~q Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill!
May 17, 200719 yr Jail guard: 32 hp max hit: 3 highwayman: 13 hp max hit: 1 Guard: 22 hp max hit: 3 Druid: 30 hp max hit: 4 Suit of armour: 29 hp max hit: 3 Spider: 2 hp max hit: 1 this is a slayer monster Ponies!
May 18, 200719 yr God damn it Muggi, I did caves last night! Meh, I still win... compiling data ATM, got 114 entries... will post when done. Odd to find Jad has 250 HP though... All the others but Jad and his healers follow the formula of: "double combat level each succeeding monster, HP is 4/9 of combat level, max hit is 3 times 1/10 of HP + 1". NAME COMBAT HP Max Hit Tz-Kih 22 10 4 Tz-Kek 22 10 4 Tz-Kek 45 20 7 Tok-Xil 90 40 13 (melee, ranged) Yt-HurKot 108 60 14 Yt-MejKot 180 80 25 Ket-Zek 360 160 49 (melee, magic) TzTok-Jad 702 250 97 (melee, magic, ranged) And yes, I do have all PC monsters. :) INTERESTING NEWS! I sent a message to Jagex about Red Dragons. Apparently "they have been assigned by various slayer masters for a long time". They are mainly assigned by Chaeldar and Duradel and give 142 xp (mothers) and 68 (babies). Someone go try and get a reds assignment? BIG NOTE!!! Do you realize we've NEVER seen a monster with more than 255 HP?! Jagex must be using an unsigned 8-bit integer to store HP! So that means 255 is the max... no monster will ever have more than 255 hits! Skeletal Wyverns have 200 HP (woot for Monster Examine)... when I asked Jagex, they said 204... THEY LOOKED AT TIP.IT! Bad Jagex CS. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 18, 200719 yr God damn it Muggi, I did caves last night! Meh, I still win... compiling data ATM, got 114 entries... will post when done. Odd to find Jad has 250 HP though... All the others but Jad and his healers follow the formula of: "double combat level each succeeding monster, HP is 4/9 of combat level, max hit is 3 times 1/10 of HP + 1". NAME COMBAT HP Max Hit Tz-Kih 22 10 4 Tz-Kek 22 10 4 Tz-Kek 45 20 7 Tok-Xil 90 40 13 (melee, ranged) Yt-HurKot 108 60 14 Yt-MejKot 180 80 25 Ket-Zek 360 160 49 (melee, magic) TzTok-Jad 702 250 97 (melee, magic, ranged) And yes, I do have all PC monsters. :) INTERESTING NEWS! I sent a message to Jagex about Red Dragons. Apparently "they have been assigned by various slayer masters for a long time". They are mainly assigned by Chaeldar and Duradel and give 142 xp (mothers) and 68 (babies). Someone go try and get a reds assignment? BIG NOTE!!! Do you realize we've NEVER seen a monster with more than 255 HP?! Jagex must be using an unsigned 8-bit integer to store HP! So that means 255 is the max... no monster will ever have more than 255 hits! Skeletal Wyverns have 200 HP (woot for Monster Examine)... when I asked Jagex, they said 204... THEY LOOKED AT TIP.IT! Bad Jagex CS. im realy sry to burst ur bubble and all but um...{edit}the kq has nvm thinking somthing else[/edit] anyways this needs to get fixed it shud show all styles of combat max like drag are melle and mage "fire breath" max
May 18, 200719 yr Love the way you killed Jad lol :P . I really hope we see an update on the maxes next week. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks.
May 18, 200719 yr Please post pics of monster examines in the Bestiary topic http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=496519 !! Muggiwhplar did and he's been credited!! Um. I'm a bit dense here as I've never killed the KQ. She has 255 hp for one form and 253 for another, making 498 HP total?! it's a lot easier to get over yourself when you look at intelligence the same way you look at beauty, or height, or eye color: being smart is easy, but being good is hard ... being smart is handed to you, being good is handed to *nobody*.
May 18, 200719 yr That would be 508... and I'll be checking on the KQ... I doubt the second form has only 253... maybe he hit 2 damage first. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 18, 200719 yr About what you say in your private chat there: I think that 97 is his max melee hit. Just like Ahrim, it gives 11 as his max hit, while his spells can hit much higher. So either or both his ranged and magic attack could hit 99. Retired.
May 18, 200719 yr I think Muggiwhplar is just out of his mind. :P I have seen 97 before actually... NEVER 99. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 20, 200719 yr pardon my lack of knowledge, but.... why would it matter if it were a slayer monster? is there some sort of bug with them? Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
May 20, 200719 yr anyone check the chaos elemental? If anyone could for mee that'd be great lol... PLENTY more where that came from. As in... 269 more and counting. pardon my lack of knowledge, but.... why would it matter if it were a slayer monster? is there some sort of bug with them? They never were a slayer monster before... so I'm wondering if it's a bug that it says they are, or they really are a slayer monster now. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 22, 200719 yr I've got almost 400 proofshots now. :D Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 22, 200719 yr theirs a bunch of errors with the monster examine, the ogres near castle wars are said to have 52 HP, but infact have 60. blue dragons have nearly 100 hp, not sure on the exact number, but it said 35 hp for me.
