Roberthree Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I've finally gotten my barrows set up all set up. After doing a few trial runs I find I use 3-6 doses of prayer potion per trip (depending on my luck). I'm the only person I know in-game that barrows for money, and I want to know: Is that a good amount? Just asking for opinions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etpelletier Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I've finally gotten my barrows set up all set up. After doing a few trial runs I find I use 3-6 doses of prayer potion per trip (depending on my luck). I'm the only person I know in-game that barrows for money, and I want to know: Is that a good amount? Just asking for opinions here. I think it is if you fight the barrow brothers as melee fighter. If you mage them, the runes you would need to buy would be more than the reward you get from barrows. So i think its profitable to melee them with using more p pots. Etp is the 38054th to 99 Magic!!!Etp is the 42243th to 99 Cooking!!!Maximum Armadyl God Wars Dungeon KillCount!!! #1 #2Ty Veyron for Siggy help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo_killer6 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I've finally gotten my barrows set up all set up. After doing a few trial runs I find I use 3-6 doses of prayer potion per trip (depending on my luck). I'm the only person I know in-game that barrows for money, and I want to know: Is that a good amount? Just asking for opinions here. I think it is if you fight the barrow brothers as melee fighter. If you mage them, the runes you would need to buy would be more than the reward you get from barrows. So i think its profitable to melee them with using more p pots. IF you use slayer dart you get all your runes back and more if you get a fair kill count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 if you're just starting barrows, than yes, that's very good. most of the more experienced barrowers can claim that they use one dose/no prayer potions every run, but they're pretty much the ones that live to barrow, or have done hundreds of runs. if you feel you aren't doing well, you'll get better with time I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 I think it is if you fight the barrow brothers as melee fighter. If you mage them, the runes you would need to buy would be more than the reward you get from barrows. So i think its profitable to melee them with using more p pots. Meleeing is suicide without verac's and high attack. I'm making a profit each run just from runes... I was just hoping for some opinions/tips from people who have done many barrows runs. @Above: I feel that I'm doing great, but for a week after I got members I thought picking flax was godly for gp... Making sure that never happens again lol. My kill count is normally 15, I think thats a fair balance of speed and drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etpelletier Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 lol sorry... :? Etp is the 38054th to 99 Magic!!!Etp is the 42243th to 99 Cooking!!!Maximum Armadyl God Wars Dungeon KillCount!!! #1 #2Ty Veyron for Siggy help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin1357 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Since you have 55 slayer I am going to assume you are using slayer dart. If you wear some barrows armor you wont need to use prayer on torag and guthans. Dont try verac till 80+def because he hits quite a bit if you dont pray against him. I wear guthans, d boots, glory, barrows gloves, slayer staff, rune defender, zammy cape from arena, no arrows since i melee ahrim. Unless you have barrows armor pray against all. Wear d hide when killing the melee brothers for better magic bonus. Dont bother taking mage robes since they arent needed. At you level ranging ahrim would be better than meleeing until 80+ att. Take a rune c bow with mith bolts and he should be easy. Thats all I have for now, pm me on tip.it if you have any more questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 What I used to do is to take full veracs with a spell, flail, dds, and whip. I kill all the melee brothers with mage, then kill karil and ahrims with veracs, in the order dh, ah, karil, verac, torag, guthan. Use 2-4 doses a trip with 52 pray. 3-6 doses is ok though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Originally I was just going to send this to one person, but i figured that if everyone saw it more people could scan it for errors (Please don't tell me to upgrade my gloves though, thats not an option currently) [hide=Barrows Method]My current method is to go in Dharok first and kill him with prayer (I switch to red dragonhide for the magic bonus, if a ghast rotted any of my food I switch to no armor/as little as possible). Slayer dart, yes yes. That normally leaves me with only 0-1 doses used, so I swap to a DDS (Set to slash) and head over to karil. I drink a dose of my combat potion (Its stat boosts are only about 5 less than a super set but it uses only 1 spot and is dirt cheap). I spec him, then whip him to death. Thats about 1-3 more doses depending on how much Guthix decides he hates me today. Then I put on red (I'll get black later) dragonhide and a rune crossbow with emerald enchanted bolts (Because I can make them from scratch easily). I remove non-essentials for extra ranged bonus. He falls pretty quickly so I can finish him with 0-1 doses. That leaves me with Verac. I let my prayer run out on him (Normally about halfway through the fight) and kill him with a sidestep and food. Guthan and Torag fall quickly and without problems. If my tunnel buddy is Dharok/Verac I safespot him. I take extra care to never mis-click with Dharok because theres no room for error. Torag or Guthan are basically the same as in their tomb, but if it spawns in a room with a safespot I use it. Karil and Ahrim are the tricky tunnels in