The best PC-games ever created.

[indy500fan]

 

 

 

 

FFVII is definitely the most overrated game of all time. OF ALL TIME!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now why would the game that spawned the majority of the millions of Final Fantasy fans be any good?

 

 

 

Why would the single most innovative game visually for its time be any good?

 

 

 

Why would a game that had cinematic scenes years ahead of its time be any good?

 

 

 

Why would a game with one of the most innovative and enthralling soundtracks ever be any good?

 

 

 

Why would a game with a plot good enough to make grown men cry over a characters death be any good?

 

 

 

Why would a game good enough to have a feature length movie made out of it be any good?

 

 

 

Why would a game with possibly the best re-play value of any RPG ever be any good?

 

 

 

The real question is why on Earth trolls like you would say anything remotely bad about one of the best RPG's ever made?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He didn't say the game sucked. He said it was just overrated. Keep your undies on plx.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No he did not say "FF VII sucks" but it was implied. Saying a good game is over-rated implies that it is an average or bad game, neither of which in any way apply to FF VII.

 

 

 

I guess he didn't know there was a fanboy in the house. It's his opinion, respect it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yep, its my opinion also. i hated the game, and FFVIII.

[Evil_Elf]

No I didn't imply it was a bad game. Overrated != Bad

[trapical]

FFVII is definitely the most overrated game of all time. OF ALL TIME!

 

 

 

I beg to differ. Although it does seem like any 'ol Joe changes his internet name to "Sephy" or has Cloud in their sig.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like FF7 for several reasons:

 

 

 

-Materia System - Its great how you can get a new character and he has all the spells your other guys have. You don't have to waste hours just teaching magic to the characters you don't use often (FF6 anyone?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Chocobo breeding - Chocobos are cool, and now you can personally take care of 3D ones and feed them and stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Red XIII - What other RPG has a talking "dog" as a main character, but its still a serious game? I love his attitude when he talks to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-A main character dies forever. Thats almost unheard of in RPGs(Tella in FF2 is the only other one I recall, but Aeris's death is different because its in 3D, you get to like her, and its utterly unexpected)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Great plot Its intricate and complex. You learn about it piece by piece, as you play more you learn more and more about the charter's pasts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Sephiroth - Voted the coolest baddie by GameFaqs, the man speaks for himself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Music - Just to name one, Cosmo Canyon done in piano is undescribable in words. When I first heard it 3 months ago I was instantly filled with memories of RedXII's story and sacrifice. It may sound corny but I acutally play though the game once more after hearing that song.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Granted, while games like Chrono Trigger and FF6 (aka FF3) have a special place in my heart, I simply love FF7. Also realize the game was made 8 years ago and the FMVs are still great quality. Overratted by some? Yes. Is FF7 a great game? Yes, and it happens to be on my top 3 favorite PC games.

[Zeldafreek]

*snip*

 

 

 

I guess he didn't know there was a fanboy in the house. It's his opinion, respect it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For me to be a fanboy that would imply that I like anything with the FF tag on it, far from true. FF X-2 was a pile of trash that I will never respect as a game and I have literally wiped my [wagon] with it, FF IV, V, and XI were nothing too great either.

[pedm]

Civilation 3 - Basically a turn based strategy game where you control your own countrya nd negotiate with others and stuff like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Worms World Party - You basically control a bunch of worms and have to blow up/kill/anything else violent to another set of worms or complete a misson in single player form.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rise of Nations - Somewhat a cross between Age of Mythology or Empire Earth and Civilation 3.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PDM

[Simmias]

:shock:

 

 

 

I thought rise of nations was a terrible game :shock:

 

 

 

The controls are horrible :(

[KakashiX]

hmm..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Starcraft : Broodwars - I think this game is Blizzard's most successful game as of yet. It came out in 1998ish and it's still going strong. I must say, probably my favorite game of all time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quake 1 - The FPS that I actually played for a while (had played duke nukem 3d previously, but the multiplayer option wasn't too impressive.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not PC games, but--

 

 

 

Phantasy Star 4 - Probably my favorite game on Genesis. The game had a really good plot, and just really fun gameplay. Not to mention the fact it was really good for its time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Earthbound - Most unique game ever. The only thing I didn't like about it was the fact you dont see anything in the battle scenes cept the monsters, but the game itself was awesome. I loved the graphics personally :P

[Uldric]

Hello All,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For my 3 games I chose the Thief series, Commandos and RollerCoaster Tycoon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thief 1 & 2: Wow, this game is absolutely amazing! I am yet to play #3 yet as I don't think it sticks close enough to Looking Glass's style of play. This game had a different type of action compared to other fps. It has even had another genre named after it: First Person Sneaker. :lol: . Beautiful movies after every level and a great storyline aswell as enough action to satisfy you, this is truly the greatest game series ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Commandos 1: A game where you had to think ahead of time and plan everything maticulously. Very very VERY hard even on the easiest of levels. Each level would take more than a few hours to complete and you would always get a great sensation of kicking Nazi butt :P . Spectacular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RollerCoaster Tycoon 1+: I've owned this game for a long time and I always seem to come back to it. Something about building massive rollercoasters really gets to me. I've played this series and beaten most of them except for maybe #3. Another stunner of a game! :lol:

[Turbobart]

Dark Earth: One of the most underrated games ever. The storyline, the graphics, the atmosphere, everything held me in a grip for a while.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Age of Empires 2: IMO the best game Mircosoft ever made.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rollercoaster Tycoon: Chris Sawyer did a wonderful job on this one. I played it hours and hours.

