Did Upset PKers Even Read News Posts?

[Twibb]

Did Upset PKers after the December 10 updates even read news posts afterwards? Just curious, since many of them are saying that PKing is ruined forever, and Bounty Hunter is sttttuuupppiiiiid.

 

 

 

However, this comes from a newspost on December 17, the first thing on the newspost as well.

 

 

 

As promised in last week's newspost, here are some of the initial ideas we have to further improve the player interaction in the game.

 

 

 

1. Expect the first new single-way player-vs-player combat area to hit the game in the first half of next year, along with a number of other PvP updates in the future.

 

 

 

So, there you have it. Not minigame, Combat Area. That means that PKing IS coming back, Jagex somehow did listen to all the protests, and they will "Bring PKing Back" as many shout. Just not like THAT! *Snaps fingers*

 

 

 

What I'm saying is probably not as many people would be as upset as they are if they realized Player vs Player, as Jagex calls it, is coming back.

[kingdomzero]

And how is that a consolation to us PKers. Knowing Jagex, it will be terrible anyway.

[kemikalkadet]

I think it's more the way the handled it rather than what they actually did it. The update was just dumped on everyone with no prior warning at all, there was no real alternative put in place to make up for the update (i'm talking alternative to 1v1 pking) and the fix they promised isn't due for another 6 months which, to a kid, seems like a lifetime away. Also remember that the new item you quoted didn't come for a full week after the update. There was a full 7 days when everyone thought that BH was as good as it was going to get.

[Solidus_77]

And how is that a consolation to us PKers. Knowing Jagex, it will be terrible anyway.

 

 

 

Pathetic justification. Is it really the best you could come up with?

[777thzapster]

I'm glad that they are putting in replacement for pking, but I think Jagex did the right thing even if they had to throw it together and everything. Most of the babbies are going to whine and moan that they didn't put better PvP content in the game when they took out their treasured wilderness but they need to realize that it isn't that long of a wait for one.

 

 

 

Its sad that just because one or two updates people lose faith that Jagex makes good updates. If all Jagex updates suck, then please stop playing such a crappy game and move on with your life.

[Twibb]

Right, its not like I thought PKing was a bad part of the game, JaGex just removed what most people think of it as.

 

 

 

I think right now, PKers aren't upset so much about the removal of the Old Wilderness, and upset about how its not here, back, AND NOW!

 

 

 

Notice the rioters, all they want is PKing back, they usually say now as well.

 

 

 

Yeah, I know this was posted a week afterwards, but think about how quickly Jagex responded to the riots. I doubt any of them read it, cared, or just thought like kingdomzero, "It's gonna be bad, since Jagex is bad!" Don't play the game then, we'd be better off without all the whiners.

[Omali]

Notice the rioters, all they want is PKing back, they usually say now as well.

 

 

 

Those are the same people who were too selfish and ignorant to realize how real world trading was affecting the game and the company irl. Either that, or they were the pkers/stakers who were purchasing gold everytime they were cleaned.

[Twibb]

That's another thing, no one seems to realize that to the company that makes the game, them getting paid is more important then the game itself. If they're losing money off of Real World Trading, then they'll want to remove it.

 

 

 

Some might argue they're losing money from upset PKers leaving, some of them being members. Well, obviously Real World Trading hurt them more than a few memberships. None of us really know.

 

 

 

Back to the subject...?

[warren211]

Well they said the update will come in the first half of the year. and that they're still working on it. so it probably won't be coming any time soon. it could be anywhere till June. and of course like Summoning and construction there's always the possibility it gets delayed. impatient pkers won't like that.

[Twibb]

But that's the point, sure it will be a while until it comes. But get this? It's actually coming! People just are too impatient, don't read, or think Jagex is terrible no matter what they do. They would say that if every update from this day until December 31 next year was awesome in nearly everyone's opinion. They're just angry.

[Nhs_Xc]

You have to keep in mind that JageX will make sure this new 1v1 will not open a back door for realworld traders. It will probably have a system similar to the BH system or if you win you do not get the others goods.

[qeltar]

 

So, there you have it. Not minigame, Combat Area. That means that PKing IS coming back, Jagex somehow did listen to all the protests, and they will "Bring PKing Back" as many shout.

 

 

 

No, it doesn't. You're being far too literal.. just like when Jagex said in a BTS "hold onto your Robin Hood hats" and people started assuming this meant they would be discontinued. Or the people who read Jagex saying something is coming out "in three weeks" and assume that means three weeks to the day from the announcement.

 

 

 

A "combat area" can be part of a minigame. CW is a "combat area", and so are BH and Clan Wars right now.

