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Now on the RS hompage:

 

We would like to remind everyone again that buying RuneScape gold/items for real world money is against the rules and will result in a permanent ban.

 

 

 

Trying to get ahead unfairly by breaking Rule 12 is unacceptable, and doing so also funds many other cheating problems, so we are taking a very strict stance on this now.

 

 

 

As we said we would, we've been working hard to ban players who play unfairly. Since we last posted about this we've banned another 4738 players for buying RuneScape items/gold for real money, which is in breach of rule 12. We don't like banning players, but when they try to spoil the game for everyone else we have no choice. We believe this is also the most effective way to combat the botting, which is a method used by the sellers.

 

 

 

The fact that some people still think they can get away with it and won't just get banned is quite surprising. We really do mean it when we say that buying gold for real-world money = a permanent ban. We have reliable ways to trace this now. It's a shame so many people have to find that out the hard way. (These are NOT people lending items to their friends, we really are sure they were genuinely buying gold for real world money.)

 

 

 

Finally, here are another 2 examples out of the 4738 players we just banned for real world trading:

 

 

 

Player X

 

Total Level: Over 1440

 

Total time in-game: Over 92 days

 

Status: Permanently banned for real-world trading

 

 

 

Player Y

 

Total Level: Over 1500

 

Total time in-game: Over 113 days

 

Status: Permanently banned for real-world trading

 

 

 

What a ridiculous waste! Why these players decided to try to cheat - in a way we can easily detect - and throw their accounts away is hard to comprehend. Don't make the same mistake. Don't buy items/gold for real-world money.

 

 

 

 

Personally, I'll want to question the credibility of this:

 

Why these players decided to try to cheat - in a way we can easily detect

 

EDIT: Previously the tip.it forum user Gin and Tonic posted a rant about how legitimate players were banned because they were lending their friends items or cash with reasonably high street values, they were banned for RWT

Easily detect? :shock:

 

 

 

I'm not lending my Guthan's out again. :notalk:

I doubt it would be easy to detect. If the player kept a low profile, it would be terribly hard to detect real world trading. Jagex would need to moniter his/her account for weeks to suspect it.

 

 

 

Good job on their part though. Banning almost 5 thousand players must take some time, and it looks like they're actually starting to do something about it again.

I doubt it would be easy to detect. If the player kept a low profile, it would be terribly hard to detect real world trading. Jagex would need to moniter his/her account for weeks to suspect it.

 

 

 

Good job on their part though. Banning almost 5 thousand players must take some time, and it looks like they're actually starting to do something about it again.

 

 

 

They say the can detect the difference between people lending items, and people buying, but I want to know how they can be sure without watching someones account for a very long time.

 

 

 

The only problem comes in with all these recent bans, is some people might have been legitimate. I really hope no one legitimate WAS banned.... I don't want Jagex trying to look good, but ending up screwing themselves -.-

I have lend out high priced items in the range of barrows armor, rune armor and dragon items before. But never ever been banned. I have also received gifts such as glories and full rune from friends before. Never ever been banned.

 

 

 

I believe in the system that JageX use to detect thees people. High end people like Cursed You etc have claimed that they have been wrongly banned before, but later, they have told us the truth that they indeed was cheating.

 

 

 

Offcourse human error may always apply. But I believe Jagex to be correct in at least 99.9% of the cases.

I doubt it would be easy to detect. If the player kept a low profile, it would be terribly hard to detect real world trading. Jagex would need to moniter his/her account for weeks to suspect it.

 

 

 

Good job on their part though. Banning almost 5 thousand players must take some time, and it looks like they're actually starting to do something about it again.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's true. It is good to see, how jagex is really doing something with this huge problem in RS community.They are right, perm. banning ppl is the best and only way to reduce the problem.

I doubt it would be easy to detect. If the player kept a low profile, it would be terribly hard to detect real world trading. Jagex would need to moniter his/her account for weeks to suspect it.

 

 

 

Good job on their part though. Banning almost 5 thousand players must take some time, and it looks like they're actually starting to do something about it again.

 

 

 

They say the can detect the difference between people lending items, and people buying, but I want to know how they can be sure without watching someones account for a very long time.

 

 

 

The only problem comes in with all these recent bans, is some people might have been legitimate. I really hope no one legitimate WAS banned.... I don't want Jagex trying to look good, but ending up screwing themselves -.-

 

 

 

There is always the chance that the person could be innocent. That chance, however, is very slim. RWT's most likely lend large amounts of cash to many people. Legit player's lend mostly items or something else to people who have been on their friends list a long time. I have lent many items to friends(full veracs for kqing, full guthans for dking, dragon axes) and I have yet to get banned.

Easily detect? :shock:

 

 

 

I'm not lending my Guthan's out again. :notalk:

 

 

 

yea, your late by a year or 2, of that having a high street value.

