Still no love for thieving?

[kido14]

I admit, I haven't been a member for a good time, but I have been checking the updates in awhile, and to me it still seems thieving is one of the hardest to level stats (requires a ton of clicking at least, not sure on xp rates these days with that pyramid thing), and you get crap money from it too. On RSC it used to be beneficial as blood runes were about 2-3k ea and chaos were around 400 ea.

 

 

 

What is the benefit to thieving these days, if there is any? If there is none, why has Jagex neglected this skill since RS2 came out?

 

 

 

Just a little EDIT from my post on the 2nd page:

 

kay guys thanks a lot for the responses, even if some of them were childish and ignorant. I did read all of your posts, I just don't have the time or patience to respond to every single one, so thank you.

 

 

 

I'm not a new member, I just haven't been one for awhile and I was thinking about this earlier today. What better place to check to see if thieving had a use than here? I'm not going to go through every single update and read every single thread about thieving just to find out what the best methods are these days.

 

 

 

Actually I did know about PP, I just didn't realize how fast it was. Yea, it's fast as hell are those higher levels, but leading up to it has to suck. I personally had 75 thieving when RS2 came out and got 1 level since, on my main at least.

 

 

 

Anyways, you guys (with the exception of a few) are missing the main point. This thread is not about how thieving is a slow skill, like a lot of you seem to think for some reason. I think the flamers on this thread for some reason got all upset over that one point I made and completely ignored the rest of my topics. Oh well I tend to ignore these idiots for the most part anyways. This thread is about the USES of thieving. When I was P2P for the first time thieving was what I was most excited about, and it was actually rewarding on RSC. On here it has no use to make money, gather things, or combine materials into something else, like every other skill does. Sure you CAN make money from it, but it's completely worthless compared to the money you can make from other skills in the same amount of time.

 

 

 

I don't understand how Jagex didn't do anything to increase the rewards. Before thieving runes was quite profitable. Now on RS2 runes are only a fraction of the cost, yet Jagex kept the quantity of runes given the exact same. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

 

 

 

Sidenote: I guess I didn't realize sceptre was so expensive, seems overpriced. If they are as rare as you are saying though they don't really count for a decent source of money.

 

 

 

Just to clarify a little more

[nightshade53]

It's now just a fast 99, cool cape :)

 

 

 

The only use of it at a high level that I've come across if for accessing the chaos druids next to the bank in yanille (level 82 required).

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure I will have overlooked something though, as someone will point out :P

[wild_goat_14]

Well, I know someone who got 11 from 80-99, but I used a speed method and only got 3.(I didn't open many chests from 91-99, to save time).

 

 

 

Also, it is very rewarding with all of those gold items. To baad that thy are such a pain in the [wagon] to sell, and I probably never will sell them.

[jessy87]

Well, I know someone who got 11 from 80-99, but I used a speed method and only got 3.(I didn't open many chests from 91-99, to save time).

 

 

 

Also, it is very rewarding with all of those gold items. To baad that thy are such a pain in the [wagon] to sell, and I probably never will sell them.

 

 

 

 

 

11 is alot, however i have talked to other 99 theifs and they only had gotten 2 80-90 and none after. perhaps it was because of speed lvling but still. its not the easiest to get. and you only have 2 chances to get it per room, very rare in some cases.

 

 

 

edit: however i know he is incorrect about it being a slow skill, i agree it could have more things added to it. sure not ever skill can be smithing/construction where you do something every level but not every skill should be cooking/hunter. 1 or 2 main ways of doing things. theiving is, NPCs or PP and NPCs arent that great at all now. cooking? fish. if only they allowed you to make more of that stuff snake from Recipe. and honestly and theiving update would be nice. add more theivable NPCs better rewards as well.

[wild_goat_14]

Well, I know someone who got 11 from 80-99, but I used a speed method and only got 3.(I didn't open many chests from 91-99, to save time).

 

 

 

Also, it is very rewarding with all of those gold items. To baad that thy are such a pain in the [wagon] to sell, and I probably never will sell them.

 

 

 

 

 

11 is alot, however i have talked to other 99 theifs and they only had gotten 2 80-90 and none after. perhaps it was because of speed lvling but still. its not the easiest to get. and you only have 2 chances to get it per room, very rare in some cases.

 

 

 

It is very rare, and one of the two methods is really looked down upon(it puts enimies on someone else in the room) and the other one's chance is very rare. In room 8, a sceptre is probably about as rare as a Guthan's Spear from a barrows run. They are very hard to get.

 

 

 

PS>I got my sceptres at 83, 87, and 92. 81-91 are probably the best chance for sceptres if you swap to the speed method like most do.

[BBC3]

thieving is faster than cooking fletching and firemaking.

 

 

 

unless your doing some fast expensive method with fletching

[R_2_H]

Wow those picture responses are getting annoying...

 

 

 

Anyway, from my small experience in the skill (to lvl 51), it didn't seem like much of a profit to me either, but at lvl 61 you can pick up black scimmys in Ardy castle then sell for 10k ea in f2p. Pick up 10 and you've got yourself 100k if you do your trades right.