 

 

 

If you really want to talk about reading news posts, go take a close look at the RWT development diary. In it Jagex clearly states that they didn't have to remove PKing for RWT -- they could have just made it so PKers didn't drop items.

 

 

 

The real motivation is obvious: Jagex got rid of old-style PKing because it sucked. It had turned into a morass of cheating, nastiness and unfair gameplay. They want to redo it, and redo it they will, but I guarantee it will not return in the way it was before.

[magekillr]

omfg no...i definitely didn't read it at all

 

 

 

but did you read this part?

 

 

 

first half of the year

 

 

 

i'm so glad i get to wait until posibly June to get my single wild :roll:

[Twibb]

All right then, we've proved I can never write anything good...

 

 

 

Well Qeltar, that sort of makes sense...

 

 

 

As do Magekillr, you're exactly the type of person I was talking about. People complain and riot and beg to have the Old Wilderness, or even just single PKing back, and boom. There it is. As Qeltar brought up, it won't be the same way, but it'll be back.

 

 

 

Here come the replies..."OMG U stupid nub, we like teh old wildy.."

 

 

 

Well guess what people, THINGS CHANGE!

 

 

 

And I just noticed something Qeltar. I said bring Pking back, I didn't say bring the old way of Pking back, if I did, I didn't mean it.

[jessy87]

aw, i figured this was something that was going to bash pkers/pures for being to selfish/lazy to read the dev diarys.

 

 

 

 

 

but, cmon. what about monster hunters? we are supposed to get some kind of lootshare that works? but no mention of it... at least pkers have a "date" sort of... monster hunters is just unclear.

[casthewiz]

I'm okay with the updates. But I do wish that they could have warned us in november, with the Duel Arena update, so that they could have already had ideas coming in and so these updates would be closer to the date that they shoved this on us...

[xpandax]

All right then, we've proved I can never write anything good...

 

 

 

Well Qeltar, that sort of makes sense...

 

 

 

As do Magekillr, you're exactly the type of person I was talking about. People complain and riot and beg to have the Old Wilderness, or even just single PKing back, and boom. There it is. As Qeltar brought up, it won't be the same way, but it'll be back.

 

 

 

Here come the replies..."OMG U stupid nub, we like teh old wildy.."

 

 

 

Well guess what people, THINGS CHANGE!

 

 

 

And I just noticed something Qeltar. I said bring Pking back, I didn't say bring the old way of Pking back, if I did, I didn't mean it.

 

 

 

Of course they're going to complain... for many pkers, pking was the MAIN REASON they played... now i assume you are a skiller since you seem to have so many negative sentiments towards pkers. Well what the eff would you do if Jagex changed skilling in such a way that it was no longer enjoyable to you, and then a week later they posted that they would change it to give you back some enjoyment... you just have to wait 6 months... 6 months is a long time, especially in a video game. Do you have any idea how much in Runescape you can do in six months?? That is pretty much 6 months wasted for those who only enjoy single pvp.

 

 

 

I'm not complaining, because I just don't play until the 1 v 1 comes out.... But all I can say is that jagex better do it right, because many pkers subscriptions ride on it.

 

 

 

Also i think you seriously underestimate the number of subscriptions jagex gets from pkers... I myself have had 5 different subscriptions running at the same time. Many pkers have multiple subscriptions, and are far more likely to have multiple subscriptions then just a skiller.

[Nukearcher]

All right then, we've proved I can never write anything good...

 

 

 

Well Qeltar, that sort of makes sense...

 

 

 

As do Magekillr, you're exactly the type of person I was talking about. People complain and riot and beg to have the Old Wilderness, or even just single PKing back, and boom. There it is. As Qeltar brought up, it won't be the same way, but it'll be back.

 

 

 

Here come the replies..."OMG U stupid nub, we like teh old wildy.."

 

 

 

Well guess what people, THINGS CHANGE!

 

 

 

And I just noticed something Qeltar. I said bring Pking back, I didn't say bring the old way of Pking back, if I did, I didn't mean it.

 

 

 

Of course they're going to complain... for many pkers, pking was the MAIN REASON they played... now i assume you are a skiller since you seem to have so many negative sentiments towards pkers. Well what the eff would you do if Jagex changed skilling in such a way that it was no longer enjoyable to you, and then a week later they posted that they would change it to give you back some enjoyment... you just have to wait 6 months... 6 months is a long time, especially in a video game. Do you have any idea how much in Runescape you can do in six months?? That is pretty much 6 months wasted for those who only enjoy single pvp.

