December 31, 200718 yr its been while, but what about the tears of guthix quest? requires a lantern and some other things? maybe a [bleep]y helm? seems to 1 of the 1's that might be a potentially good updates, however the minigame afterwards could be an issue.
December 31, 200718 yr its been while, but what about the tears of guthix quest? requires a lantern and some other things? maybe a [bleep]y helm? seems to 1 of the 1's that might be a potentially good updates, however the minigame afterwards could be an issue. Requires swamp caves whihc is currently members [bleep]ey helm members item and slayer item. To give them tht quest u gotta open up: lantern making, slayer master stores, a slayer cave And tht still leaves the issue of the mini-game and then f2p whining they can see slayer monsters but not fight them Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue
December 31, 200718 yr Before the update, those using Bots just jumped off the boat from the training island and started hammering away at resources. Now...there might be less (or might not be), but abusers of the system will be harder to recognize. Before, it was easier to recognize MOST bots (not all are bots...some were legit "Pure Skillers")...a level 3 or 4 in the "green pants...chopping Yews with an iron or steel axe. Now, they will have higher levels...making EVERYONE suspect by self appointed BOT hunters. OFF TOPIC: I mean really...If I get reported 1 more time because I refuse to acknowledge with a response every 30 seconds when someone yells "WC Level?" I'm gonna PHREAK out! Just because someone does not talk does not mean they are Macroing! Learn to tell the difference first! ON TOPIC: I do expect to see those who like to Macro start to quest with their Bots, if just to take advantage of the increase in Trade limit. So, it will be hard to tell what the true impact is with these updates. "When there is a Will, there is a Way"
December 31, 200718 yr Gertrude's quest is one of the most viable quests, because no-one will care about f2p getting kittens when p2p gets dogs and human-eating octopuses in a fishbowl thanks to summoning. http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice!
December 31, 200718 yr What when 90% of the autoers are f2p?As if. Bots can't simply auto quests unlike combat or woodcutting. It would be a big hinderance to do just a couple of the easy quests.
December 31, 200718 yr The trade cap should increase by 1k for every QP you have, F2p would still be really low... Besides, how many macroers can complete Dragon Slayer? Jagex didn't do it like that as then it'd be FAR to easy to up your trade limit. From simple don't need members or many skills quests that bots can do you can get about 10 - 20 qp That'd mean bots could easily all be trading up to about 13k - 23k What person buying farmed gold would go through the trouble of being given 23k every 15 minutes until they got all of the payment? Think about it, it just wouldn't be worth the hassle.
December 31, 200718 yr The trade cap should increase by 1k for every QP you have, F2p would still be really low... Besides, how many macroers can complete Dragon Slayer? Jagex didn't do it like that as then it'd be FAR to easy to up your trade limit. From simple don't need members or many skills quests that bots can do you can get about 10 - 20 qp That'd mean bots could easily all be trading up to about 13k - 23k What person buying farmed gold would go through the trouble of being given 23k every 15 minutes until they got all of the payment? Think about it, it just wouldn't be worth the hassle. I agree with Runeman on this. It would take 43 trades just to trade 1million gp. A total of 645 minutes, or 10.75 hours. Also, most F2P quests can't just simply be auoted.
December 31, 200718 yr I totally agree. They should be p2p quests, not new ones. That way they might get a taste for p2p and subscribe.
December 31, 200718 yr What when 90% of the autoers are f2p?As if. Bots can't simply auto quests unlike combat or woodcutting. It would be a big hinderance to do just a couple of the easy quests. Also, knowing Jagex, how much do you think the maximum will even be? (someone with a quest cape) It's probably only going to be like 30k. Hacked on January 5, 2007 --> Lost: 56.4M, Santa Hat, Purple Partyhat, Green Partyhat, Christmas Crackerpeople who get rich and do it legit like joob and I always get f'd over in the end.
December 31, 200718 yr I am almost certain that Wolf Whistle/at least part of Summoning will be accesible to F2P for two reasons... 1. It's a combat skill, so I'm assuming that it'll end up like magic where certain spells are inaccesible in the free lands, but it still has the same affect on combat levels, etc... 2. This is not a good time for Jagex to be alienating ANYONE. I'm pretty surethat the vast majority of members(including me) were free players for an extensive amount of time before anteing up the cash. A new skill also seems like a good way to get back some of their lost customers a bit earlier. They WILL eventually get all of them back, seeing as how new players who are still joining by the way, have nothing to complain about losing seeing as how they never experienced them. EDIT: so that's at least on new F2P skill, but seriously doubt that any member's skills will be given up, or that any new F2P skills will be seen in the future. If I remember correctly, the last F2P quest was introduced with runecrafting which was way back when RS2 was released... I don't think we'll be getting a new skill any time soon. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20
December 31, 200718 yr What when 90% of the autoers are f2p?As if. True, however: 90% of autoers are F2P IS NOT EQUAL TO SAYING 90% of F2P are autoers We really need the true percentage of autoers in f2p to say this conversation is pointless and that you commentary was a smart fact wich to my opinion is pointless because RWT will soon die anyways. http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice!
December 31, 200718 yr I agree f2p should have some quests, i'm a member but I have f2p account. Maybe allow them to do recruitment drive and lost city. Open up that island to them. Maybe even allow them to buy drag daggers (no posion) and drag longs. Give em a reason to stay in the game and maybe join p2p having a demo of the drag weapons and give them a new achivment geting 60 attack. Ponies!