They're never going to tell you how they detect real life trading. To do so, would give said traders, the knowledge to avoid being caught in the future.

 

 

 

I imagine Jagex are aware of most reallife trading sites and simply use those to track the cheating scum that use them.

honestly jagex is jsut saying that to scare people IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how hard is it to stake all the cash in a one win duel or even trick the chat log asking for a loan, or barrowing, or wearing for fun.

 

 

 

 

 

unless if thats there detection system, because so many high stakers have been banned.

 

 

 

 

 

just my 2 cents

honestly jagex is jsut saying that to scare people IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how hard is it to stake all the cash in a one win duel or even trick the chat log asking for a loan, or barrowing, or wearing for fun.

 

 

 

 

 

unless if thats there detection system, because so many high stakers have been banned.

 

 

 

 

 

just my 2 cents

 

 

 

pretty much, not sure about the high staker thing though, because they later admit they did real world trade. even if you are in that situation and you dont admit to real world trading you would just try to keep your reputation.

 

 

 

either way, i think it has to do something with the friend list.

 

 

 

if you have someone added for a month or longer and you trade them 1mil you wont get banned.

 

 

 

if you add someone in 5 seconds and say "ya man meet me here"

 

and trade them 1mil and remove them on the same day.

 

too suspicious?

 

 

 

that also falls in another category too where they could actually be friends and has them trade it to their noob account.

 

which is why drop trading and interacting with accounts is illegal, so that they have a right to ban you anyway.

I wonder how Jagex would have reacted to me giving away my entire bank if I hadn't been chatting animatedly to my friends beforehand. :lol:

Haha Jagex probably has some websites out there selling gold to people in RS only to ban them later! They get their $5 for that month and the money they pay for the gold! Possibly working deals out with those who sell gold? Hmm interesting much yes. Lol ok my conspiracy theory is over...

 

 

 

Crusher777

Didn't catch me so all's good \

Haha Jagex probably has some websites out there selling gold to people in RS only to ban them later! They get their $5 for that month and the money they pay for the gold! Possibly working deals out with those who sell gold? Hmm interesting much yes. Lol ok my conspiracy theory is over...

 

 

 

Crusher777

 

 

 

that would be extortion.

Haha Jagex probably has some websites out there selling gold to people in RS only to ban them later! They get their $5 for that month and the money they pay for the gold! Possibly working deals out with those who sell gold? Hmm interesting much yes. Lol ok my conspiracy theory is over...

 

 

 

Crusher777

 

I would believe in that.

I want to know how they realli can detect the difference of gving away money n lending it to buying it??

Well what I think they do is this:

 

 

 

They find a botter at green dragons or someplace where there are a lot of botters. They don't ban the player but they follow his bones and hides. At some point they are going to end up at the person that sells them. Then they track the GP. At some point it's going to end up at the account that transfers money to players. They log all this account's trades where he trades a large ammount of money for (virtually) nothing or drops a large ammount of money. And then at one point (like today) they ban those people. And they don't do this with one green dragon botter but with a bunch.

 

 

 

That's what I would do anyway. So unless you all of a sudden get traded 30m and accept or pick up an ammount like that from the floor, you would be pretty much safe

They can easily detect it, in the rants forum guess what, they weren't banned by mistake they RWT. Plain and simple, Jagex can see if you're getting 10m from someone with 1k+ total lvl and 4000 in game hours, and they can see if you're getting 10m from a lvl 3 standing in the varrock bank. It's plain and simple.

my friend gave me 10m before the first banning and were not banned

i often pass around rares between clanmates and loan 10m+ and no one has been banned for this

 

 

 

i ACTUALLY believe they have a legitimate way of detecting this, and it is legit

the important thing here is the number: 5,000. If they had 25 people working at this, (hypothetically) that's only 200 accounts banned by 1 person. Over the course of a week, it breaks down to 30 accounts a day, meaning that Jagex would spend 15 minutes evaluating the evidence, which is ample time.

Does anybody think that jagex staff are gettin jobs on these GP sites? They seem to be very confident saying they have VERY good and secure ways of knowing when people are buying this money?

I, for one, am glad they're finally doing something. Taking a firm stance against RWT is indeed the best way to combat botting without having to reset the entire way the game is coded. Incorrect bans occur every day, and are a harsh reality; it's a small price to pay.

 

 

 

I, as well, believe their trade-tracking system actually works. Recently a friend loaned me some quite expensive gear for some Fight Caves attempts, and we traded them on and off a few times, depending on when he/I needed them, and so far I've seen no incorrect repremanding for it. I can't be sure what exactly their system is, but I'm content to know that they're taking the initiative over there and asserting themselves against the autoers.

They simply link the gold back to the macroers. Pretty much the gold is bugged and when you get it for free in RS they know something is up.