[Numer0_un0]

Ugh, trying to sell stuff in F2p is like trying to sell rune weapons in P2p. Just try it and see how far you get... :(

 

 

 

 

 

On-Topic... wow, flame war from post 3. :| I rather agree with the thread maker... 72 thieving, all from non-pyramid-plunder methods, and it is completely true that thieving is a pretty much useless skill. Sure, you can get your own blood runes or something from the blood chest at only 59 thieving, sure you can thieve your own natures at 42 thieving, sure! go ahead!... but Time is Money, and you can make more money merchanting or doing another skill to afford to buy however many runes you could have stolen in that period of time, and have plenty left over.

[Jabuli]

You can "easily" get 3m thieving exp in a day. Been there done that.

 

 

 

I think that's enough said.

 

 

 

/thread

[wild_goat_14]

thieving is faster than cooking fletching and firemaking.

 

 

 

unless your doing some fast expensive method with fletching

 

 

 

Not true. In Firemaking, Yews are slightly faster than Plunder, and Cooking Sharks is also faster, and Fletching used to be faster, but String X killed that.

 

 

 

Remember, Plunder xp is not constant. You can usually get in 10 runs in an hour, and that means they would have to average 20k xp per run, which isn't always easy to do. But in the other skills, xp is constant, not only that, but higher xp/hr rate than Plunder as well.

 

 

 

Plunder is easy, but when you call it easier then Cooking you are going too far.

 

 

 

PS>I have my experience in all of these skills(88 Fletch, 89 FM, 99 Cook/Thief) so I know what I am talking about.

[wild_goat_14]

You can "easily" get 3m thieving exp in a day. Been there done that.

 

 

 

I think that's enough said.

 

 

 

/thread

 

 

 

3mil xp/200k per hour

 

 

 

15 hours of non-stop plunder. Its possible, yet far from easy.

[R_2_H]

Ugh, trying to sell stuff in F2p is like trying to sell rune weapons in P2p. Just try it and see how far you get... :(

 

 

 

Oh, people definitely buy them. I know you're referring to f2p in general, but they're not hard to sell. In 2 hours of training I'd say at least 10-15 people are asking "buy ur scimmy 10k" when I have it equipped, and that's out of the blue.

[Peronix]

Although you're mistaken that thieving is still a hard skill to train, I completely agree that it is a skill that dosen't get too many good updates. The last update to thieving was the squirk thing; honestly, what good does that do? It might be fun trying to avoid the guard... things... but it dosen't seem like a practical way to make money.

 

 

 

I'd like to see some real tomb raiding that is like 10x more dangerous than PP, with traps everywhere... and GOOD rewards, which might include anything from a healthy sum of coins to some new unique items, that can be either very useful, or very aesthetically pleasing.

[kido14]

Okay guys thanks a lot for the responses, even if some of them were childish and ignorant. I did read all of your posts, I just don't have the time or patience to respond to every single one, so thank you.

 

 

 

I'm not a new member, I just haven't been one for awhile and I was thinking about this earlier today. What better place to check to see if thieving had a use than here? I'm not going to go through every single update and read every single thread about thieving just to find out what the best methods are these days.

 

 

 

Actually I did know about PP, I just didn't realize how fast it was. Yea, it's fast as hell are those higher levels, but leading up to it has to suck. I personally had 75 thieving when RS2 came out and got 1 level since, on my main at least.

 

 

 

Anyways, you guys (with the exception of a few) are missing the main point. This thread is not about how thieving is a slow skill, like a lot of you seem to think for some reason. I think the flamers on this thread for some reason got all upset over that one point I made and completely ignored the rest of my topics. Oh well I tend to ignore these idiots for the most part anyways. This thread is about the USES of thieving. When I was P2P for the first time thieving was what I was most excited about, and it was actually rewarding on RSC. On here it has no use to make money, gather things, or combine materials into something else, like every other skill does. Sure you CAN make money from it, but it's completely worthless compared to the money you can make from other skills in the same amount of time.

 

 

 

I don't understand how Jagex didn't do anything to increase the rewards. Before thieving runes was quite profitable. Now on RS2 runes are only a fraction of the cost, yet Jagex kept the quantity of runes given the exact same. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

 

 

 

Sidenote: I guess I didn't realize sceptre was so expensive, seems overpriced. If they are as rare as you are saying though they don't really count for a decent source of money.

[wild_goat_14]

You are absolutely right, but they will not do it. They are trying to drain money from the economy, so this would not work. If they made knights give double money, people would use them, including me. Thieving needs a use, and just doubling all pickpocketing rewards would be a great step.

[Freesia]

This thread is about the USES of thieving. When I was P2P for the first time thieving was what I was most excited about, and it was actually rewarding on RSC. On here it has no use to make money, gather things, or combine materials into something else, like every other skill does. Sure you CAN make money from it, but it's completely worthless compared to the money you can make from other skills in the same amount of time.

