The abortion debate

[jackalope14]

 

 

 

 

not all people who get prgrent want to. Maybe the condom broke? Or the pill didn't work. You can't expect people who don't want babys to be abstinence, sex is part of human nature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

then you live with the consequences...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the only times that can even justify abortion is if the mother's life will be in jeopardy during the birth, or if the child was conceived through non consentual means.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you, so what if the condom broke, its thier fault anyway for having sex

[jackalope14]

 

 

i think that abortion is by choice also. But i would incourage a poor family to abort their child. Because alot of poor people have lots of kids that they cannot feed. When u have a kid that you cannot feed thatas crazy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*sigh* Its called adoption for the 50 millionth time mentioned in thie thread. :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

abort = another term for abortion :idea:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I said adoption

[HugATree]

I wish that those who are for abortion where aborted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An abortion clinic bomber in the making.

[Usara]

They have clinics for this crap? Talk about stooping to the levels of the Nazis.

[Lionheart_0]

lets not drag world war 2 into this. UMMM very intreasting since i last post. i dont know what to wright now, i was gonna write something, but i forgot...

[Usara]

Nothing to do with world war 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The nazis treated jews as sub-human, exactly what pro-aborters are treating human foetuses.

[NorthernHero]

Ok, everyone against abortion, think that youre raped or 15 years old. Would you really keep that child? Even if you would gave it to adobtion it would be hard and you had to carry it 9 months in your belly and born it.

 

 

 

I can understand it may sound like a murder... But think if it would happen to you and you would not be allowed to abort. Lets think that 15 years old, she still has her whole life ahead but it will be all ruined if she has to be mother and she is not even ready to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And lets not forget that earth has already too much people on it..

[Lionheart_0]

AND ABORTION IS NOT A PART OF HUMAN NATURE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmmm do you know what human nature is??? well human nature is very distructive. we will go to large ranks to protect what we love. even if we must kill eachother. we are like pure hatred. so what is Abortion. nothing more then dystroying another life. which i human nature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but what is not human nature is a mother not wanting her child. if a mother does not want her child, ther must be large pyscological (SP?) reasons.

[Usara]

Put the baby up for adoption?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Being raped gives you the right to murder an innocent being?

[Stephanie]

Well.. I think you can't really decide if you are pro or anti abortion unless you are in the position of being pregnant or having a pregnant gf.. unplanned ofcourse. You might be against it but if there is no other way? Caring a baby for 9 months, giving birth to it and then hearing it cry.. that doesn't make you want to give it up, now does it? then it is easier to abort it, because then it's not a ''real'' baby for most people, and it wont be so hard giving it up. And you also avoid lawsuits when the biological mother suddenly wants her child back because she now is in the financial or mental state to take care of it. Oh well.. *shrug* It's everyone's own opinion.

[Lionheart_0]

here is a special case i jsut want to put past all of you (Im sorta neautral on the whole subject now).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok a few years ago this girl got raped and got pragnet. wanna know how old she was. 9 years old. nine and she had a baby. The government wouldnt let her get an aboriton. but seriously, i think this was the only time that it would be made right. the girl is nine, and about to give birth. thats wrong.

[Usara]

A girl giving birth at 9? I thought that was not possible.

[Mercifull]

Nothing to do with world war 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The nazis treated jews as sub-human, exactly what pro-aborters are treating human foetuses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I cant belive you said that. Just because im not a christian listening to its stupid old views, belive that its a persons chouice how they wish to live their lives rather than by a book you are basicly calling me a Nazi.

[Lionheart_0]

A girl giving birth at 9? I thought that was not possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its very possible. as soon as the girl first gets her period (Im a guy, but i learn alot from my g/f) she can get pragent. girsl as young as 8 are geting their periods. so.... what is your oppionon on that?

[NorthernHero]

 

A girl giving birth at 9? I thought that was not possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its very possible. as soon as the girl first gets her period (Im a guy, but i learn alot from my g/f) she can get pragent. girsl as young as 8 are geting their periods. so.... what is your oppionon on that?

 

 

 

Yeah but most likely she would fail to give birth to that child and its be dangerous to her and the baby too.

[Usara]

 

Nothing to do with world war 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The nazis treated jews as sub-human, exactly what pro-aborters are treating human foetuses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I cant belive you said that. Just because im not a christian listening to its stupid old views, belive that its a persons chouice how they wish to live their lives rather than by a book you are basicly calling me a Nazi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im an athiest, and I dont think I mentioned the bible anywhere in my post. I agree with your point, but you are being hypocritical in the fact that you will not give a foetus a choice on wheather they want to live or not.

