Ichimaru Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Do you think you have a soul, some sort of essence, or do you think you are just some random makeup of physical cells, that there is nothing more to you than a biological brain, and that when you die you will cease to exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Do you think you have a soul, some sort of essence, or do you think you are just some random makeup of physical cells, that there is nothing more to you than a biological brain, and that when you die you will cease to exist? The thing is I know the latter but I don't know the former. The bold are the points I'd dispute, though. The former bold point because it's not true and the latter bold point because I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichimaru Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 How come you don't know? If you believe you have no soul, you cease to exist when your body dies. If you think you continue to exist, then it means you believe you are something more than just a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Well, so far as evidence has been given to me, I'll say we're just cells and chemical reactions. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 i believe we have souls you see when we die our soul is realease from its host to find a new host you wont have any past memories of your last host but hey you get to spend another 9 months in yor mother tummy area :D :) :( :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperClipsYaaaar Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 How come you don't know? If you believe you have no soul, you cease to exist when your body dies. If you think you continue to exist, then it means you believe you are something more than just a body. Of course he doesn't know. No one knows. The only way you will ever know whether people have souls is by testing it yourself - by dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedofsound Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I have no soul, I live for but one purpose, to kill. Rofl, Gara. You can't ever find a place that's nice and peaceful, because there isn't any. You may think there is, but once you get there, when you're not looking, somebody'll sneak up and write "(bleep) you" right under your nose. Try it sometime. I think, even, if I ever die, and they stick me in a cemetery, and I have a tombstone and all, it'll say "Holden Caulfield" on it, and then what year I was born and what year I died, and then right under that it'll say "(bleep) you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichimaru Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 How come you don't know? If you believe you have no soul, you cease to exist when your body dies. If you think you continue to exist, then it means you believe you are something more than just a body. Of course he doesn't know. No one knows. The only way you will ever know whether people have souls is by testing it yourself - by dying. Duh. I'm asking for your opinion, or the thread would end with "I don't know". :roll: Do you think you have a soul Do I even need to mention this? This is not complicated to understand, stop making me lose my time to go back to kindergarden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 How come you don't know? If you believe you have no soul, you cease to exist when your body dies. If you think you continue to exist, then it means you believe you are something more than just a body. It's a matter of belief, not a matter of knowns. That's my opinion. I tend not to have opinions (more so on matters unknowable) but to challenge others to think. I prefer knowing things and accept when a matter is unknowable. But, I'm alway keen as to why people have the opinions they do. I don't care what side you take, I'm keen to hear your justification for having that opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andufusthebronze Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yes. One "evidential" discovery is called 22 grams. No matter how much you way, or who you are, young, old, tall, short, fat, thin, man, woman, black, white. When you die, you lose 22 grams. Scientists can't explain it. I believe in the soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichimaru Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 No warrior, "justifications" for opinions would turn this into a flame war, you know this. Just let people say their opinion and be. Besides no "justifications" stand here, we're all alive! : By that I mean, why argue on something we can never prove? Pointless, and ends in flames. :notalk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yes I believe I've got a soul. No doubt about it, we've all got a part of us that will live forever, in an afterlife. That being my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yes. One "evidential" discovery is called 22 grams. No matter how much you way, or who you are, young, old, tall, short, fat, thin, man, woman, black, white. When you die, you lose 22 grams. Scientists can't explain it. I believe in the soul Okay, I'm going to need to see some scientific sources on that. That's a new one on me. Though, twenty two grams seems like little more than some calculation error, whether accidental or done on purpose. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 No warrior, "justifications" for opinions would turn this into a flame war, you know this. Just let people say their opinion and be. Besides no "justifications" stand here, we're all alive! : I was talking more generally, but I understand. Perhaps you could PM me your justification if you'd like. I'm not the kind to flame you for believing in something at all but I'll probably ask 'why' a lot to challenge the core essence of why you think the way you do. And andufusthebronze, that's a very interesting phenomenon. Perhaps you could link me to where you heard it? I'll do a google in the meanwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperClipsYaaaar Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 How come you don't know? If you believe you have no soul, you cease to exist when your body dies. If you think you continue to exist, then it means you believe you are something more than just a body. Of course he doesn't know. No one knows. The only way you will ever know whether people have souls is by testing it yourself - by dying. Duh. I'm asking for your opinion, or the thread would end with "I don't know". :roll: And Warrior and I's opinion is that "we don't know." Are you only accepting certain opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichimaru Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 How come you don't know? If you believe you have no soul, you cease to exist when your body dies. If you think you continue to exist, then it means you believe you are something more than just a body. Of course he doesn't know. No one knows. The only way you will ever know whether people have souls is by testing it yourself - by dying. Duh. I'm asking for your opinion, or the thread would end with "I don't know". :roll: And Warrior and I's opinion is that "we don't know." Are you only accepting certain opinions? Lol. Stop arguing over stupid things like this, I bet you have fairy odd parents to watch :roll: . And btw, "We don't know" is not an opinion, it's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yes. One "evidential" discovery is called 22 grams. No matter how much you way, or who you are, young, old, tall, short, fat, thin, man, woman, black, white. When you die, you lose 22 grams. Scientists can't explain it. I believe in the soul probably water lost from your body. Maybe, i don;t know. Do I believe in the soul? no. not at all. Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapical Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yes. One "evidential" discovery is called 22 grams. No matter how much you way, or who you are, young, old, tall, short, fat, thin, man, woman, black, white. When you die, you lose 22 grams. Scientists can't explain it. I believe in the soul Okay, I'm going to need to see some scientific sources on that. That's a new one on me. Though, twenty two grams seems like little more than some calculation error, whether accidental or done on purpose. First off, it's 21 grams, taken from the movie of the same name. Second off, one doctor tested this on like 6 patients, so saying "EVERYONE OF ANY COLOR AND SIZE AND RACE AND FATTNESS AND ETHNICITY AND SEXUAL PREFERENCE" seems a bit extreme. Thirdly, I call shenanigans. A person dying goes through a lot of stuff, neurotransmitters are firing, muscles are converting sugars to energy, you are sweating, etc. Most notable, when you die you totally exhale. I believe a lung full of air and water moisture suddenly exhaling can toss the scale those few grams. Also I thought we all agreed the soul is just that, a soul. A soul is meta-physical, and thus should have no mass. If something has mass it is made of atoms and thus is in the realm of science and is bound by the laws of science. In other words, if the soul has mass and we put the body in a plastic bag before the person dies... then the soul would be trapped in the plastic bag I'm pretty sure mankind has come to the understanding that the soul is not made of atoms, ergo, it cannot have mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba_009 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I do, for no paticular reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapical Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Amoeba_009... that name sounds really familiar. Were you on Scapeboard by any chance or do I know you from somewhere? :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex85 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 And btw, "We don't know" is not an opinion, it's the truth. If you think one thing is true, is that not your opinion? My opininion? I don't know. I don't have enough knowledge of it. There's no evidence for life after death, but nothing against it either. I guess it's just a matter of faith. It really has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yeah, I believe in a soul. But I also believe it is non-physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichimaru Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 And btw, "We don't know" is not an opinion, it's the truth. If you think one thing is true, is that not your opinion? None here are not dead yet, we don't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flametrooper Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Do I? Well, I don't know. I sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba_009 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Amoeba_009... that name sounds really familiar. Were you on Scapeboard by any chance or do I know you from somewhere? :-s Maybe you know me from somewhere? >.< Try and think. Im a bunch of harry potter forums too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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