 

 

 

I don't understand how Jagex didn't do anything to increase the rewards. Before thieving runes was quite profitable. Now on RS2 runes are only a fraction of the cost, yet Jagex kept the quantity of runes given the exact same. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

 

This skill called Runecrafting didn't exist in RSC,now that it is present in RS2, it supplies the runes you get from high lvl thieving. :|

[Smithy93]

Ok if your not sure of Pyramid Plunder then please don't talk. =;

 

 

 

Theiving is now one of the most fastest 99 to get.

 

 

 

 

 

wow, your an [wagon].

 

 

 

No I'm just being honest. Once you unlock the 91 room it's a breeze from what 10 99s Theifs have told me.

 

 

 

No, I didn't report it. I could care less if you call me an "[wagon]."

 

 

 

Oh wow, 10 thieves! GOOD GOD WE BETTER LISTEN TO HIM! :ohnoes:

[Hasib]

kido14, i agree... I got 99 with PP but I have very little real use for the skill... I mean, it has its uses from time to time, but nothing major.

[wild_goat_14]

Oh wow, 10 thieves! GOOD GOD WE BETTER LISTEN TO HIM! :ohnoes:

 

 

 

He is right, Plunder is easy, but he was just being an [wagon] about it, so its hard to agree with him :?

[Pan_Nx]

To those who think Thieving is easier then fletching,fm,cooking, etc.: im hear to tell you your wrong, after about 80+ thieving plunder gets extremely old. It took me a good while to get 99 because it gets so boring. Sure you can get 3mil in a day, providing that you have 17+ hours to play rs and also you cant do anything else but play. I know alot of people who have gone for 99 thief, more then 75% quit before they got to 90, about two others quit in the 90s because it is so hard to continue.

 

 

 

I agree thieving should have more ways of making money.

[wild_goat_14]

To those who think Thieving is easier then fletching,fm,cooking, etc.: im hear to tell you your wrong, after about 80+ thieving plunder gets extremely old. It took me a good while to get 99 because it gets so boring. Sure you can get 3mil in a day, providing that you have 17+ hours to play rs and also you cant do anything else but play. I know alot of people who have gone for 99 thief, more then 75% quit before they got to 90, about two others quit in the 90s because it is so hard to continue.

 

 

 

I agree thieving should have more ways of making money.

 

 

 

And then there are maniacs who are considering plundering to 20mil xp... :P

[polybren]

Thieving is a favorite stat of mine. In fact, it was my very first 99 and I used to be #1 in the high scores. I got 99 back in classic by thieving Paladins but now, with pyramid plunder, it's just way too easy to get. Still the cape looks cool even if the emote is lame.

 

 

 

The only thing I ever use thief for now is just to pickpocket the occasional seed from the farmer. I agree, Jagex should really look at adding a few new updates for thief.

[Pan_Nx]

To those who think Thieving is easier then fletching,fm,cooking, etc.: im hear to tell you your wrong, after about 80+ thieving plunder gets extremely old. It took me a good while to get 99 because it gets so boring. Sure you can get 3mil in a day, providing that you have 17+ hours to play rs and also you cant do anything else but play. I know alot of people who have gone for 99 thief, more then 75% quit before they got to 90, about two others quit in the 90s because it is so hard to continue.

 

 

 

I agree thieving should have more ways of making money.

 

 

 

And then there are maniacs who are considering plundering to 20mil xp... :P

 

Haha your funny goat. :roll:

[jessy87]

thieving is faster than cooking fletching and firemaking.

 

 

 

unless your doing some fast expensive method with fletching

 

 

 

 

 

5 weeks was it for 80-99. uh define expensive? if expensive means making rune arrows/darts.

 

 

 

 

 

uular figured out you could do 70-99 in i think 2 days? but okay, that was perhaps a bit expensive. compared to the return. the way i did it, id say it was close to the same time and i made 5mil profit id say just from 94-99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are absolutely right, but they will not do it. They are trying to drain money from the economy, so this would not work. If they made knights give double money, people would use them, including me. Thieving needs a use, and just doubling all pickpocketing rewards would be a great step.

 

 

 

 

 

i was intrigued when i found out all the info about theiving orbs and stuff. then i realized how time consuming it would be not to mention to get them in first place... i thought wow perhaps a good trade off. then whoops no i was mistaken not that great.

 

 

 

honestly, GP theiving is not the way to go anymore, perhaps how paladins are(wtf do they give chaos rune for? they are mages) but double items for each thieving.

 

 

 

alrite lvl 95, thief monster (combat 63+) is aggressive and retreats. its aggresive to all players then. and requires a high lvl to thieve stealables? lets say.

 

200coins - 300coins

 

average: astral runes(1) law (1) mith dagger

 

very rare stolen goods: clue scroll throw that in their(lvl2) and genie lamps(half the exp as normal genie lamps)

[wild_goat_14]

Thieving does need an update though. Maybe if they thought up another method of Thieving and give it good rewards, more people would learn to enjoy the great skill.

 

 

 

I really like this topic, for once its one that I can relate to.