Do you think you have a soul?

[kelem_ryu]

Animals could have souls as well. Or planets for that matter. I do believe that planets and stars are beings and i think being a sun would feel awsome.

 

See, that's just thinking too much about mythology. I can understand the need to think we humans, who can feel empathy, have souls, but a burning mass of hydrogen :lol: ? That's pushing it.

 

 

 

And where do you draw a line for a soul in living organisms? Zebras? Rats? Flies? Bacteria? There is no line to be made. The logic of the concept is just... nonexistent. From a human perspective anyways :| .

 

 

 

I don't draw a line. Maybe soul is something inherent to anything. Maybe matter is just an expression of soul. A mountain may have soul to. It may also have consciouness.

[The Real ET]

Animals could have souls as well. Or planets for that matter. I do believe that planets and stars are beings and i think being a sun would feel awsome.

 

See, that's just thinking too much about mythology. I can understand the need to think we humans, who can feel empathy, have souls, but a burning mass of hydrogen :lol: ? That's pushing it.

 

 

 

And where do you draw a line for a soul in living organisms? Zebras? Rats? Flies? Bacteria? There is no line to be made. The logic of the concept is just... nonexistent. From a human perspective anyways :| .

 

 

 

I don't draw a line. Maybe soul is something inherent to anything. Maybe matter is just an expression of soul. A mountain may have soul to. It may also have consciouness.

 

 

 

Could it be? Yes, yes it is! References to paganist religions! I was waiting for this, just to see how people would react. Now kind sir or madam, I ask you to back up your claim, so we can turn it into a discussion point. Personally, I like talk about the old religions though I don't believe in any of them. =P

[crimsonking]

To me it would seem that life would be completly pointless if the minds we spent years to develop just ceased to exist once we died, so I would have to lean toward us having souls rather than not, of course there is always the possibility that life is pointless and we do cease to exist after death.

 

 

 

But the only way to truly know for sure at the moment is to die.

 

 

 

Animals could have souls as well. Or planets for that matter. I do believe that planets and stars are beings and i think being a sun would feel awsome.

 

See, that's just thinking too much about mythology. I can understand the need to think we humans, who can feel empathy, have souls, but a burning mass of hydrogen :lol: ? That's pushing it.

 

 

 

And where do you draw a line for a soul in living organisms? Zebras? Rats? Flies? Bacteria? There is no line to be made. The logic of the concept is just... nonexistent. From a human perspective anyways :| .

 

 

 

I don't draw a line. Maybe soul is something inherent to anything. Maybe matter is just an expression of soul. A mountain may have soul to. It may also have consciouness.

 

 

 

Could it be? Yes, yes it is! References to paganist religions! I was waiting for this, just to see how people would react. Now kind sir or madam, I ask you to back up your claim, so we can turn it into a discussion point. Personally, I like talk about the old religions though I don't believe in any of them. =P

 

 

 

Why must he back it up? Hes expressing his belief, not ordering you to believe in it, I could just as easily ask you to back up your disbelief in religion, yet all you or anyone would be able to do is answer with unproven theorys, so I would advise you to not start a useless and unnecessary arguement, especially seeing as religious discussion has already been banned before due to them.

[warri0r45]

Asking someone to back up disbelief in something is a logically bankrupt task. The ususal chronology is that the claimant backs up the claim. Whether it's just as 'provable' or 'unprovable' for or against means nothing as I could just as easily ask you to back up disbelief in my assertion that exactly 1,234,223 special oranges orbit a supernatural planet made of 3 toed socks beyond the edges of the universe. But, of course, you don't need to do this because firstly, I'm the one making that assertion and believing it and if I demanded such a justified explanation for everything you disbelieve we'd be here for eternity because my imagination knows no limits.

 

 

 

Oh and what are the 'unproven theories' you're referring to, may I ask?

