InkofDeath Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Basically I've had tis comp for 5-6 years. I practically run any program(internet browser too), and 1 hour later I end up lagging from anywhere from 5minutes to 3 hours..or computer restarts. Anyways I was wondering should I upgrade to a new computer? Or stay with this one, but upgrade certain aspects of it? What I think I should post-.-: Anything else, I'll get it. Cost isn't much an issue, I just want to be able to use irc+runescape+two internet pages for once...without the lag that i get 4-5 times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I would just add another 256mg or 512 stick of ram. Yes your pc is old, but it will be able to do what you want. To find which ram you need to go here. Let it scan your system and it will tell you want ram you can get for your pc and a rough price (you can buy the ram straight from crucial if you want) [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 I would just add another 256mg or 512 stick of ram. Yes your pc is old, but it will be able to do what you want. To find which ram you need to go here. Let it scan your system and it will tell you want ram you can get for your pc and a rough price (you can buy the ram straight from crucial if you want) haha, ftw. I hope this works, if it doesn't I can see myself with a hammer, in my backyard...=) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I'm in agreement with joe, a gig of ram would be just fine. You aren't doing anything that takes much power and a gig would allow you to have more going on at once without lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 It's OEM Windows XP, so there are issues with any upgrade that would costitute a "new" computer - if the motherboard and network interface remain the same, then ther should be a lot it will take before needing re-activation. More memory, definitely - Windows XP is struggling in 224MB 224MB ? That's suspicious - looks like 256MB with 32 used for onboard graphics, so a graphics card (if it will take one) would also be a worthwile improvement - pretty well anything that carries an Athlon XP would be monumentally outclassed by any current graphics card (even the cheapest), and it takes some load off the system memory as well. Take a rummage around device manager, and pick out the name of the graphics controller and a few other components - the chipset maker name should appear in several of the system components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopingman Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 More ram, otherwise you're fine, honestly. Metal fans, check out my band!Still the King.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I agree with Nadril, 1GB of ram would be a very good upgrade. You could upgrade the graphics card but since the game you mentioned, Runescape, is not graphically intense your onboard should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 Thanks. =D> I'm going tomorrow to buy 1.7gig of ram, since I can afford that. \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primadog Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Thanks. =D> I'm going tomorrow to buy 1.7gig of ram, since I can afford that. \ you mean - two gigs. Ram only goes by: 256mb, 512mb, 1gb, 2gb. Double check that your computer use DDR or DDR2, cause it's not backward compatible. All I learned in life, I learned on Tip.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 An Athlon XP wouldn't be using DDR2... It was on the crossover between SDRAM (PC133) and DDR, with some motherboards and chipsets having some pretty serious compatibility problems with RAM density and single/double sided issues. Identify the motherboard (often shows briefly during the BIOS bootup) and look it up at Crucial, or run their wizard, even if you don't end up buying there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufoman Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 right then about the Ram- I suggest you run Sandra to see what kind of slots you have, Sandra is a Benchmark software tool develped by SI Systems. Here is the Link to the Dowload page for the Free Version... Yes its a very Light Version of their product but it should do the job. I have the older Free version however so Im not sure what this one is like. http://www.sisoftware.net/index.html?di ... angx=en&a= you will want to run a Mainboard Information Scan I belive to find out Important Details about your system. In perticuler you will want what sort of Ram you have, ddr2, sdrm, exetra. and you want to know the Speed. Remember that the Spead of one Stick when running duel Channel Memory Dictates the Speed of the other. Also remember what spead I am refering to Is Latency in Miliseconds. the lower the number the better- the shorter the delay time is. now their is alot of good guides out their about Ram, so I wont be walking you through this. Also be sure to find out what sort of Graphics Slot you have and try to get a Graphics card that it will support. since its and older system I don't expect it to be any more than 60 or so Dollars if you can still find one. My computer happens to be as old as yours, its only got 2 Ram Slots and is currently running with a Celeron Proccessor at 1.3ghz. 384mb of ram, and a 128 Megabyte Graphics card. one thing you definately want to do is check how many expansion slots you have... Have you ever cleaned it for dust? try opening it up and takeing a can of compressed air to it. their are cleaning guides out their. Overheating can cause alot of problems. run Disk Cleanup to get rid of old and usless Data, and run Disk Defragmenter to get your hard drive running Smoother. These are basic maintance things that should be done at least every 6 months. Clan Moderator from December 15th 2006- August 20th 2007Founder of: Terran Gamers, formerly known as Militos Deci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted June 15, 2007 Author Share Posted June 15, 2007 thanks bufo, I do defrag my comp, I have taken compressed air to the inside of my comp...the first time i did this it was messy =X. I'll do that sandra thing before I go buy more ram then, and I'll also figure out all the other stuff you've suggested. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 You need a new computer. Dual cores are taking over the market, and someday you're going to see a cool dual/quad threaded program you want and your computer won't run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Thanks. =D> I'm going tomorrow to buy 1.7gig of ram, since I can afford that. \ you mean - two gigs. Ram only goes by: 256mb, 512mb, 1gb, 2gb. Double check that your computer use DDR or DDR2, cause it's not backward compatible. why you could still buy 1gb, 512mb and 256 mb... (doesnt work on any motherboard) first check howmany mb your motherbord can work on... i crashed my pc by just adding 512mb... ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 You need a new computer. Dual cores are taking over the market, and someday you're going to see a cool dual/quad threaded program you want and your computer won't run it. I think right now he pretty much just wants to play runescape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 You need a new computer. Dual cores are taking over the market, and someday you're going to see a cool dual/quad threaded program you want and your computer won't run it. Not true, every program that is mutlithreaded currently can support a single core processor by only using 1 thread for the program. Thats how it will be for a long time to come too. It might just be twice as slow only using one thread other than 2 but it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futurama Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 You need a new computer. Dual cores are taking over the market, and someday you're going to see a cool dual/quad threaded program you want and your computer won't run it. You sound like a sales clerk. One that doesn't listen to his customer. Adding ram won't help your lag but will stop your comp spazzing out on you when you run a bunch of programs. If you can install it yourself, do that, it's rather easy - make sure you spyware check clean the dust out etc etc blah blah blah too. I'm not sure if you can install 7xxmb ram but if you can do that, if not, go for a 512mb stick (or another 256mb stick on top of your current if its only one stick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Any progress? More RAM will certainly help, as XP plus any great application load will result in massive swapfile hammering in 256MB or less. Runescape can use about 90MB of Java application memory, and tha's in addition to what the runtime itself uses - pretty much guarantees that almost everything else will be swapped heavily. 2GB total is probably overkill for "normal" use, 1GB is generally comfortable for most WinXP workloads, and 512MB would still be a hell of a lot better than 256. While RuneScape and most general use is not heavily dependent on a graphics card, relieving the onboard chipset and system RAM from graphics workloads generally improves performance, even if the graphics card used is no more than comparable to the onboard. Unless going for graphics-intesive games that DO make strong use of a card, a cheap Geforce 6200 or 7300 model, or perhaps an ATI X1300/X1550 (the 1550 is a renamed 1300) would do. If it has a graphics card slot, it will be AGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 How the heck is this topic still bumped lmao. Anyways, I was wanting to buy 1gb of RAM...The manager at the store said my comp can't support that much, and the best I could do was a 256RAM stick. I didn't buy anything because I know in the future I'll need at least 1gb or more... sigh>.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmms Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 first check howmany mb your motherbord can work on... i crashed my pc by just adding 512mb... you ment to keep the the slots equal in value that might be y it crashed i know when i had my 2 gigs in the white slots, and then the other 2 256mb in the black slots it wouldnt start so i had to make it even 1g and 256mb in the whites and 1gb and 256mb in the blacks otherwise it wouldnt boot up Aefx(started 11/1/2002) Cb: 200 TS: 1900+Bmms--Jr(Started on 1/24/06)(Banned 11/13/09 ) Cb: 119(pre-eoc) TS: 1700+Bmms(Started 8/?/2001)(Banned 1/24/06 ) Cb: 101(pre-eoc) TS: 1350+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 first check howmany mb your motherbord can work on... i crashed my pc by just adding 512mb... you ment to keep the the slots equal in value that might be y it crashed i know when i had my 2 gigs in the white slots, and then the other 2 256mb in the black slots it wouldnt start so i had to make it even 1g and 256mb in the whites and 1gb and 256mb in the blacks otherwise it wouldnt boot up i had a computer running fine on 512mb for around 6 years already... and some months ago i tryed to add another 512mb it workd fine till the day after it it wouldnt do anything... removed the 512mb but still didnt do anything... bougth new power supply still nothing... (maybe the motherboard just got to hot because it didnt have a casefan, or its just me :roll: ) now im playing rs on a pc that makes more noise then a airplane... Etleast its something... ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blosssom2581 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 If I were u, I'd grab another 256Mb / 512Mb of DDR ram and stick to it for another couple of year before dismissing it But it's still your choice, because computer of this age often face many problems, and the one that ur going to suffer from is most likely motherboard / Power supply problems. Should u face motherboard problems, ur PC will be instantly down and u need to renew it (I DON'T recommand second hand motherboards) When the end of service life of power supply is approaching, you need to replace it or ur PC will not boot at all or cause system instability. Problems of PC also causes problem of hardware, like what we say, 'you are what you eat', 'hardwares are also what they uses'! So, if you can get access to cheap RAMs, upgrade it, if not, trash it and get a brand new one p.s. 1) componments in old computer like CD drives and floppy drives can be used in a new PC if u decide to DIY and build up ur customized PC 2) PC = personal computer but NOT Pest Control (lol) :wink: Currently taking a break from Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 You need a new computer. Dual cores are taking over the market, and someday you're going to see a cool dual/quad threaded program you want and your computer won't run it. You sound like a sales clerk. One that doesn't listen to his customer. :D I have a future. Actually I don't know what a sales clerck woould sound like, it's been about ... uuhhh... never since I taled to one in English. Good English. I'm serious- Vista actually runs faster than I expected, and I have a dual core processor. Faster than the cmputers on XP at my school. Dual-threaded programs would run awful on a single threaded processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Dual-threaded programs would run awful on a single threaded processor. Well duh it's not the programs fault, a dual core processor has 1 full processor more than a single core, of course it's going to be faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkluniux Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Basically I've had tis comp for 5-6 years. I practically run any program(internet browser too), and 1 hour later I end up lagging from anywhere from 5minutes to 3 hours..or computer restarts. Anyways I was wondering should I upgrade to a new computer? Or stay with this one, but upgrade certain aspects of it? What I think I should post-.-: Anything else, I'll get it. Cost isn't much an issue, I just want to be able to use irc+runescape+two internet pages for once...without the lag that i get 4-5 times a day. My computer got +/- the same caracteristics, and I got with it 6 years too, I gonna change it for a new. If you can, buy a 1 Gb of memory ram computer with 80 megabytes of hard disk and something like 2.8 to 3.6 procesator. Remember the golden rule: AVOID THE DOUBLE HARD DRIVE COMPUTERS! http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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