Tip.it Times Presents: Change!

[aznmidget448]

Did You Know...

 

...that the fish thats called karambwan does not stop you from hitting and it heals 18!

 

 

 

Did you know...

 

...that the fish that's called karambwan heals after you're finished the eating animation instead of when you start the animation.

 

 

 

That's the reason why sharks are the preferred food for pking and killing high levelled monsters. :P

 

 

 

Wait really? I didn't know that :x

 

 

 

Great Article! I haven't read these for a while. Yes, everything is bound to change and once accepted, change is usually beneficial. There are reasons Jagex created the new Duel Arena and if Jagex believes that they are for the better good of Runecsape, I am willing to sacrifice (even if that means no more wc to get rid of autoers, which would be bad, because that would get rid of my money source :( ) But yeah, they did this update for a reason and that reason will become more clear when you open your mind to the new idea.

[oddfaery2]

I have to say that I am very disappointed with this article. There are at least three HUGE updates the article could be referring to (Duel update, and future Grand Exchange and Summoning updates), and some analysis would have been very fruitful, I think.

 

 

 

However, instead of a thoughtful analysis, we pretty much just got to read a long article saying, "Don't complain about updates," which could've been easily written with just that, and saved the long read with no depth.

 

 

 

Change is inevitable, yes, but that does not mean that we need to just accept and deal with all changes. RS players are paying customers who give their money for a product that Jagex gives them. Saying they should just accept any changes in the game and continue paying their money is ridiculous...

 

 

 

If you were paying for cable, and they randomly removed channels that you love from your service, while charging you the same fee, I know for a fact that you would be making a call before paying the next bill, NOT just "accepting the inevitable change" like you suggest. Companies like Jagex survive by satisfying their customers. Suppose just 5% of member accounts were made for staking or dueling, and had their membership cancelled due to the way the Duel Arena was changed. With one million members, that would make 50,000 canceled accounts. That is $250,000 a MONTH that Jagex no longer makes. ANY corporation with that kind of loss would, I assume, be quick to resolve the situation, assuming they want to keep their profits up.

 

 

 

I would've been much more impressed if The guest author would've been so kind as to analyze the impact this update had on the game. There is much to discuss regarding how the game has already changed in such little time, especially the economy, and how the game will continue to change, if nothing more than speculation.

 

 

 

There was no substance to this week's article, sadly, and I do not say this only because I disagree with the message, but because I like a good read. I expected something very interesting regarding this week's update, and was let down sorely. It seems our newest Editor is afraid to write or release anything that would seem opinionated against Jagex (as an analysis of the update might), but has no qualms against speaking against our readers.

[skgbafa]

the did you know was awsome! that is going to become a pking must!

[klankaos]

Great read! Kudos to The Editor, this article's quality really picked up from the last one. Raised some very interesting points, and pointed out things that, if everyone knew them, would make the world a better place. Nice one.

[raylifes]

There was no substance to this week's article, sadly, and I do not say this only because I disagree with the message, but because I like a good read. I expected something very interesting regarding this week's update, and was let down sorely.

 

 

 

Sadly I have to agree to this. I don't mind if I can't agree with what is written in the times, even better, I like it when I don't agree, since there is something to discuss in that case. On average I agree with what is written in the times, but still at the very least it is interesting to read. Not so with this article. When I finished reading it, I just had the feeling everything could have easily been summed up to a couple of lines and still have as much meaning.

[jayc3399]

A well thought out article, that truely expresses how things are. Well done.

[regicide001]

good read.

 

 

 

oddfaery is pretty typical of the changing face of tipit crew. whiny spoiled little brats always second guessing jagex and thinking they know better and if only jagex would do things their way...

[gameboypen]

Very good points, it's like living in the past. Pointless you will just be annoyed at everything new. (eg. the generic old guy.) Sometimes change may better certain people/things but not you. Despite this you have to move on.

[blosssom2581]

You read my mind! :shock:

 

 

 

Ya. Some pessimistic guys may say that "Economy gonna crash" or "8-year old boys gonna ruin Ruinscape". De facto, I, myself is sometime quite pessimistic. Yet, this article reminds me whether I am optimistic or pessimistic, changes happen. The status quo cannot be maintained forever.

 

 

 

Great article. A meaningful, well written one :)

[Tiger_Joe_Pk]

I feel the same way good artical.

[visor27]

I always hear ranting about the economy crashing and how you should sell you're rares before prices cut, and then laws cost less and raise in supply and Santas triple in value and cause huge surprises. Ranting causes the opposite, a wonderfully happy community trying to prove them wrong, and I personally love horoscopes, so there's a connection between those and end-of-runescape predictions.

[oddfaery2]

good read.

 

 

 

oddfaery is pretty typical of the changing face of tipit crew. whiny spoiled little brats always second guessing jagex and thinking they know better and if only jagex would do things their way...

 

 

 

Hey there, Vincent. Didn't you know you're only supposed to have one account? Making another for the sake of flaming with me is pretty dumb... Save the childish behavior for somebody who cares if you disagree?