[jackalope14]

Ok, everyone against abortion, think that youre raped or 15 years old. Would you really keep that child? Even if you would gave it to adobtion it would be hard and you had to carry it 9 months in your belly and born it.

 

 

 

I can understand it may sound like a murder... But think if it would happen to you and you would not be allowed to abort. Lets think that 15 years old, she still has her whole life ahead but it will be all ruined if she has to be mother and she is not even ready to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And lets not forget that earth has already too much people on it..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So lets take away a life because some one got rapped, great idea!!! Its call adoption for the 5,000,001th time in this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the earth is to populated? Ok lets go out on the streets and start shooting people

[jackalope14]

here is a special case i jsut want to put past all of you (Im sorta neautral on the whole subject now).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok a few years ago this girl got raped and got pragnet. wanna know how old she was. 9 years old. nine and she had a baby. The government wouldnt let her get an aboriton. but seriously, i think this was the only time that it would be made right. the girl is nine, and about to give birth. thats wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is wrong because it might put the girls life in danger. Then You should consider abortion. (if thats even a true story)

[Lionheart_0]

i swear it is true on my life. it was in the newspaper about 3 years ago (This is in canada). But i dont think i would put her life in danger. becsase if a girl can have her period, it means that her body is fully ready to take pregnancy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmm nothing was ever posted in the newspaper after that.

[frogact]

, think that youre raped or 15 years old. Would you really keep that child?

 

 

 

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I would not keep the baby. I would allow a loving couple who is unable to have children of their own to adopt him or her. It would be much harder to heal from a rape knowing that I, in turn, had murdered a child.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go to any public place and shoot any child between the eyes. Thats what i think abortion is. No difference.

[HugATree]

 

Ok, everyone against abortion, think that youre raped or 15 years old. Would you really keep that child? Even if you would gave it to adobtion it would be hard and you had to carry it 9 months in your belly and born it.

 

 

 

I can understand it may sound like a murder... But think if it would happen to you and you would not be allowed to abort. Lets think that 15 years old, she still has her whole life ahead but it will be all ruined if she has to be mother and she is not even ready to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And lets not forget that earth has already too much people on it..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So lets take away a life because some one got rapped, great idea!!! Its call adoption for the 5,000,001th time in this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've got a better idea, let people like you run other peoples lives.

[Lionheart_0]

 

, think that youre raped or 15 years old. Would you really keep that child?

 

 

 

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Go to any public place and shoot any child between the eyes. Thats what i think abortion is. No difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it comes down to the thing about the mind and boddy again. if you abort a child. its body is alive, but its mind is not. if you kill a child even if its like 8 monthes old, it has gained experiance, and knowledg. becase of this, you have killed the actule thing that makes use alive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As i said before, im neautruel. im just saying waht i think about these otherthings.

[Romeoteddybear]

They have clinics for this crap? Talk about stooping to the levels of the Nazis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like I said before..whether it's illegal or not. There are plenty of ways to kill a baby or make it stillborn. Even before the clinics were there people would do abortions themselves. The government and private practices provide this clinic so people don't get themselves killed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And again..for all those people who think abortion is murder. Guess what..first you have to define what life is before you can define murder. And everyone has a differnet opinion about what life is (especially during the trimester stages) so while you might call it murder. All your proving is that you think it's murder, but guess what again? It may not be because someone else may think a living thing must have a brain and react!

[frogact]

 

 

 

it comes down to the thing about the mind and boddy again. if you abort a child. its body is alive, but its mind is not. if you kill a child even if its like 8 monthes old, it has gained experiance, and knowledg. becase of this, you have killed the actule thing that makes use alive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As i said before, im neautruel. im just saying waht i think about these otherthings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you abort a child. its body is alive, but its mind is not. .

Have you any evidentiary support of that claim? And even if it were true, are you now saying that it's ok to kill children who cant gain experience and knowledge because of brain disorders? or go into hospitals and pull the plugs of the life support systems keeping comatosed patients alive? because their minds arent gaining experience?? Can we then say that it's ok to kill institutionalized who have psychosis of some nature or another, because, after all, they are not gaining experience inthe real world? then is it ok to kill children who were born to teenagers and are having a hard life because there parents really never wanted them in the first place? what kind of experience is that? Where does it stop and who gets to decide? Would you be ok if your mother had excercised her right to abort you? but o wait, you'd be dead. Why is it all about the mother's body. Lets ask the children what they would prefer. But they cant talk yet, so i guess it's ok to kill them. :roll:

[Lionheart_0]

hmmm as i said before, now im against abortion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmm must not be able to read....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only reason i dont like it is becase it is a potentol life. and it could do something to draticly change human kind. thats the only reason though.