my opinion. If It's Karil I continue on in my torag/whip until he pops out, then I chug a dose of potion and put on range prayer. Ahrim is a bit trickier because he lowers my stats and if I wear only dhide skeletons will use up too much food. So I switch to torag body and dhide legs. When he pops out I use mage prayer and 1 dose of potion. Only one. Most of the time he's almost done when/if it runs out. [hide=Iventory and Equipment] Runes are not actual amounts. [/hide][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin1357 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 What I used to do is to take full veracs with a spell, flail, dds, and whip. I kill all the melee brothers with mage, then kill karil and ahrims with veracs, in the order dh, ah, karil, verac, torag, guthan. Use 2-4 doses a trip with 52 pray. 3-6 doses is ok though. lol a little overkill on the weapons. With verac the point is using it so you wont need a whip or a spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoknight2 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 bring a mystic top and only pray on dharoks and karil. Kill ahrim with range and mage melees and melee karil. besure to bring rune ( in your case torags) top in case you're getting hit too often. if pray 52+ you should only use any pray with dharok/karil in tunnel. Otherwise, I see no reason why you should be having trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droppedmeatpie Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 in my opioning 3-6 doeses per trip is good .. i can someimes get away with 1 p pots for a whole trip ... depending if ur tunnle borther is melle or not use slayer dart its effetive coa they all have shocking mage def spet ah 16537th to get 99 fletching 20th june 2007quest cape achieved 25th january 20081700 total 13th july 2008click for blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VjuliusT Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 3-6 doses per trip is Not good but neither is it bad. You should practise using slayer dart in melee armor and only pray on dharock made karil. It takes time to learn but give good profit, even I did without prayer doses at 45 defence :wink: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdattack16 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Originally I was just going to send this to one person, but i figured that if everyone saw it more people could scan it for errors (Please don't tell me to upgrade my gloves though, thats not an option currently) [hide=Barrows Method]My current method is to go in Dharok first and kill him with prayer (I switch to red dragonhide for the magic bonus, if a ghast rotted any of my food I switch to no armor/as little as possible). Slayer dart, yes yes. That normally leaves me with only 0-1 doses used, so I swap to a DDS (Set to slash) and head over to karil. I drink a dose of my combat potion (Its stat boosts are only about 5 less than a super set but it uses only 1 spot and is dirt cheap). I spec him, then whip him to death. Thats about 1-3 more doses depending on how much Guthix decides he hates me today. Then I put on red (I'll get black later) dragonhide and a rune crossbow with emerald enchanted bolts (Because I can make them from scratch easily). I remove non-essentials for extra ranged bonus. He falls pretty quickly so I can finish him with 0-1 doses. That leaves me with Verac. I let my prayer run out on him (Normally about halfway through the fight) and kill him with a sidestep and food. Guthan and Torag fall quickly and without problems. If my tunnel buddy is Dharok/Verac I safespot him. I take extra care to never mis-click with Dharok because theres no room for error. Torag or Guthan are basically the same as in their tomb, but if it spawns in a room with a safespot I use it. Karil and Ahrim are the tricky tunnels in my opinion. If It's Karil I continue on in my torag/whip until he pops out, then I chug a dose of potion and put on range prayer. Ahrim is a bit trickier because he lowers my stats and if I wear only dhide skeletons will use up too much food. So I switch to torag body and dhide legs. When he pops out I use mage prayer and 1 dose of potion. Only one. Most of the time he's almost done when/if it runs out. [hide=Iventory and Equipment] Runes are not actual amounts. [/hide][/hide] For a beginner Barrower, you're off to a good start. Let me throw in real quick: I'd suggest a Verac's skirt instead (same defence, but with prayer bonus), and a helm of Neitiznot (prayer bonus, no negatives on attack). Since you only have 47 prayer, you could use every prayer bonus you can get. Try using a Guthix or Zamorak book, as well, it helps a fair bit. You can easily do Torag, Guthan, and Verac with no prayer. I only pray on Dharok and Karil, and Ahrim if I have prayer left. Instead of a combat potion, I'd suggest an (super) attack + defence potion, they'll both help loads. Try only praying on Dharok and Karil, works pretty well for me, and I always run out of prayer on Karil (70 defence, 54 prayer, about the same defence bonuses as you). And you really should consider getting higher prayer, like 50+. ;) And a 15 kill count is perfect, by the way. Don't bother getting 20, and 10 might give too few runes. :P Sig credit goes to ThruItAll. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 I'll try and get higher prayer, but I still prefer a far seer helm over a neitiznot helm. I have torag currently because it's very cheap and easy to buy, I'll keep any verac drops I get or buy it after the GE is released but atm it's just to much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Roberthree, I assume you are doing one chest per trip? Do you have access to the Canifis and an altar in your house? Otherwise, how do you recharge prayer and get to the Barrows? How long total does it take you to do a trip, from when you start out from the bank until you do the trip, bank, reload supplies and are ready to head out from the bank for a second trip? Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSTiLE_KAi Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Well 3-6 doses of prayer potion per trip is okay considering that you have those stats in 70s. Suggestions: Use a rune kite instead of defender- it helps a lot (I used d sq afterwards) The helm- like many who suggested neitzoit is one of the best with little penalty on magic. Recommendations: Train with the runes you got and get 80s magic- Again it helps significantly Train melee... Eventually tho you can use 1 or no dose at all, take it from a guy who did 300+ trips. Total Level 2247- 11x 99s All Combat Skills, Slayer, Summoning, Woodcutting, Herblore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atronic92 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 If you have at least 45-50 prayer you should be able to use zero-one does of prayer pot for one trip. You don't need to do 100's of runs or be experienced either. "We will certainly not be gaining money or members with this update. Instead, we are doing this for the good of the game, which is as dear to our hearts as it is to you."- JAGEX, December 13, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Roberthree, I assume you are doing one chest per trip? Do you have access to the Canifis and an altar in your house? Otherwise, how do you recharge prayer and get to the Barrows? How long total does it take you to do a trip, from when you start out from the bank until you do the trip, bank, reload supplies and are ready to head out from the bank for a second trip? Yes, yes, and not long at all. A minute or 2 at most. And my prayer is normally out halfway through karil, so I don't see how going 0 doses is possible for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerxiiii1 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 hello, i've done a fairly nice amount of barrow trips, here's what my invent is like: i get a tele to my house ( if i'm done i reload prayer and tele back to canifis) runes to cast slayer dart, 1 p pot ( in case of emergencies) karils with archer helm and rune c bow to range ahrims, and a dds and rune defender to get kc and kill karils. ( rest is sharks). i wear the highest defence armour i can and i just kill dharoks with prayer, and veracs to, then i got like 20 prayer left and use the rest of it on veracs, will use like 2 sharks @ veracs. then i go on to torags and do him without prayer, vice versa for guthans, ahrims i range, he's no big deal.'if you need any more tips, just pm me since i'm quite well experienced with doing barrows got 99 attack:D 89/99 str now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_I_O_T Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 hehe. It makes me laugh when I barrow with 18 doses per run of sup restore losing 8k over 12 runs. It's not bad considering my stats. Anyway you seem to be doing fine, keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Roberthree, I assume you are doing one chest per trip? Do you have access to the Canifis and an altar in your house? Otherwise, how do you recharge prayer and get to the Barrows? How long total does it take you to do a trip, from when you start out from the bank until you do the trip, bank, reload supplies and are ready to head out from the bank for a second trip? Yes, yes, and not long at all. A minute or 2 at most. And my prayer is normally out halfway through karil, so I don't see how going 0 doses is possible for me. No, I meant how long does a whole trip take. Meaning.. the time from when you leave the bank, go to the Barrows, do all the brothers, open the chest, teleport back to your house, recharge prayer, and bank so you are ready to go on the next trip. Try timing a couple of runs and tell me how long it takes and I can make suggestions for you. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 Oh, my bad I read that wrong. My shortest trip was about 15 minutes and my worst was 25 minutes. Normally its around 17-18 though. BTW- I've been practicing and if I get A dharok tunnel I can do it no-prayer-potions easily. I can do a normal run with about 1-2 doses and a karil tunnel takes 1-2 doses as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers4091 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Use mage on karil and you'll find you finish him faster, and don't pray on ahrim, he shouldn't hurt much at all. This also means you won't have prayer for verac, which is FINE. Also, you can do verac after karils instead of ahrim which leaves you prayer for verac. You'll only use a dose if:you need one on karil(which you can sometimes not use anyways) or you have karil in your tunnel. For your inventory:get a prayer book or rune kite instead of rune defender, whichever one you feel like you need more. Also, an msb with rune arrows(you pick them up and lose barely any) would work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phata_elise Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 That normally leaves me with only 0-1 doses used, so I swap to a DDS (Set to slash) and head over to karil. I drink a dose of my combat potion (Its stat boosts are only about 5 less than a super set but it uses only 1 spot and is dirt cheap). I spec him, then whip him to death. Thats about 1-3 more doses depending on how much Guthix decides he hates me today. that is your problem right there. Karil is very vulnerable to magic attacks too. Nearly every dart will hit and you will kill him faster than with melee. You will use 0-1 sips of p pot for him, depending on how much Guthix hates you. ;) Another advantage is that by maging him, you save 2 invent spots you should use for food (you won't need the combat pot and dds). The extra food can save you another sip of p pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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