[assassin_696]

You are made up of trillions of individual cells, not one of which knows or even cares who you are

 

 

 

Kind of puts things in perspective when you think about it like doesn't it? :P

 

 

 

Of course, I don't know, no one can really know, but I think it's just wishful thinking.

[kelem_ryu]

To me it would seem that life would be completly pointless if the minds we spent years to develop just ceased to exist once we died, so I would have to lean toward us having souls rather than not, of course there is always the possibility that life is pointless and we do cease to exist after death.

 

 

 

But the only way to truly know for sure at the moment is to die.

 

 

 

To me there is an important difference between mind and soul. I'd say mind is a construct that can dissolve and cease to exist. Soul or even more so "a soul" is some eternal essence. I have to admit though that i use both words without much thought of definition myself.

 

 

 

Animals could have souls as well. Or planets for that matter. I do believe that planets and stars are beings and i think being a sun would feel awsome.

 

See, that's just thinking too much about mythology. I can understand the need to think we humans, who can feel empathy, have souls, but a burning mass of hydrogen :lol: ? That's pushing it.

 

 

 

And where do you draw a line for a soul in living organisms? Zebras? Rats? Flies? Bacteria? There is no line to be made. The logic of the concept is just... nonexistent. From a human perspective anyways :| .

 

 

 

I don't draw a line. Maybe soul is something inherent to anything. Maybe matter is just an expression of soul. A mountain may have soul to. It may also have consciouness.

 

 

 

Could it be? Yes, yes it is! References to paganist religions! I was waiting for this, just to see how people would react. Now kind sir or madam, I ask you to back up your claim, so we can turn it into a discussion point. Personally, I like talk about the old religions though I don't believe in any of them. =P

 

 

 

Why must he back it up? Hes expressing his belief, not ordering you to believe in it, I could just as easily ask you to back up your disbelief in religion, yet all you or anyone would be able to do is answer with unproven theorys, so I would advise you to not start a useless and unnecessary arguement, especially seeing as religious discussion has already been banned before due to them.

 

 

 

It's okay. I don't know much about paganism, although now that you mentioned it, it seems there are some parallels between it and what i say. I know a little bit about Hinduism and Buddism though and i guess part of my believes are taken from there. Yet the main part is based on experiences i had during my schizophrenia. Still these believes i can hardly argue about, because they are mostly based on feelings and thoughts i had somewhere in between being awake and dreaming (that line kinda blurrs when you are schizophrenic.)

 

 

 

As i already said i'm very positive about being more then a body. It just feels like that. Atm i wouldn't mind dieing because i wouldn't have to carry this extremly heavy body (well it feels heavy. it's "just" 60 or so kg) around. It's about the feeling you have some time of not wanting to be at work/school right now.

 

 

 

Anyway.. i didn't actually spend much time formulating these believes into a hypothesis. So i can just back these claims up with telling how i got to believe in them.

[Soul_failure]

Animals could have souls as well. Or planets for that matter. I do believe that planets and stars are beings and i think being a sun would feel awsome.

 

See, that's just thinking too much about mythology. I can understand the need to think we humans, who can feel empathy, have souls, but a burning mass of hydrogen :lol: ? That's pushing it.

 

 

 

And where do you draw a line for a soul in living organisms? Zebras? Rats? Flies? Bacteria? There is no line to be made. The logic of the concept is just... nonexistent. From a human perspective anyways :| .

 

 

 

I don't draw a line. Maybe soul is something inherent to anything. Maybe matter is just an expression of soul. A mountain may have soul to. It may also have consciouness.

 

 

 

Could it be? Yes, yes it is! References to paganist religions! I was waiting for this, just to see how people would react. Now kind sir or madam, I ask you to back up your claim, so we can turn it into a discussion point. Personally, I like talk about the old religions though I don't believe in any of them. =P

 

 

 

I also believe everything has a soul,+1 on kelem_ryu for mentioning this as beliefs such as these often get shot down. :thumbsup: I also like the way you used words such as "maybe" and "may", as we do not know we can't prove it, but it is nice to accept that something may have a soul and then in turn to be able to respect that. It's like the fact that banana's give off electrical pulses when you peel them, this equates to the Banana screaming. The whole Banana screaming thing did not make me believe everything had a soul, it was an example, i just believe it and can't explain it. It's difficult to explain as this such thing is often discredited :-k .

