So, stakings gone, which means so are merchants who buy 'wins'.

 

A lot of people have been hurt by Jagex's decision to practically get rid of the popular minigame, and so was I, until I realised what Jagex was up to. Or at least I hope they're up to.

 

 

 

I was like a lot of other people, ranting and posting suggestions that could easily bring back staking and screw over the RWT'ers, until I saw someones thread about Jagex removing direct trading and dropping (Heres the thread, please visit it as well).

 

 

 

The second after I posted on that thread, it hit me. Jagex's game drifted so far away from what they wanted it to be. The wilderness, which was meant to be a place where players could show their combat skills off and have some fun while doing it was turned into a place where people would just completely tick others off and get them completely pissed.

 

 

 

The duel arena. This was probably meant to be like the wilderness, to show off combat skills, but without a risk. The players could even bet a little money if they felt like it. But this was turned over and used to make more way more money then Jagex had expected.

 

 

 

Its pretty obvious that Jagex will remove player-to-player trading soon enough, with LootShare, Request Assistance, making the party house F2P (for drop parties) and Grand Exchange. They will probably remove dropping as well (or replacing it with private dropping [suggested by aafftteerr]), because only removing trading would be pretty damn pointless. This will rid of 99.99% of autoers, gold-farmers, RWT'ers, pures/skillers/new accounts who drop trade, because they won't have any way to get money to their new accounts or to trade them to others.

 

 

 

Imagine, RuneScape without autoers, without players making new accounts all the time. There would only be decent PK'ers now, either PKers who dont drop trade and make their money on there own, or older ones who have much higher levels and combat.

 

 

 

I, for one, am going to love it.

 

But will you?

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: For those of you who just won't accept that theres a big possiblity of losing direct trading, heres something I read on Mario Sunny's thread, straight from a Jagex mod..

 

 

 

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Mod Mark H

 

Jagex Mod

 

 

 

20-Nov-2007 19:40:06

 

**********: No, oddly enough this isn't the only thing we have done.

 

 

 

Let me set the record the straight for you, we can ban a lot of gold farmers, we *do* ban a lot of gold farmers.

 

 

 

The problem is, that doesn't stop them. They come back, and they can continue coming back over and over again because they have the time and resources for it.

 

 

 

We need to stop this problem at the source, and we are taking measures to do this.

 

 

 

This is one way we can limit how they transfer money. We will be working on other methods as well, implementing new systems to make Runescape a NICER game to play.

 

 

 

So many of you complained that macroers and goldfarmers were ruining the game, now we are doing something about it and if you don't want these people hogging all the resources and giving other players unfair advantages by selling them gold, I am afraid that a few changes will need to be made.

 

 

 

What would you prefer...

 

 

 

1) A Runescape with no cheating, or unfairness?

 

2) One less way to make money.

 

 

 

I know that's simplifying the situation heavily, but it boils down to that.

 

 

 

We know this would have major changes and sadly cause loyal members to quit. But we wouldn't be doing it if we could resolve it another way.

 

 

 

~ MMH ~

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Pretty big theories... but nice.

 

 

 

I hope so... but I like the trade screen... taking it out is a little.. drastic?

If they get rid of trading I'm fine with it, but dropping? I'd have to walk to a store or whatnot everytime I wanted to get rid of something. Or what if I'm training and accidently pick up something I dont mean to. Or I'm pking and I have no inventory space to pick up my kill. I couldn't see runescape without dropping, that would make things alot more difficult than before.

 

 

 

However, Runescape without macros and bots, awesome, just awesome :

What would you like more; No autoers or no direct trading?

 

I like the trade screen just as much as the next guy, but I'll pick number one. O:)

If they get rid of trading I'm fine with it, but dropping? I'd have to walk to a store or whatnot everytime I wanted to get rid of something. Or what if I'm training and accidently pick up something I dont mean to. Or I'm pking and I have no inventory space to pick up my kill. I couldn't see runescape without dropping, that would make things alot more difficult than before.

 

 

 

However, Runescape without macros and bots, awesome, just awesome :

 

 

 

I forgot to mention that they would most likely replace it with destroying.

I don't think the triple post is really necessary...but the one thing I don't like about that is you won't be able to give people little items for skills or quests, or give friends weapons or anything like that.

Your post has changed my perspective on alot of Jagex's actions.. and hopefully, I'm going to love the result :) I would miss the trade window oh so much though..

if what you say is true, I'd better hurry up and finish my 99 Runecrafting :shock: (Can't use runners anymore)

 

 

 

also, if macro's were to be removed, you may be happy at first, but there is a cost. You will have to pay 200-300 gp higher for every raw material, perhaps more, due to the decrease in autoers. If you don't mind paying a much heavier fee for skilling items then removing autoers is good, otherwise its not so great. Just my 2 cents.

