Well, I have been Barbarian Fishing for quite some time and thinking, I ought to find a use for this Caviar.

 

 

 

Besides the obvious gaining levels in herblore, of which these appear to be fairly useful! I found a few places with use for a potion.

 

 

 

First, lets go over just what a Mix is. A Mix is the same as a potion, but it only comes in 2 doses. To make a mix, use a handful of Caviar on a 2 dose potion. A Mix heals a total of 12 HP, thats 6 HP a dose. You must start Otto's Barbarian Training to create mixes.

 

 

 

So to sum it up, a Mix is a Potion that only comes in 2 dose and heals 12 HP.

 

 

 

To obtain caviar, simply use a knife on a Sturgeon (fished at level 70 fishing via Barbarian Fishing).

 

 

 

As far as I can see, Bringing a potion is almost always better replaced by bringing twice as many mixes.

 

 

 

Super Sets

 

 

 

Bringing a super set to boost your slayer xp? Consider this. If you bring one of each potion, (4) dose, and 3 sharks (you will of course bring more sharks, but this is irrelevant because we will be focusing on these 6 inventory spots.)

 

 

 

Okay, so in these six spots, we have 60 Healing and 12 doses of potion.

 

Consider an alternative. You instead bring two of each super set mix.

 

 

 

Now you have, in six spots, a total of 72 Healing (that is 12 more than before!) The amount of extra healing earns increases based on the amount of potions brought (but don't bring more than you would need). Thus it is proven that a mix is more efficient.

 

 

 

One may ask, now that's nice and all, but what if I don't want to eat and pot up at the same time?

 

 

 

The simple answer is to watch your stats as they go down. Stop eating when you're about to get to whatever point you repot at and then use the pot to pot back up and heal at the same time. Using this is not only more space efficient but also required less clicks.

 

 

 

Prayer Pots

 

 

 

Prayer pots are used for a variety of things. Many of which are using pots to remain invincible to certain monsters. In the case of praying to where a monster is unable to hurt you, Prayer Mixes are not worthwhile and instead you should bring four dose prayer potions.

 

 

 

However, there are several uses for these Prayer Mixes. The main of which is high level monsters hunting. Using the same math used in the super set section, I have found that using 4 prayer mixes is more advantageous than using 2 prayer pots and 2 shark. 4 prayer mixes is the same dosage but with 8 more healing than with the Shark.

 

 

 

Packing as much healing points as possible is very important in soloing cases such as Mithril Dragons, Kalphite Queen, King Black Dragon, and DK's.

 

 

 

Besides the help of packing more healing in however, comes the fact that it is quicker. When youre fighting a high hitting monster like the KQ, you don't want to waste two turns to eat and pot. Every attack matters. It is thus useful to be able to score back some HP whilst you naturally repot for prayer so that you can save some later eating. Don't worry, You'll almost always have at least a 6 HP dent.

 

 

 

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Heh, never knew mixes were so helpful. Nice info :D

Heh, never knew mixes were so helpful. Nice info :D

 

 

 

Thanks =) I just thought it was sad to see these useful things go to waste as nothing more than the occasional herblorist using fishing pots or some other "useless" potion to squeeze a little more XP out of a potion

I actually was trying to think why they even put barbarian pots in the game...then I started to think about how much more i could heal while drinking the potion. Nice Find.

Very well written and well thought out.

 

 

 

Some great examples, I can definately see a few times I might use these ideas.

 

 

 

You should add a few extras, like explain a little more about how u get caviar (personally never barbarian fished) where to catch sturgeon?. Maybe give an idea of how often you get them, if they are worth buying & if they are easy to get hold of if buying.

 

 

 

You should add a little and submit this to go in guides or something, because there's some great info here that a lot of people would find helpful, would be a shame if it just dissapeared in the tide of spam on the general forum.

I love the zamorak brew mixes. Thank you so much for the information! : )

While in theory it all looks good in practice it is a big waste.

 

 

 

Sure you get the same number of pots with a bit more healing.