[goldphishies]

Decomposers may turn your flesh into energy, but your body has no energy left in it. And a soul is basically figurative for anyone that isn't Christian. And how is it illogical to force a soul the energy argument? That energy has to go somewhere, but where? If you are Christian, you believe to heaven. But it may just discharge into the air. Or, in rare cases, maintain a form, explaining ghosts. And if everything loses energy when it dies, than theoretically, they do have souls.

 

Quite sorry, but you sir have merited the :roll: emoticon, combined with a :ohnoes: with a fresh hint of :-s .

 

 

 

Do you understand the concept of bond energy being retained within the molecules of our body at all? Do understand how we use the energy from the food we eat? Take a biology class for Christ's sake, or rethink what you're saying for a second.

 

 

 

Please, for your own sake, listen in biology class when you take it. The energy is still in your body when you die.. in the ATP, in the sucrose, trigclycerides (sp?), in the cells... it's retained in the bond energy of every last molecule. Do you think that as soon as someone dies, *poof*, all the energy in their body is gone? Disregarding the fact that that's completely illogical in matters of physics... if that were true, how the heck would carnivores that kill their prey be able to survive? Why would decomposers eat our remains if there was no useable energy there?

 

 

 

Understand? The energy is still in your body when you die, in the nutrients, being used into your very last breath. It doesn't dissappear, it doesn't all just leave the body.

 

 

 

It's still in their, ready to be used in the Circle of Life. You've watched the Lion King, havn't you :P ?

 

 

 

You completely missed the point of my post...

 

You say ,"why would decomposers eat our remains if we have no energy left?"

 

Why do we eat food? It doesn't walk. It doesn't breathe. If I understood what you wrote, are humans, when they die, able to get up and walk away, if they still have energy? Are we just in a coma? We don't have to eat things alive to get energy. We process food into energy. They process us into energy. We don't have to have energy inside of us for other things to get energy from eating us.

 

Maybe you should reread my post, try and find my point, and then come back and flame me. :roll: :ohnoes: :-s

[Rebdragon]

You completely missed the point of my post...

 

You say ,"why would decomposers eat our remains if we have no energy left?"

 

Why do we eat food? It doesn't walk. It doesn't breathe. If I understood what you wrote, are humans, when they die, able to get up and walk away, if they still have energy? Are we just in a coma? We don't have to eat things alive to get energy. We process food into energy. They process us into energy. We don't have to have energy inside of us for other things to get energy from eating us.

 

Maybe you should reread my post, try and find my point, and then come back and flame me. :roll: :ohnoes: :-s

 

Ugh...

 

 

 

warri0r, anyone else want to cover this (especially that bolded part...)? My bluntness has caused him to block out anything I say at this point.

 

 

 

I'll just say this, in hopes that I might be heard out (hopefully the biological argument can get through better than the physics one): When animals eat things, they don't "process it into energy", they "transfer the energy into a useable source". For us humans (not sure the extent this goes to), that's ATP.

 

 

 

What we eat has energy already in it that we can use. We don't just "create the energy for it"- all we do is make the energy within it even more useful for our bodies (trigclycerides used for long term storage, sugar for short term, ATP gotten for immediate use through cellular respiration, etc.) Understand :| ?

 

 

 

I just don't get where you're getting the idea that the energy in our bodies just suddenly leaps out to form a soul...