 

 

 

also, it does not remove gold farmers, the farmers will simply have to sell through the grand exchange on the account that they do the macroing on, they will, however, be easier to track but not removed.

If they get rid of trading I'm fine with it, but dropping? I'd have to walk to a store or whatnot everytime I wanted to get rid of something. Or what if I'm training and accidently pick up something I dont mean to. Or I'm pking and I have no inventory space to pick up my kill. I couldn't see runescape without dropping, that would make things alot more difficult than before.

 

 

 

However, Runescape without macros and bots, awesome, just awesome :

 

 

 

I forgot to mention that they would most likely replace it with destroying.

 

Ok, that works for me, but you'd probably have to go through a multi-click thing (for lack of a better name) asking if you're sure you want to destroy it which might get annoying after a little while.

It sounds....interesting. And I do enjoy the noise made when destroying items : (I often get the holiday hats over and over from Diango and just destroy them all :P )

 

also, if macro's were to be removed, you may be happy at first, but there is a cost. You will have to pay 200-300 gp higher for every raw material, perhaps more, due to the decrease in autoers. If you don't mind paying a much heavier fee for skilling items then removing autoers is good, otherwise its not so great. Just my 2 cents.

 

 

 

Ahh yes, forgot about this.. A very good point. I've recently started to love skilling, I'd hate the price change!

Getting rid of dropping is drastic. I mean, if I get a drop with no space left, I'll drop something, pick up and bury the bones, then pick up the item again. Possibly make it so all drops are private, or however its classified as, that only you can see it and it doesn't become available to others

also, it does not remove gold farmers, the farmers will simply have to sell through the grand exchange on the account that they do the macroing on, they will, however, be easier to track but not removed.

 

 

 

How would the Gold-Farmers sell their gold? It just wouldn't work..

Getting rid of dropping is drastic. I mean, if I get a drop with no space left, I'll drop something, pick up and bury the bones, then pick up the item again. Possibly make it so all drops are private, or however its classified as, that only you can see it and it doesn't become available to others

 

Yeah, making it so you can still drop, but no one else can see it and it disappears after a minute would be a possibly better option.

I can't wait... :pray:

Autoers actually help keep prices down.....which is why I sometimes turn the blind eye on them.

 

 

 

But why the heck take dropping out. I swear...

 

 

 

Edit: Oh skim thru that part. Ok I guess it will be all right then.

Latino, I put in that they could/might add 'personal dropping'. This means that you can drop something, but no-one else but yourself will be able to see it. (Thanks affttterr :wink:)

I like Runescape, here and there I won't like something but thats just natural but for all this time I don't understand all these people who rant about the smallest thing(IMO the only really stupid update: wild ditch) but if they eliminate trade, I quit.

I really don't see why, the Grand Exchange will probably be open at every bank, and the only downfall will be that you can't help another player in a quest or something like that. I know its your opinion, but I just dont agree with it.

I've stood up to a lot of updates over the years.... BUT if they remove trading, I'm quiting. That's all there is to it. All those other updates, which have made people threaten to quit would be daunted by that update. They will lose more than 80% of their player base.

I've stood up to a lot of updates over the years.... BUT if they remove trading, I'm quiting. That's all there is to it. All those other updates, which have made people threaten to quit would be daunted by that update. They will lose more than 80% of their player base.

 

 

 

We'll see about that.

I have 5 words I say whenever I hear crud about removing trading:

 

Shield of Arrav, Hero's Quest.

 

I doubt they would destroy 2 of their own quests and a guild....

I've stood up to a lot of updates over the years.... BUT if they remove trading, I'm quiting. That's all there is to it. All those other updates, which have made people threaten to quit would be daunted by that update. They will lose more than 80% of their player base.

 

 

 

lol thats really similiar to what I said

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: I'm sorry, I just have to say something. I can't stand when people post a topic in the general discussion thread and the author has to reply to every single post.

I've stood up to a lot of updates over the years.... BUT if they remove trading, I'm quiting. That's all there is to it. All those other updates, which have made people threaten to quit would be daunted by that update. They will lose more than 80% of their player base.

 

 

 

lol thats really similiar to what I said

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: I'm sorry, I just have to say something. I can't stand when people post a topic in the general discussion thread and the author has to reply to every single post.

 

 

 

I've also been thinking that I've posted too much, this will be the last time for awhile.. sorry.

how bout you can drop stuff but only you could see it. like hol,iday items fighter torso barrrow gloves etc.