 

 

 

BUT

 

 

 

99% of the time when you want to heal you don't need to pot ergo you have just wasted a dose of potion

 

 

 

Also maybe 60% of the time when you need to pot you don't need to heal ergo you have just wasted food.

 

 

 

I mean do you run up the the KQ gulp down a dose of each of ur super set and eat a shark or two despite being full hp?

 

 

 

And then do you go oh no I need to heal so eat a shark or two and also gulp more super pots just becuz u ate?

 

 

 

 

 

Overall it is worse as you waste pots to heal and you waste healling to pot.

Nice find. I never knew that you could make a 'zamorak mix', they must be quite useful.

 

 

 

Hang on, there is a problem here. The '12 hp per potion' claim is not entirely correct:

 

 

 

Each dose of potion will heal 3-6 Hitpoints.

 

 

 

Judging by the nature of potions, this value probably depends on your HP level. So, you can only get the desired '12 hp per potion' if you have a high hp level. If you have a low hp level, you will only get a measly 6 hp per potion.

 

 

 

However, if this value is actually random, it's worse. You can't really predict if the potion will really be that efficient.

 

 

 

Can anybody do some tests to see the actual nature of Barbarian Mixes?

Nice find. I never knew that you could make a 'zamorak mix', they must be quite useful.

 

 

 

Hang on, there is a problem here. The '12 hp per potion' claim is not entirely correct:

 

 

 

Each dose of potion will heal 3-6 Hitpoints.

 

 

 

Judging by the nature of potions, this value probably depends on your HP level. So, you can only get the desired '12 hp per potion' if you have a high hp level. If you have a low hp level, you will only get a measly 6 hp per potion.

 

 

 

However, if this value is actually random, it's worse. You can't really predict if the potion will really be that efficient.

 

 

 

Can anybody do some tests to see the actual nature of Barbarian Mixes?

 

 

 

 

 

no, you make mixed potions by adding roe or caviar. roe heals 3 and caviar 6 per dose( or the other way round:p)

 

 

 

Also, zamorak brews require torstol rather then dwarf weed=] nice info btw

Most slayers use guthan for healing so that's bit a waste of time

Nice info! :thumbsup:

 

 

 

I might use this sometime if I go to the Mithril Dragons :D

In my opinion, the only time this would be good is if you can find a place where you lose stat boosts and HP at a rate that is good for the potion, otherwise, as someone said, you will be healing at full HP, and potting when you are already potted, just because you have to.

Hmmm zamorak mixes... Never thought about that.

 

 

 

Does anyone know how much damage they deal as a mixes? I never bothered using them because of the damage but I might give them another chance if mixing them makes them less [cabbage]ty.

 

 

 

If mixing them makes them useful MY 750+ torstols finally got an use =P~ .

While in theory it all looks good in practice it is a big waste.

 

 

 

Sure you get the same number of pots with a bit more healing.

 

 

 

BUT

 

 

 

99% of the time when you want to heal you don't need to pot ergo you have just wasted a dose of potion

 

 

 

Also maybe 60% of the time when you need to pot you don't need to heal ergo you have just wasted food.

 

 

 

I mean do you run up the the KQ gulp down a dose of each of ur super set and eat a shark or two despite being full hp?

 

 

 

And then do you go oh no I need to heal so eat a shark or two and also gulp more super pots just becuz u ate?

 

 

 

 

 

Overall it is worse as you waste pots to heal and you waste healling to pot.

 

 

 

No actually I explained this here.

 

First of all, youre NOT going to be full HP at the KQ. Ive used them many times here, they work.

 

 

 

And in the case of training food, its VERy easy to estimate that youre going to need to repot soon and simply stop eating.

 

 

 

Sure it takes a little more planning, but worth the tiny effort in my opinion.

 

 

 

I'll have how to gather caviar and stuff later I suppose. I maybe I should write a guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, you will NOT ALWAYS want mixes and I have covered that in the guide. I simply believe they are actually quite uses and do have many places where they are used.

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry about the dwarf weed-torstol error I'll fix that.

Zamorak potions do not boost your prayer and thus are completely useless.