 

 

 

I also believe everything has a soul,+1 on kelem_ryu for mentioning this as beliefs such as these often get shot down. :thumbsup: I also like the way you used words such as "maybe" and "may", as we do not know we can't prove it, but it is nice to accept that something may have a soul and then in turn to be able to respect that. It's like the fact that banana's give off electrical pulses when you peel them, this equates to the Banana screaming. The whole Banana screaming thing did not make me believe everything had a soul, it was an example, i just believe it and can't explain it. It's difficult to explain as this such thing is often discredited :-k .

 

If everything has a soul, then what matter goes to what soul?

 

 

 

Does every mountain have a soul, even though they're interconnected? Or does the whole mountain range have a soul? Or, since it's all just a big bump in the crust of the earth, is it just the earth that has a soul?

 

 

 

Again, I'm having trouble thinking how one can just "draw the lines" between groups of matter to decide which ones join up to contain a soul and which don't.

[look_its_rob]

I have two souls.

 

 

 

My own natural soul. and my friend wayne's soul which i bought off him for a quarter.

[crimsonking]

Asking someone to back up disbelief in something is a logically bankrupt task. The ususal chronology is that the claimant backs up the claim. Whether it's just as 'provable' or 'unprovable' for or against means nothing as I could just as easily ask you to back up disbelief in my assertion that exactly 1,234,223 special oranges orbit a supernatural planet made of 3 toed socks beyond the edges of the universe. But, of course, you don't need to do this because firstly, I'm the one making that assertion and believing it and if I demanded such a justified explanation for everything you disbelieve we'd be here for eternity because my imagination knows no limits.

 

 

 

Oh and what are the 'unproven theories' you're referring to, may I ask?

 

 

 

I never demanded an explanation for his disbelief, I merely said that I could just as easily ask for an explanation just as he did for the other guys belief, yet it would just come out the same way, even if its with science that you try to explain existance it still comes out the same as if you were trying to explain religion, the most you can do for either is give unproven theorys such as the big bang theory or the Christian theory of God.

 

 

 

I'm just saying there is no way to prove or disprove religion so there is no reason to get into an unnecessary fight over it and get these discussions banned again.

 

 

 

To me it would seem that life would be completly pointless if the minds we spent years to develop just ceased to exist once we died, so I would have to lean toward us having souls rather than not, of course there is always the possibility that life is pointless and we do cease to exist after death.

 

 

 

But the only way to truly know for sure at the moment is to die.

 

 

 

To me there is an important difference between mind and soul. I'd say mind is a construct that can dissolve and cease to exist. Soul or even more so "a soul" is some eternal essence. I have to admit though that i use both words without much thought of definition myself.

 

 

 

What I'm saying is that it just seems to be a waste gathering all the knowledge and wisdom throughout life if we just lose it all after death.

[kelem_ryu]

 

I also believe everything has a soul,+1 on kelem_ryu for mentioning this as beliefs such as these often get shot down. :thumbsup: I also like the way you used words such as "maybe" and "may", as we do not know we can't prove it, but it is nice to accept that something may have a soul and then in turn to be able to respect that. It's like the fact that banana's give off electrical pulses when you peel them, this equates to the Banana screaming. The whole Banana screaming thing did not make me believe everything had a soul, it was an example, i just believe it and can't explain it. It's difficult to explain as this such thing is often discredited :-k .

 

If everything has a soul, then what matter goes to what soul?

 

 

 

Does every mountain have a soul, even though they're interconnected? Or does the whole mountain range have a soul? Or, since it's all just a big bump in the crust of the earth, is it just the earth that has a soul?

 

 

 

Again, I'm having trouble thinking how one can just "draw the lines" between groups of matter to decide which ones join up to contain a soul and which don't.

 

 

 

I picture soul more like a flat surface of water and everything there is would be expressions of the ripples in the soul. People, like mountains are interconnected in some way to. You got families, cultures, states, .. all these entities have some distinct flavour. The cells in your body are all seperate, yet interconnected. Imo just because there is a surface like a cell membrane or the skin around our bodies, doesn't mean there is less interconnection.