December 31, 200718 yr This stinks for skillers :/ I think 96 qp is our max and like 75% of those involve at least one fight against a level over 80 :o Jagex never supported "pure" accounts, and if there were more quests without fighting it would be too easy to get qp, and really lame.
December 31, 200718 yr The funny thing is that F2P players are less likely to buy gold. :lol: Jagex cna make it so that F2P players have no trade limit, but that won't prevent a RWTer from buying a lot of gold before joining members. ARENAscape: Baratus [AS] max hit: 166 with Moon Battle Hammer ixfd64 [AS] max hit: 116 with (untitled spell #2)
January 1, 200818 yr The funny thing is that F2P players are less likely to buy gold. :lol: Jagex cna make it so that F2P players have no trade limit, but that won't prevent a RWTer from buying a lot of gold before joining members. 1. F2P will NEVER have anything available to them that people who don't. 2. Any member could just take a trip to a free world. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20
January 1, 200818 yr :-k As of now I can see 2 possible directions that could happen. 1. The 3k cap is with no quests done. If you have all you get 30k right? So if you have all f2p quests done that would be 30k. If your p2p and you have all quests you get 30k. :| Only problem is p2p has more quests so many people will be ranting :XD: 2. As more quests come out the value one quest gives to your max trade goes down. I.E. 10 quests are out. Each one gives you a 10% increase toward the max(3k for each you do). Now 11 quests come out each is now worth 9.09% to your max you do. :-k This would be somewhat worse because now you are forced to do quests to get to trade better :-s :uhh: Doesn't sound like it will be good We still won't be trading much :roll: in a p2p server, only p2p quest count, in a f2p server on f2p quest count. Porblem solved Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored.
January 1, 200818 yr First off, we all know on January 2nd, the 3k trade limit is coming. However, you can trade more depending on your Quest Points. As we all know, P2P have way way more quests then F2P. Now, before you all start saying "you dont pay, you dont get" listen to my example. BTW, im a member, and i have been for 2 years. If f2p doesnt get any more quests (im not talking about 20 more, im talking about like 2 more) their trade limit is gonna be very low. I'm also not talking about quests like DT or Legends, im talking about a couple stupid quests like "witch's house". Seriously, a couple stupid small easy quests for f2p wont hurt, because its not like thousands of p2p are now gonna say "OMG!! f2p got 1 small mini stupid quest which takes 4 minutes! its soooo not worth being a member anymore!!!!shift+1!!" I kind of agree, although I don't think quests such as legends will be used becuase the requirements for legends are pretty high, including about 6 p2p quests and 6 p2p skills! I also don't think witches' house will be one of them, as the house is in taverly which is renound for NOT being p2p! So, reconsider which quests and the general idea :)
January 1, 200818 yr I don't think there is need for more F2P quests, and Jagex wouldn't do anything like that in my opinion. Retired Tip.It Crew Mapper.
January 1, 200818 yr But if it's 3k limit to f2p and p2p wants still buy/sell something from/to f2p they will have to have that 3k limit too... :boohoo:
January 1, 200818 yr Gertrude's quest is one of the most viable quests, because no-one will care about f2p getting kittens when p2p gets dogs and human-eating octopuses in a fishbowl thanks to summoning. Yes, but one quest won't really make the difference. If they'd really want to make a difference, they'd have to add 20 + quests. And they won't do that. Case closed. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h!
January 1, 200818 yr I wouldn't have a problem with it except the 2 quests mentioned are in p2p areas ...they would have to be quests which only take place in non-members areas. gertrude's cat Kitten lag in varrock :ohnoes: Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012
January 1, 200818 yr hmm.. if summoning is F2P, then F2P will have at least that one new quest that comes with it. Right?
January 2, 200818 yr What when 90% of the autoers are f2p?As if. True, however: 90% of autoers are F2P IS NOT EQUAL TO SAYING 90% of F2P are autoers We really need the true percentage of autoers in f2p to say this conversation is pointless and that you commentary was a smart fact wich to my opinion is pointless because RWT will soon die anyways. I agree with that.i reckon at least 25% of f2p are autoers which is a lot but just go to a area of willow trees or a medium level fishing spot and you will see why. anyway the only quest which stays in f2p areas i can think of is gertrudes cat :? which makes my next statement highly hipocritical when i say that it wouldnt make a differance :-w :P
January 2, 200818 yr What when 90% of the autoers are f2p?As if. True, however: 90% of autoers are F2P IS NOT EQUAL TO SAYING 90% of F2P are autoers We really need the true percentage of autoers in f2p to say this conversation is pointless and that you commentary was a smart fact wich to my opinion is pointless because RWT will soon die anyways. I agree with that.i reckon at least 25% of f2p are autoers which is a lot but just go to a area of willow trees or a medium level fishing spot and you will see why. anyway the only quest which stays in f2p areas i can think of is gertrudes cat :? which makes my next statement highly hipocritical when i say that it wouldnt make a differance :-w :P Not anymore :lol: Haven't seen a goldfarmer/autoer for a week running now! When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~Jonathan SwiftWebsite Updates/Corrections here. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT! Crewbie's Missions!Contributor of the Day!Thanks to artists: Destro3979, Guthix121, Shivers21, and Unoalexi.
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