 

 

 

Judging from the reply I assume you know nothing about me... and I don't see how I'm the "changing face" of tipit crew considering how long I've been a crewbie... lol

 

 

 

I don't know where you get your ideas about me... but I never recall saying that Jagex should do things my way... There are things I would do differently, and I'm sure everybody could say that who plays this game.

 

 

 

Next time you decide to flame somebody, don't hide behind a mask to do it.

[archangel]

Change is man's worst fear..

[rune2ology]

Everything can become a cause and most causes have effects. This is all a chain-reaction which leads to another thing which leads to anything and so on and so forth. It is like a Domino Effect which one thing can cause a lot of problems or benefits. Changes have a chance of creating a new set of chains or grow on an existing problem. This is all like a forest fire, will the our new actions help the fire grow or help fire die and neutralize the situation until it stops.

[Earth_Poet]

Overall I believe this was a very generic and weak article to publish at this time. I would have believed there could've have been a more specific article written with the very recent and drastic changes to the game this month. I don't disagree with the general message in this article. This game updates and changes regularly, so you either have to learn to adapt to it or be left behind. However, you can't take this argument and simply blanket it over every and all rant that any player has ever had. It is true that some players make petty complaints and personal attacks against Runescape, Jagex, and certain players. There are some players that make valid and reasonable complaints though. Making statements along the lines of "quit whining" and implying that we should just be thankful for what we have is degrading, insulting, and demonstrates just as much ignorance as some of the ranters. Not every change provides a positive effect....no matter what the intentions or how much time was spent on creating the change.

 

 

 

I've heard some players say that they don't stake and therefore they don't care about the recent duel arena update. I don't stake either, but I still believe the update was a bit extreme for an attempt to stop real world traders. In a war situation, if you suspect an enemy is hiding in a building in the center of a town you don't call in the airstrike to nuke the entire countryside, killing thousands if not millions of innocent people in the process. I've always been against real world traders, macroers, and gold farmers. I believe they are a disease that weakens the game and have argued against anybody who tries to claim there are some benefits to it. I believe they should be dealt with and removed from the game, but at what cost??? With the cap limit in the duel arena it would seem a whole group of players within the community have become casualties to the War on Macros. You can still duel, but you would have to be blind to see that a huge part of the enjoyment, and to some extent a reason for playing, has been eliminated. I'm sure there would be plenty of complaints if there was a cap placed on skills. If you were only allowed to cut 1 load of logs or mine 1 load of ore or craft 1 load of nats an hour you would begin to question the point in even playing anymore.

 

 

 

I'm not saying this is the end of Runescape as we know it, but I do believe players have a right to complain. And sometimes...just sometimes...they may actually have a point! I guess that is why this article seems so out of place to me. It seems stakers have a valid complaint. Why pay for a service that no longer exists? Not every change is written in stone. They could make a small amendment to the big changes.

[Fey_Warrior]

I agree that in order to respond to change we need to learn to adapt to some extent. In addition as players we also need to be certain we are specific about our issues to ensure that any problems we have with changes are fixable.

 

 

 

So while the sentiment here is understandable, I agree the article itself did not help either by seeking our problems that may be addressed.

 

 

 

As far as 'ranting on other ranting' goes, though it's a truism, that what's often lost when we're angry is perspective. The wider affects beyond our own game, and the game-play of our groups of friends, is lost to what is sometimes a blinding rage.

 

 

 

So far from avoid making complaints, what we need to do as players is make our complaints more specific about what are our issues with game features, rather than building the Tower of Myth predicting doom for all player-kind.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Fey.

[meili]

Not bad, but as other people have said, I would prefer a more timely and interesting article on the drastic changes that Rs has gone through because of the last few updates.

[neonihilist]

"We do not know what will lead to the end of runescape"

 

 

 

Well I do, the end of net neutrality.

 

I did not know karambwan don't stop you from hitting. That could make them better than sharks in certain situations.

[Dragonmaker9]

I didn't like the Assist system coming out, after Jagex CHANGED it, I was happy.

 

 

 

The Grand Exchange is good too.

 

 

 

Normally there is one change to RuneScape each month that I dislike, but so far this month as been perfect, and today is the last day of this month!

[JaydenPG13]

Kind of a boring read, didnt really have too much to do with runescape at the beginning and i never really learned anything in the article

[Maximusa]

Overall I believe this was a very generic and weak article to publish at this time. I would have believed there could've have been a more specific article written with the very recent and drastic changes to the game this month. I don't disagree with the general message in this article. This game updates and changes regularly, so you either have to learn to adapt to it or be left behind. However, you can't take this argument and simply blanket it over every and all rant that any player has ever had. It is true that some players make petty complaints and personal attacks against Runescape, Jagex, and certain players. There are some players that make valid and reasonable complaints though. Making statements along the lines of "quit whining" and implying that we should just be thankful for what we have is degrading, insulting, and demonstrates just as much ignorance as some of the ranters. Not every change provides a positive effect....no matter what the intentions or how much time was spent on creating the change.