 

 

 

The problem with the mixes is that they count as food rather than potions and a lot of people know (Mainly pkers) that you can eat a piece of food and drink a potion quicker than it takes to eat two pieces of food. So that's also a major disadvantage.

According to Tip.It and Zybez, Zamorak brews DO restore some prayer.

 

Zamorak Brew

Well in the KB says nothing about it and personally I've never heard anyone mention it before this.

 

 

 

How much does it boost it by if it does?

Zybez states that it increases it by 15-20%. This does seem strange as only half the sources seem to say that Zamorak Brews heal prayer.

 

 

 

I'm going to buy one and find out.

I can save you the trouble. They restore around 10% prayer per dose; I used them just yesterday.

 

 

 

Note that the Tip.It item guide mentions this, but the Herblore guide does not.

 

 

 

Zamorak brew mixes seem like a useful idea, but are of little value, IMO, because in most situations where you care about your HP you also care about your defence level. If you are using prayer you can just use the Zammy brew and let your HP restore naturally.

 

 

 

The mix potions are useful for monsters that hit hard and where you don't stay for a long time between banking runs. Specifically, I use prayer and antifire mixes extensively in my mithril dragon techniques. I've also used super attack and super strength mixes.

o_O Never knew of that. :$ When I'm a member I might try mixes out. :-$

While in theory it all looks good in practice it is a big waste.

 

 

 

Sure you get the same number of pots with a bit more healing.

 

 

 

BUT

 

 

 

99% of the time when you want to heal you don't need to pot ergo you have just wasted a dose of potion

 

 

 

Also maybe 60% of the time when you need to pot you don't need to heal ergo you have just wasted food.

 

 

 

I mean do you run up the the KQ gulp down a dose of each of ur super set and eat a shark or two despite being full hp?

 

 

 

And then do you go oh no I need to heal so eat a shark or two and also gulp more super pots just becuz u ate?

 

 

 

 

 

Overall it is worse as you waste pots to heal and you waste healling to pot.

 

 

 

No actually I explained this here.

 

First of all, youre NOT going to be full HP at the KQ. Ive used them many times here, they work.

 

 

 

And in the case of training food, its VERy easy to estimate that youre going to need to repot soon and simply stop eating.

 

 

 

Sure it takes a little more planning, but worth the tiny effort in my opinion.

 

 

 

I'll have how to gather caviar and stuff later I suppose. I maybe I should write a guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, you will NOT ALWAYS want mixes and I have covered that in the guide. I simply believe they are actually quite uses and do have many places where they are used.

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry about the dwarf weed-torstol error I'll fix that.

 

 

 

EVERY time I've EVER gone to hte KQ I HAVE been at FULL Hp when I arrive.

 

 

 

At this point I pot up, but do not wish to heal.

 

 

 

As I said in THEORY they are good.

 

 

 

In practice nearly all the time they cost you more as you are healing/potting when you don't need to.

 

 

 

In all the circumstances where they COULD be useful the easiest way to do it involves distance attacking eg range/mage or guthans both of which make healing unneeded. In all other cases you need food and pots to beat it safely eg God Wars.

 

 

 

The idea work as a theory and in a small way, but in any big way it works out worse than using regular pots and food

I generally take a dose of each pot I need while in Shantay then run off to the KQ.

 

 

 

while at the KQ I only need prayer pots. usually by the time im heading back for another trip the potions are just ready to be resipped.

 

 

 

My idea would be, if you actually want to bring super sets TO the KQ, sip a dose of each regular pot at Shantay and bring a super set mix you to use while there. I doubt you'll need more than 2 doses anyway.

never heard of killing it several times in one trip?

Mixes are very useless IMO.

 

 

 

The only times I ever take damage, inventory space is important to me.

 

I often carry 3 super sets to a slayer task as well...

 

Don't expect me to bring 6 of each mix potion.

 

 

 

Not to mention that the extra sharks you can bring in the space that you save with 4 dose pots is far better than what the mixes heal.

This seems like a guide. Shouldn't it be in a diferent forum? Sorry to act like a wannabe mod.