 

 

 

If you listen to a piece of music, you can distinguish the different instruments, although their sound waves are all mixed up. You can concentrate on one instrument, or concentrate on the whole piece. You could say the guitar has a soul and is a part of the soul of the whole piece.

 

 

 

 

 

About the "screaming" Bananas: I didn't know they react to being pealed, but if they do, then i really don't believe they are screaming. I think bananas want to get eaten. So it's more likely to be excitement then screaming, like when you undress a woman. Bananas only exist to be eaten. Would be a shame if they wouldn't like it.

[Rebdragon]

I picture soul more like a flat surface of water and everything there is would be expressions of the ripples in the soul. People, like mountains are interconnected in some way to. You got families, cultures, states, .. all these entities have some distinct flavour. The cells in your body are all seperate, yet interconnected. Imo just because there is a surface like a cell membrane or the skin around our bodies, doesn't mean there is less interconnection.

 

 

 

If you listen to a piece of music, you can distinguish the different instruments, although their sound waves are all mixed up. You can concentrate on one instrument, or concentrate on the whole piece. You could say the guitar has a soul and is a part of the soul of the whole piece.

 

So, does that mean you believe everything is a part of a single universal soul, that everything is interconnected through it by the infinite connections that bind all of existence together?

[hellbellz]

So according to some of you...

 

 

 

 

"I have no soul"

[assassin_696]

You completely missed the point of my post...

 

You say ,"why would decomposers eat our remains if we have no energy left?"

 

Why do we eat food? It doesn't walk. It doesn't breathe. If I understood what you wrote, are humans, when they die, able to get up and walk away, if they still have energy? Are we just in a coma? We don't have to eat things alive to get energy. We process food into energy. They process us into energy. We don't have to have energy inside of us for other things to get energy from eating us.

 

Maybe you should reread my post, try and find my point, and then come back and flame me. :roll: :ohnoes: :-s

 

Ugh...

 

 

 

warri0r, anyone else want to cover this (especially that bolded part...)? My bluntness has caused him to block out anything I say at this point.

 

 

 

I'll give it a shot :)

 

 

 

goldphishies, what you just said kind of contradicts the law of conservation of energy. Animals that eat us when we're dead eat bits of us, muscles, tissue, organs etc. which are made up of lots of different cells, which act essentially as energy reserves (especially glucose). The animals eat us or the decomposers decompose us because they extract energy from our dead body. But if there's no tissue left, essentially if we're just a skeleton there's no way animals can get energy from us. Having energy inside us doesn't mean some mystical cosmic life-force, it's just simple energy reserves, a form of energy which will probably be chemical potential energy.

[The Real ET]

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To me it would seem that life would be completly pointless if the minds we spent years to develop just ceased to exist once we died, so I would have to lean toward us having souls rather than not, of course there is always the possibility that life is pointless and we do cease to exist after death.

 

 

 

But the only way to truly know for sure at the moment is to die.

 

 

 

Animals could have souls as well. Or planets for that matter. I do believe that planets and stars are beings and i think being a sun would feel awsome.

 

See, that's just thinking too much about mythology. I can understand the need to think we humans, who can feel empathy, have souls, but a burning mass of hydrogen :lol: ? That's pushing it.

 

 

 

And where do you draw a line for a soul in living organisms? Zebras? Rats? Flies? Bacteria? There is no line to be made. The logic of the concept is just... nonexistent. From a human perspective anyways :| .

 

 

 

I don't draw a line. Maybe soul is something inherent to anything. Maybe matter is just an expression of soul. A mountain may have soul to. It may also have consciouness.

 

 

 

Could it be? Yes, yes it is! References to paganist religions! I was waiting for this, just to see how people would react. Now kind sir or madam, I ask you to back up your claim, so we can turn it into a discussion point. Personally, I like talk about the old religions though I don't believe in any of them. =P

 

 

 

Why must he back it up? Hes expressing his belief, not ordering you to believe in it, I could just as easily ask you to back up your disbelief in religion, yet all you or anyone would be able to do is answer with unproven theorys, so I would advise you to not start a useless and unnecessary arguement, especially seeing as religious discussion has already been banned before due to them.