 

 

 

I've heard some players say that they don't stake and therefore they don't care about the recent duel arena update. I don't stake either, but I still believe the update was a bit extreme for an attempt to stop real world traders. In a war situation, if you suspect an enemy is hiding in a building in the center of a town you don't call in the airstrike to nuke the entire countryside, killing thousands if not millions of innocent people in the process. I've always been against real world traders, macroers, and gold farmers. I believe they are a disease that weakens the game and have argued against anybody who tries to claim there are some benefits to it. I believe they should be dealt with and removed from the game, but at what cost??? With the cap limit in the duel arena it would seem a whole group of players within the community have become casualties to the War on Macros. You can still duel, but you would have to be blind to see that a huge part of the enjoyment, and to some extent a reason for playing, has been eliminated. I'm sure there would be plenty of complaints if there was a cap placed on skills. If you were only allowed to cut 1 load of logs or mine 1 load of ore or craft 1 load of nats an hour you would begin to question the point in even playing anymore.

 

 

 

I'm not saying this is the end of Runescape as we know it, but I do believe players have a right to complain. And sometimes...just sometimes...they may actually have a point! I guess that is why this article seems so out of place to me. It seems stakers have a valid complaint. Why pay for a service that no longer exists? Not every change is written in stone. They could make a small amendment to the big changes.

 

 

 

I completely agree with everything you said, especially the nuke analogy. This is exactly what happened to stakers, I do not stake, I never would of staked.. but as part of the community I am disgusted they simply nuked the entire point of dueling. =/

 

 

 

I may not duel but it has also effected me due to fact I used to make stakers rune items for them to use. They made BIG money and I was privileged to be a part of that.. I have been slowly raising my skills for years. (I am in no rush for any 99's) I have raised my smithing the way I enjoyed to raise it. I like making stuff and seeing people use what I make. When those new clues scrolls came out it was amazing the demand for hammers was incredible untill they increased (Changed) the monsters available that dropped the items. I loved how my stakers bought from me often or in mass the items they needed. They used the items I created to make alot of money for themselves which I loved and I was happy for them. I enjoyed what I enjoyed and they enjoyed what they enjoyed, it was a perfect harmony. I didnt care how much money I made or whatever I just wanted to know the items I made were being put to good use!

 

 

 

I feel so gutted for them that a big part of their enjoyment has been removed as much as I am gutted for myself. =/ What am I meant to smith to 99 in mass that holds up the same enjoyment of seeing my produce being used. =/

 

 

 

..I am meant to be happy about this? The stakers are meant to be happy about this? ..No..no! As someone who pays themselves and is an adult I do not see a need to be happy and kiss their [wagon] when they do a bad job. There was no reason they had to make such a ridiclously LOW 3k limet. They can stop real world traders and still let legit players continue to stake more moderate sums of money such as 1m an hour perhaps? I can continue to smith to 99 making items people will use. They can stake more moderate sums of money. Everyone is happy and the real world traders have to find a new way to trade.

 

 

 

Instead they just nuked it. Taking away alot of enjoyment from people. =/ There was just no need for it... Seriously no need for such a low limet. I sympathise massively for all those legit players who spent time creating specialised characters to stake with. They cannot win this 'war' anyway. I will never again get those pms saying "Thankyou so much, your awesome, I just won 1m" etc. The cries of joys from people actually ENJOYING the game. I dont think I will get any pms sayin "OMG OMG I WON 3K THANKYOU SO MUCH!" :roll: Thats the cost of ONE rune knife. :roll:

 

 

 

If they use ONE RUNE KNIFE they must win to brake even. :XD: :roll: I can deal with this myself for the time being but my god they have completely screwed over many players and I do not think that is acceptable behavior if they wish continued success. :notalk: I dont care if it was only 3% of the players effected I am not impressed by their low respect for paying customers over rwt!

 

 

 

I feel little better letting out my frustration.. been biting my lip, turning a blind eye hoping they would increase the cap or make it a gap. No such luck yet.. :|

[verusius]

What is this guy on?!

 

Firstly, change is inevitable in the long run - yes, but in the short term - no.

 

 

 

Secondly, there has never been an economy collapse - erm?

 

e.g. Splitting of rune essence into 2 types. Normal comes in at about 50gp each. Pure drops to 85-90. Now, normal is under 18gp each and pure is under 80gp each and falling.

 

 

 

Stop trying to be clever, think about what you say before you say it (or write it, to be more accurate). \

 

 

 

p.s. The nuke analogy? Very good but i guess it depends whether you live in America or not! :P

[tameelf]

had jagex invested in some top player imput into all major updates going back to pc the positive and negitive imput would have been road tested by the best mayby then we might welcome the change.and not reflect on what we had and was taken away.

 

 

 

The nuke analogy?

 

the war on bots entered the nuke phase with the ge update there only ever was one finger on the button.now theres two. jagex and goldsites