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If you are going to post a news topic, why wouldn't you comment on it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We have more than 300 million people in this country, but less than 1 percent of our population has to bear all of the burden, to make all of the sacrifices, to do all the fighting and all the dying for the rest of us," he said

 

 

 

Well if people don't want to make unnecessary sacrifices, then what does that tell you?'

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I don;t have to worry. I'm joining up anyways :D Yes, maybe a little hard to believe, but it's true

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I thought the justification for conscription was that the country was under a serious threat. Considering there is no reason to have to go into Iraq in the first place, and occupying it at the moment is due to the culmination of the United States governments appauling foreign policy over the past fifty years - There is no serious threat to the USA. Conscription to support a blunder is probably more criminal than the entering of Iraq in the first place. His speech made me feel nauseous. Another kick in the face for the country founded on Philosophy, i doubt this would ever get past the house of representatives.

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If you are going to post a news topic, why wouldn't you comment on it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We have more than 300 million people in this country, but less than 1 percent of our population has to bear all of the burden, to make all of the sacrifices, to do all the fighting and all the dying for the rest of us," he said

 

 

 

Well if people don't want to make unnecessary sacrifices, then what does that tell you?'

 

 

 

Because the only thought I have in the matter is "Well that sucks".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh man... Now there is gonna be a rush of Americans to Canada to escape the Draft.... :evil:

 

 

 

I doubt it. Don't worry, less than 13 months until lil' Bush gets out of office.. ah that sounds so nice :)

 

 

 

Last I checked bush wasn't incharge of the military.

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Last I checked bush wasn't incharge of the military.

 

 

 

I hope you're kidding :? The entire war started because of his conviction and 'messages from God' that he should enter this war to 'protect the american people'.

 

 

 

Yes, he is the commander-in-chief by law and all generals ultimately answer to him. He could drop an atomic bomb on Iraq if he wanted to, because it's a military resource. He doesn't need approval from the senate or congress to use a weapon.

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If you are going to post a news topic, why wouldn't you comment on it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We have more than 300 million people in this country, but less than 1 percent of our population has to bear all of the burden, to make all of the sacrifices, to do all the fighting and all the dying for the rest of us," he said

 

 

 

Well if people don't want to make unnecessary sacrifices, then what does that tell you?'

 

 

 

Because the only thought I have in the matter is "Well that sucks".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh man... Now there is gonna be a rush of Americans to Canada to escape the Draft.... :evil:

 

 

 

I doubt it. Don't worry, less than 13 months until lil' Bush gets out of office.. ah that sounds so nice :)

 

 

 

Last I checked bush wasn't incharge of the military.

 

 

 

 

 

He is. If he weren't, the military would have free reign to do whatever the Hell it wants. The President's called the "Commander in Chief" for a reason. Anyway, I think his point is the fact that we are so screwed over that we'd NEED a draft to finish this mess without causing the Middle East to explode (there's at least 2 Nuke-carrying nations over there, one of which being Israel, which most extremists/Nazi wannabes would like to see wiped off the map), with severe damage worldwide (Middle East=oil, oil=almost everything's base material/fuel). This is PRECISELY why I think W's a flipping idiot. <.<

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If there is ever a draft in the U.S. I'm staking my claim as a Canadian and the last to carry on my family name (that is a legal way to avoid a draft) to get the heck out of there. I like war games, but I'm a strategist and you can respawn on Fps, Paintball is fun and airsoft too but, real guns aren't my deal. I'm better with animals to protect and care for.

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If there is ever a draft in the U.S. I'm staking my claim as a Canadian and the last to carry on my family name (that is a legal way to avoid a draft) to get the heck out of there. I like war games, but I'm a strategist and you can respawn on Fps, Paintball is fun and airsoft too but, real guns aren't my deal. I'm better with animals to protect and care for.

 

 

 

Not that avoiding war isn't a good survival strategy, but I'm very surprised at the attitudes of people here.

 

 

 

If there was a military draft I wouldn't really even give a second thought to 'fleeing the country' if I could make the slightest difference in making a hostile power reconsider their actions against my country.

 

 

 

Not that the Iraq or Afghanistan wars have a particularly strong meaning anyways. I don't even know what the heck NATO is doing in Afghanistan other than desperately trying to stop them from exporting heroin (which has so far been a miserable failure since the crops and exports increase every year by nearly 100%)

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I don't know why these politicians are floating these rumors out there and scaring people.

 

 

 

The last guy who introduced a bill to do this voted against it himself. Go figure?

 

 

 

A little off topic but here's a quote from a friend who recently came home from Iraq.

 

 

 

...the american media likes to make the war out to be something completely different from what it is for most of us. Yes, there are guys out there getting shot at every single day, and we pray for their safety and do what we can to make sure they have everything the could possibly need, but for most of us... well, it's different.
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Theres no way I'm joining the war on Iraq. I would consider a draft if it was actually a war worth fighting but I can't stand the war in Iraq, its useless and terrible.

 

 

 

So, what are you going to do, tough guy? Have fun being imprisoned.

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I don't know why these politicians are floating these rumors out there and scaring people.

 

 

 

The last guy who introduced a bill to do this voted against it himself. Go figure?

 

 

 

A little off topic but here's a quote from a friend who recently came home from Iraq.

 

 

 

...the american media likes to make the war out to be something completely different from what it is for most of us. Yes, there are guys out there getting shot at every single day, and we pray for their safety and do what we can to make sure they have everything the could possibly need, but for most of us... well, it's different.

 

 

 

A lot of the troops I talk to are very proud of the work they did in Iraq. We may not have gone for what we said for, but we did remove a tyrant for power. A female marine I knew from high school was a drill sergeant helping train the new Iraqi army, and she noticed that there was a large amount of women joining up. They are excited that they have the freedoms to do so, and the Iraqi army is almost to a level where it can support itself.

 

 

 

We just have to be patient, and the US can be out of Iraq in a few years. Al Queda terrorism in Iraq is dropping heavily (most of the current stuff is ethnic infighting or terrorists from Iran or Syria instigating crap). Afghanistan is a different story, because Al Queda is dug in.

 

 

 

What I would like to see is the UN sending in Blue Hats to do security. Surely such a noble peacekeeping force would not be killed in cold blood by insurgents.

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I'm with Wakka. I wouldn't join the army for a pointless war. We need to help ourselves before we can help others. :?

 

 

 

Do you not understand what conscription is? You don't say hey, I want to go! That is volunteering. Conscription is them calling you up. If you don't go, you're going somewhere-prison.

 

 

 

Remember if you're an American male over 18, you have to be enlisted with the selective service if you want to be able to hold any type or respectable job or enroll in any type of secondary education. Once you enlist (which you pretty much have to) you no longer have any right to say you don't want to go.

 

 

 

Hopefully a draft will never happen, and if it does it will not be for an unecessary battle far away. If it does happen it will hopefully be for defending our soil or a WWI/WWII type scenario where we are defending close allies and stopping the enemies from potentially coming to us. I believe if we really are attacked, a draft won't even be necessary though since many people would join up voluntarely. I know that if someone literally decided to attack us, I would.

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