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I wasn't asking for an argument. :| I like discussing ancient religions and was simplly asking for a his reasoning so we could talk about. I don't want to discussion religion as much as the presence of a soul according to the religion (as that's what this topic is about).

[djo0]

I believe that I have a soul. It's what makes me more than just a really smart monkey. I also believe that it goes on existing after my human body dies. I suppose that's my Christian belifs coming in.

[flying_death_bombs55]

I think my soul died when I was 3 years old. (I actually died for like 5 minutes then they brought me back to life)

 

 

 

Edit: People with no souls would be like the homonculus from FMA(watch it), exept not immortal, or maybe immortal.......hmm...

[Lenin64]

About the "screaming" Bananas: I didn't know they react to being pealed, but if they do, then i really don't believe they are screaming. I think bananas want to get eaten. So it's more likely to be excitement then screaming, like when you undress a woman. Bananas only exist to be eaten. Would be a shame if they wouldn't like it.

 

Wow. um, bananas are not in existence to be eaten. Fruits are plant ovaries. they hold seeds. being eaten does help the seeds, but i dont think it would want to be eaten and be excited about it.

[Mithril_Max]

About the "screaming" Bananas: I didn't know they react to being pealed, but if they do, then i really don't believe they are screaming. I think bananas want to get eaten. So it's more likely to be excitement then screaming, like when you undress a woman. Bananas only exist to be eaten. Would be a shame if they wouldn't like it.

 

Wow. um, bananas are not in existence to be eaten. Fruits are plant ovaries. they hold seeds. being eaten does help the seeds, but i dont think it would want to be eaten and be excited about it.

 

 

 

remember the old slim jim commercials?

[warri0r45]

You completely missed the point of my post...

 

You say ,"why would decomposers eat our remains if we have no energy left?"

 

Why do we eat food? It doesn't walk. It doesn't breathe. If I understood what you wrote, are humans, when they die, able to get up and walk away, if they still have energy? Are we just in a coma? We don't have to eat things alive to get energy. We process food into energy. They process us into energy. We don't have to have energy inside of us for other things to get energy from eating us.

 

Maybe you should reread my post, try and find my point, and then come back and flame me. :roll: :ohnoes: :-s

 

Ugh...

 

 

 

warri0r, anyone else want to cover this (especially that bolded part...)? My bluntness has caused him to block out anything I say at this point.

 

 

 

I'll just say this, in hopes that I might be heard out (hopefully the biological argument can get through better than the physics one): When animals eat things, they don't "process it into energy", they "transfer the energy into a useable source". For us humans (not sure the extent this goes to), that's ATP.

 

 

 

What we eat has energy already in it that we can use. We don't just "create the energy for it"- all we do is make the energy within it even more useful for our bodies (trigclycerides used for long term storage, sugar for short term, ATP gotten for immediate use through cellular respiration, etc.) Understand :| ?

 

 

 

I just don't get where you're getting the idea that the energy in our bodies just suddenly leaps out to form a soul...

 

 

 

I also believe everything has a soul,+1 on kelem_ryu for mentioning this as beliefs such as these often get shot down. :thumbsup: I also like the way you used words such as "maybe" and "may", as we do not know we can't prove it, but it is nice to accept that something may have a soul and then in turn to be able to respect that. It's like the fact that banana's give off electrical pulses when you peel them, this equates to the Banana screaming. The whole Banana screaming thing did not make me believe everything had a soul, it was an example, i just believe it and can't explain it. It's difficult to explain as this such thing is often discredited :-k .

 

If everything has a soul, then what matter goes to what soul?

 

 

 

Does every mountain have a soul, even though they're interconnected? Or does the whole mountain range have a soul? Or, since it's all just a big bump in the crust of the earth, is it just the earth that has a soul?