May 22, 200719 yr theirs a bunch of errors with the monster examine, the ogres near castle wars are said to have 52 HP, but infact have 60. blue dragons have nearly 100 hp, not sure on the exact number, but it said 35 hp for me. Blue dragons are 105 HP. The reason your scans were inaccurate is because it scans current HP, not max. So you must scan when they are at full HP, before any damage has been done to them. Kthnxbye. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 22, 200719 yr INTERESTING NEWS! I sent a message to Jagex about Red Dragons. Apparently "they have been assigned by various slayer masters for a long time". They are mainly assigned by Chaeldar and Duradel and give 142 xp (mothers) and 68 (babies). Someone go try and get a reds assignment? Red Dragons are not Slayer Monsters. I think this is more of that "wonderful" Jagex Customer Support. BIG NOTE!!! Do you realize we've NEVER seen a monster with more than 255 HP?! Jagex must be using an unsigned 8-bit integer to store HP! So that means 255 is the max... no monster will ever have more than 255 hits! Daggonoth Kings are around 300HP each. Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done
May 22, 200719 yr :o those Jad pics are awesome. By the way, did muggi lie, and the best way to do the caves is with karils bow after all?
May 22, 200719 yr INTERESTING NEWS! I sent a message to Jagex about Red Dragons. Apparently "they have been assigned by various slayer masters for a long time". They are mainly assigned by Chaeldar and Duradel and give 142 xp (mothers) and 68 (babies). Someone go try and get a reds assignment? Red Dragons are not Slayer Monsters. I think this is more of that "wonderful" Jagex Customer Support. I know they never were and I was thinking the same about CS's quality... just a bit odd that the spell says they are slayer monsters. BIG NOTE!!! Do you realize we've NEVER seen a monster with more than 255 HP?! Jagex must be using an unsigned 8-bit integer to store HP! So that means 255 is the max... no monster will ever have more than 255 hits! Daggonoth Kings are around 300HP each. You spelled Dagannoth wrong, and no they're not 300 HP, it's 255. Dagannoths heal very fast and the reason the Tip.It bestiary says 331 is me... before we knew that slayer XP was NOT equal to HP, as monster examine is teaching us. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 22, 200719 yr INTERESTING NEWS! I sent a message to Jagex about Red Dragons. Apparently "they have been assigned by various slayer masters for a long time". They are mainly assigned by Chaeldar and Duradel and give 142 xp (mothers) and 68 (babies). Someone go try and get a reds assignment? Red Dragons are not Slayer Monsters. I think this is more of that "wonderful" Jagex Customer Support. I know they never were and I was thinking the same about CS's quality... just a bit odd that the spell says they are slayer monsters. BIG NOTE!!! Do you realize we've NEVER seen a monster with more than 255 HP?! Jagex must be using an unsigned 8-bit integer to store HP! So that means 255 is the max... no monster will ever have more than 255 hits! Daggonoth Kings are around 300HP each. You spelled Dagannoth wrong, and no they're not 300 HP, it's 255. Dagannoths heal very fast and the reason the Tip.It bestiary says 331 is me... before we knew that slayer XP was NOT equal to HP, as monster examine is teaching us. There have been so many flaws with this spell, I would think that the HP limitation is with the spell, rather than in the game itself (i.e., the spell can only report a maximum of 255 HP no matter what the actual XP is) Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done
May 22, 200719 yr There have been so many flaws with this spell, I would think that the HP limitation is with the spell, rather than in the game itself (i.e., the spell can only report a maximum of 255 HP no matter what the actual XP is) I don't see why that would be the case when the spell is simply printing stored numbers. Storing a value is one thing and is limited, simply calling it and printing the value on screen is another... why would they limit that to 250?
May 23, 200719 yr There have been so many flaws with this spell, I would think that the HP limitation is with the spell, rather than in the game itself (i.e., the spell can only report a maximum of 255 HP no matter what the actual XP is) I don't see why that would be the case when the spell is simply printing stored numbers. Storing a value is one thing and is limited, simply calling it and printing the value on screen is another... why would they limit that to 250? The spell reads the HP from the packet containing the monster's (that you are scanning) data and prints it out. The spell's definitely not limited to showing 255... The max value of an 8-bit unsigned integer is 255, however if the HP for a monster were greater than 255, they'd need to use a larger type (to store it), 16 or 32 bit. If they tried to use a type of integer lower than the one the HP is stored in, to display the data on Monster Examine, they'd get a compilation error or warning, and RuneScape could not run. So your theory is disproved, sorry. I've also counted like 262 damage on Supreme, soloing him, right after he spawned. Also, I don't know what you mean by "so many flaws". The only flaw is that some monsters use different max hit formulas and they haven't programmed the spell to use the right ones accordingly for all the monsters yet. Please learn programming before speaking, Berrakus... Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler.
May 23, 200719 yr :o those Jad pics are awesome. By the way, did muggi lie, and the best way to do the caves is with karils bow after all? Karils is faster but it's way easier w/ crystal
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