[Korla]

ok ok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Make way villain, Hero coming through!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes yes, Baldur's Gate 1, every Minsc comment Iread makes me teary-eyed. Aaaah, the good old days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who can forget Morte, Annah, Vhailor, Dakkon...ofcourse, it's the undisputed Planescape: Torment. For those of you pansys out there who haven't played it, do so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And something which isn't quite as heavy...hmm, lets see, Settlers II or Worms 2? Aaah, both got me into computer gaming, can't choose...both. Wasn't it Worms 2 with those cutel ittle cinematics? Between loading the games...probably took as long to load them as it took to load the game hehe...and Settlers II cause...it's just so much fun.

[Archer003]

all the command and conquer seris games ( except renagade) they are the best games in my opinion for pc, they are fun and u can play em online :D

[Azvareth]

Tribes 2: Probably the best multiplayer FTP I've ever played. There's so much to it, not just the usual "point and shoot"; teamplay is a such a vital part of it, and it makes about 80% of the game. If I hadn't start lagging, it would undoubtedly take years before I stopped playing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neverwinter Nights (original): Without a doubt one of the best RPGs I've played. The quests, storyline and its "history" is so deep, thoroughly and simply great. I don't really approve of the action-system the game has though, it's too slow sometimes (took me about 3+ hours to kill the boss in the "Shadows of the Underdark" exp. set)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

// Azvi.

[Metal_Master]

Baldur's Gate I

 

 

 

Baldur's Gate II: The Shadows of Amn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On gamingrankings.com:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BG2 is the #4 top PC game, BG1 is #8. BG2 is also the #1 PC RPG, with BG as #2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemranking ... atings.asp

 

 

 

Set the platform to PC.

[Pete_the_Viscous]

(*NOTE: if these images I'm going to post are annoying people, get a mod to remove them, or tell me to.*)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah... if only Baldur's Gate one had been remade using all the new stuff from Baldur's Gate two; as with the old Half-Life being remade in the new one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also: ah..... if only Baldur's Gate 2 had been bigger. I know it's big, and each time I've played through it I have actually found new sections that I didn't know existed. It's also a shame that one has to go through the lengthy opening dungeon (as with Planescape: Torment), which, whilst it was essential to the plot, was a bit tedious after the second time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 were two games that I thought acheived the correct ballance of open endedness v storyline; morrowind, on the other hand, whilst great (and with, admittedly, a good story) was a little too open in my oppinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll tell you one problem I noticed in BG2, though: if the protagonist is a mage or sorcerer, they start off with lower HP than they should, as the game assumes you're going to get a familiar. Unfortunately, the sorcered, in choosing "Find Familiar" as one of their lvl1 spells, loses out on another spell on that level, and can only cast the spell ONCE in the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

!!! I forgot to add X-Com: Apocalypse to my list. Silly me. That's one of my favorite games, certainly. This game had the perfect blend of tactics (which are still more complex than any game of its type to date) and... I don't know, lots of other things :). One thing about this game was that the graphics had that sort of quality that means they'll never look too old, just like old cartoons don't look bad: they're not meant to look totaly realistic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Three main parts, had the game:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) a city view, in which all sorts of things happened; the city was like a real city, with all the vehicles moving about and fights between gangs/police, etc. This could be viewed isometric like, or from an overhead map with symbols on. Day and night; futuristic buildings; parks; alien spaceships invading through dimension gates: what more could you want?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) another aspect was the base building feature. On this screen you saw maze of grey tunnel lines on which you could build base facilities, etc. There was really stategy involved here, too, as you needed to place the security stations next to the entrances, etc. I can't quite explain this part adequately, but it was good. From the same screen one could access the resource management aspect of the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were several screens to get to, including hire/fire (for in this series of games you need to have agents, scientists, and mechanics; that sort of thing); agent equipment; vehicles; vehicle equipment, amongst other things. One could customise SO MUCH on this game that it was amasing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, the "equip agent" type screens let you pu... dyaknow, I'm just going to post a few pics, as it's going to be all night if I keep trying to explain it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Buy the game now, I'd suggest. I can't believe I didn't mention this before (in retrospect, I probably did).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another game that showed a lot of potential, I thought, was Divine Divinity. What a good idea that was, and quite well executed... it's a pity that the problems were there. Anyone played Beyond Divinity and want to recomend it to me? I'm not sure it's going to be worth getting, on account of my problems with the first one, but I hear that it's been fixed, somewhat.