 

 

 

Again, I'm having trouble thinking how one can just "draw the lines" between groups of matter to decide which ones join up to contain a soul and which don't.

 

 

 

I'll attack the bold. Yes, we do need energy for other organisms to get energy from eating us. Energy in the form of chemical bonds. Making and breaking these chemical bonds, especially the breaking of something like ATP, which Reb mentioned, converts energy into a usable form.

 

 

 

By the way ATP is used by all organisms, to answer your query. Neat, huh? :wink: Another little interesting fact is that ATP is basically the nitrogenous base Adenine (found in DNA as one of the four letters of the code life, of course) with extra phosphate groups and a pentose sugar attatched, probably hence why all organisms use it (as they of course all use the same genetic code).

[THEMASKEDMAN52]

or do you think you are just some random makeup of physical cells, that there is nothing more to you than a biological brain, and that when you die you will cease to exist?

 

 

 

Summed it up pretty much right there. No, I do not believe I have a soul.

[warri0r45]

Asking someone to back up disbelief in something is a logically bankrupt task. The ususal chronology is that the claimant backs up the claim. Whether it's just as 'provable' or 'unprovable' for or against means nothing as I could just as easily ask you to back up disbelief in my assertion that exactly 1,234,223 special oranges orbit a supernatural planet made of 3 toed socks beyond the edges of the universe. But, of course, you don't need to do this because firstly, I'm the one making that assertion and believing it and if I demanded such a justified explanation for everything you disbelieve we'd be here for eternity because my imagination knows no limits.

 

 

 

Oh and what are the 'unproven theories' you're referring to, may I ask?

 

 

 

I never demanded an explanation for his disbelief, I merely said that I could just as easily ask for an explanation just as he did for the other guys belief, yet it would just come out the same way, even if its with science that you try to explain existance it still comes out the same as if you were trying to explain religion, the most you can do for either is give 1) unproven theorys such as the big bang theory or 2) the Christian theory of God.

 

 

 

3) I'm just saying there is no way to prove or disprove religion so there is no reason to get into an unnecessary fight over it and get these discussions banned again.

 

 

 

 

1) Theories don't get proven, they explain facts and work as systems of explanation incorporating evidence. The more evidence, the more tests done on hypotheses regarding that evidence, the stronger the theory. Theories will never become facts. Based on what I know, the big bang theory is a fairly decent one, but best to ask someone more knowlegable just to be safe.

 

 

 

2) There's no such thing; that's not a theory. Unless, of course, you use the everyday use of the word theory, that being 'guess or conjecture.' The big bang theory is at least much more than guess or conjecture.

 

 

 

3) You can certainly disprove literally interpreted aspects of some religions. Once they gel into the natural world, they are up for scientific scrutiny like any other idea. But, the purpose of scientific theories is not to disprove a religion, and anyone who thinks something like the big bang theory proves there is no god, they're kidding themselves.

[The Real ET]

3) You can certainly disprove literally interpreted aspects of some religions. Once they gel into the natural world, they are up for scientific scrutiny like any other idea. But, the purpose of scientific theories is not to disprove a religion, and anyone who thinks something like the big bang theory proves there is no god, they're kidding themselves.

 

 

 

The post I'm making is incredibly off-topic, but exactly!

 

 

 

Why can't the religious people just say, "Okay that's how it works, but God made it that way and he's the one behind it all."

 

 

 

And why don't the scientists realize that their theories, laws, and conjectures don't disprove the existance of a high power?

 

 

 

It would make things so much easier... >.<

[Cars066]

I believe that I am essentially a bunch of cells but have attained a level of self awareness (like all humans) and that I can improve others lives and the planet, and have a fun and great life full of joy. Being an atheist, i can find the thought of no afterlife kind of depressing but the things i say to myself are "i will live on in my kids and their memories" (whenever i have kids lol) and "i will improve the planet for the better so future genorations can live in peace" and finally, as of now, "i'll cross that bridge when i come to it." :)