 

 

 

I'm not complaining, because I just don't play until the 1 v 1 comes out.... But all I can say is that jagex better do it right, because many pkers subscriptions ride on it.

 

 

 

Also i think you seriously underestimate the number of subscriptions jagex gets from pkers... I myself have had 5 different subscriptions running at the same time. Many pkers have multiple subscriptions, and are far more likely to have multiple subscriptions then just a skiller.

 

:thumbup: im waiting for the 1 v 1 comes out too hope they wont mess it up. and your right about those subscriptions, my brother that haven't never pked quitted after Bh update cos even he as skiller think it was bad update

[G_P_Kid]

Yeah and what do I do until June, wise one? Pkers have read it & realize it doesn't come out for a long time, possibly until half way through 2008! I'm sure it's on the bottom of their priority list too. Since Jagex is going RWT crazy maybe it will be worse than Bounty Hunter. However, I obviously can't rate an update not yet out, therefore all we can do is wait... for months..

[magekillr]

All right then, we've proved I can never write anything good...

 

 

 

Well Qeltar, that sort of makes sense...

 

 

 

As do Magekillr, you're exactly the type of person I was talking about. People complain and riot and beg to have the Old Wilderness, or even just single PKing back, and boom. There it is. As Qeltar brought up, it won't be the same way, but it'll be back.

 

 

 

Here come the replies..."OMG U stupid nub, we like teh old wildy.."

 

 

 

Well guess what people, THINGS CHANGE!

 

 

 

And I just noticed something Qeltar. I said bring Pking back, I didn't say bring the old way of Pking back, if I did, I didn't mean it.

 

 

 

go back to miniclip

[kratmus]

why be upset? they have bountyhunter duel arena and even clan wars now!!! alot more than before

[glasscube]

Yes I read the news. A possible 6 months is a long time to REPLACE something that was with the game from near the start. Updates would have been nice if given when they were removed.

[@Dan3HitU]

And how is that a consolation to us PKers. Knowing Jagex, it will be terrible anyway.

 

 

 

Not if the right people are involved with ideas :thumbsup:

[Twibb]

First off, I didn't hear or learn about this game from Miniclip, so you might as well stop there.

 

 

 

 

Of course they're going to complain... for many pkers, pking was the MAIN REASON they played... now i assume you are a skiller since you seem to have so many negative sentiments towards pkers. Well what the eff would you do if Jagex changed skilling in such a way that it was no longer enjoyable to you, and then a week later they posted that they would change it to give you back some enjoyment... you just have to wait 6 months... 6 months is a long time, especially in a video game. Do you have any idea how much in Runescape you can do in six months?? That is pretty much 6 months wasted for those who only enjoy single pvp.

 

 

 

I'm not complaining, because I just don't play until the 1 v 1 comes out.... But all I can say is that jagex better do it right, because many pkers subscriptions ride on it.

 

 

 

Also i think you seriously underestimate the number of subscriptions jagex gets from pkers... I myself have had 5 different subscriptions running at the same time. Many pkers have multiple subscriptions, and are far more likely to have multiple subscriptions then just a skiller.

 

 

 

I already have this discussion going on in the Debate Club, so I won't bother answering it except in a nutshell. Skills are what sets Runescape apart from other things. Not anything PvP.

 

 

 

Geez, you people are starting to sound like small children. I won't wait, I don't wanna, I don't care, I hate everything, PKing won't be back for 6 months at the most, that's too long, I'll be old, I won't play, I'll be dead, yammer yadda yoodle.

 

 

 

Anyone hear the phrase that Anticipation is half the fun of something? The other have would be the actual thing you're waiting for, but that saying is true even if you don't realize it. Speculating about things and trying to figure out what it will be like is sometimes better than the actual thing, or maybe even always.

 

 

 

Take Summoning as an example. JaGex is putting a lot of hype on it, half the threads in the forum are about it. I betcha once its out for a month or so that hype will just die right down.

 

 

 

And guess what, I don't hate PKing, not in any way. Just what PKing has become, an obsession, something not good. Is it wrong to have an obsession within an obsession? (PKing within Runescape)

 

 

 

In fact, I think PKing is vital to the economy. I should say was vital though. When one business grows, other businesses grow to support it.

 

 

 

Pking grew, they needed potions, Herblore grew. They needed food, Cooking and fishing grew. If they need armor, mining and smithing right up there. If they're mages or rangers, fletching and runecrafting. I don't hate PKing, but its removed, and I'm dealing with it. If skills were removed, I'd learn to deal with it.

[kratmus]

they should have done it one by one maybe