[Pyro]

 

 

 

Ah... if only Baldur's Gate one had been remade using all the new stuff from Baldur's Gate two; as with the old Half-Life being remade in the new one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also: ah..... if only Baldur's Gate 2 had been bigger. I know it's big, and each time I've played through it I have actually found new sections that I didn't know existed. It's also a shame that one has to go through the lengthy opening dungeon (as with Planescape: Torment), which, whilst it was essential to the plot, was a bit tedious after the second time.

 

 

 

There are mods that convert the Baldurs Gate I content to the Baldurs Gate II engine. Granted, it doesn't make use of it near as much as it could, but at least you'll get kits and better resolutions. The starting dungeon in Baldurs Gate II is a pain yeah, but the one in Planescape isn't that bad. It doesn't take more than 5-10 minutes to complete once you know how it's done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the familiar problem in BGII, there *are* familiar scrolls in the game you know. I believe the scroll merchant in the Promenade sells one :)

[Metal_Master]

I never actually played BG2...however, I believe that BG1 is the greatest PC/video game ever made, and with 150+ hours of gameplay, only 1 game can beat it: BG2, with over 300 hours. And yes, there are BG engine conversions. 8)

[Pete_the_Viscous]

I forget: can sorcerers use scrolls? Oh.... I thought, for a moment, that they couldn't use them at all, as opposed to just being unable to learn from them.

[Pyro]

I forget: can sorcerers use scrolls? Oh.... I thought, for a moment, that they couldn't use them at all, as opposed to just being unable to learn from them.

Yeah, they can. I usually pick Find Familiars as a 1st level spell in any case though, as I never seem to lack those even when playing as a solo sorcerer.

[Pete_the_Viscous]

:) Somewhat off topic but:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

one thing to try on BG2 is to be a bard. I always thought that they'd be carp, as they used to be on all the old games. Still, as they advance in levels the fastest and can cast such and such level mage spells, they can cast tenser's transformation... so it's like having an insanely high level fighter in your group.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, did you ever get the pickpocketting business to be worthwhile? It always seemed to go wrong for me.

[Pyro]

:) Somewhat off topic but:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

one thing to try on BG2 is to be a bard. I always thought that they'd be carp, as they used to be on all the old games. Still, as they advance in levels the fastest and can cast such and such level mage spells, they can cast tenser's transformation... so it's like having an insanely high level fighter in your group.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, did you ever get the pickpocketting business to be worthwhile? It always seemed to go wrong for me.

Bards aren't that bad, especially not in ToB once they their Improved Bard Song. Not quite the power of a sorcerer though ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yeah, pickpocketing is the easiest way to archieve limitless wealth. Head to Maevars Guild, buy all the potions of master thievery, use them to get 250% pickpocketing, steal everything in every store that can be pickpocketed. Then sell it to the merchant in the ordinary Thieves Guild. A cheesy way to get 100k gold. Beyond that extreme cheesyness, pickpocketing sucks. Oh yeah, you can pickpocket a ring of regeneration from Ribald which is incredibly usefull if you solo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enough Baldurs Gate talk though, we've gotten a bit too off-topic :)

[halo715]

I'm am behind World of Warcraft 99.9% .1% would be runescape

[Korla]

 

 

 

 

Ah... if only Baldur's Gate one had been remade using all the new stuff from Baldur's Gate two; as with the old Half-Life being remade in the new one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also: ah..... if only Baldur's Gate 2 had been bigger. I know it's big, and each time I've played through it I have actually found new sections that I didn't know existed. It's also a shame that one has to go through the lengthy opening dungeon (as with Planescape: Torment), which, whilst it was essential to the plot, was a bit tedious after the second time.

 

 

 

There are mods that convert the Baldurs Gate I content to the Baldurs Gate II engine. Granted, it doesn't make use of it near as much as it could, but at least you'll get kits and better resolutions. The starting dungeon in Baldurs Gate II is a pain yeah, but the one in Planescape isn't that bad. It doesn't take more than 5-10 minutes to complete once you know how it's done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the familiar problem in BGII, there *are* familiar scrolls in the game you know. I believe the scroll merchant in the Promenade sells one :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just one more BGII post, please! :oops:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hehe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a familiar scroll can be found in the de'Arnise keep, in the room behind where you smith the flail of ages...hehe, just one small thing I remember from those days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now, let this topic drift away in Halo- and CSness again...tetete

[Mr_Putter]

please don't name games like "Need for Speed 2!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other than "Battle Bugs" which I've never heard of, Need for Speed 2 came out before the games you mentioned. Since you probably meant Need For Speed Underground 2, I will just carry on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, Need For Speed 3: Hot Pursuit beats every single other racing game ever. It's got all the liscenced cars...And it doesn't comprimise fun for realism. There's some massive speeds, great handling on all cars, power-slides an every turn. I hate realistic racing games because I just don't find them fun. Half the time you can't get to full speed, and when you do get even close, you have to slow down to make a turn. Plus the cars don't go as fast. NFS3 had amazing maps, lots of shortcuts, great great fun, more fun than any other racing game I've ever played. NFS4: High Stakes was similar, a very close second.

[raven_gaurd0]

HAAAALO 3

[Kiriyama]

Nice Nerco-bump.

 

 

 

And Halo 3 is hardly the best PC game ever.