Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I didnt have much lag on my end.. And everyone who makes up the "lag" thing really annoys me :| "You only hit me cause of lag, but I've played online 20x more than you" I dont see how :? Either way, you beat me all the other times seemingly having no problem with the lag, so dont use it as an excuse. I got a pretty hardcore lag, about 5 second lag, 2nd life with MK, it was ok just as the Jiggly game started then It went epic. I never said Jigs couldnt, i said its hard. IF you dont have a decent range attack, i should add. If wario has low range why is he top 10, and with one of the most unpredictable gameplays, where you say range is everything O_o Because Wario has the best KO moves in the game, the best grab in the game, and one of the best recoveries in the game. :shock: I didnt have much lag on my end.. And everyone who makes up the "lag" thing really annoys me :| Dont tell Kent my jiggly sucks, I kinda owned his donkey kong until the lag hit. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Yeah but short range means short grabs, and his recovery is [bleep]eable-ish. Dont try to point me out as a hypocrite. I was playing with worse lag than you were until that happened, you're saying the whole game was laggy. Mine was probably as laggy, but 20x worse after i got you to 55. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I'm not talking about game freezing lag. I'm just talking about actions coming out 20 frames after input. His recovery is IMPOSSIBLE to be [bleep]ed, and nobody can edgeguard him, besides MK who still has major problems. MK's bike allows him to reach the very very top of the stage, and Wario has oen of the best air mobility in the games, which allow him to play extremely defensive/offensive. Wario's bite can be used in the air and lasts forever, so it makes up for the short range as you can pretty much jump into your opponent's attacks and bike them. I'd like to stress the air mobility and ko power again. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Contradictioooonn. Anyway I dont like Wario. To be honest, now that I think about it, hes worse than my Pikachu. THATS fail. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Contradictioooonn. Anyway I dont like Wario. To be honest, now that I think about it, hes worse than my Pikachu. THATS fail. What contradiction? And just because XXX doesn't like a character, it doesn't make him good/bad. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toki_Hakurei Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Contradictioooonn. Anyway I dont like Wario. To be honest, now that I think about it, hes worse than my Pikachu. THATS fail. What contradiction? And just because XXX doesn't like a character, it doesn't make him good/bad. I hate Zelda and I get my [wagon] kicked by her mainly because of her Side B and... every single one of her Smashes. :| Click the "Signed in as..." go to Manage ignored users, copy paste Toki_Hakurei.I'm pretty sure having boobs is the most broken super power anyone can ever have. 0_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Oh the contradiction of bad range makes a bad character. But then there's wario :| no more flamewars anyway please? Btw I never said I didnt like Wario, I dont like Wario, or Pikachu, and they're the 2 worst chars I have, but Wario is SOOOOOOOOOOO BAD for me. Zelda is pretty epic. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Bad range is a very bad characteristic, but it doesn't necessarily make or break a character. But it's one hell of a gimp to a character. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Contradictioooonn. Anyway I dont like Wario. To be honest, now that I think about it, hes worse than my Pikachu. THATS fail. What contradiction? And just because XXX doesn't like a character, it doesn't make him good/bad. I hate Zelda and I get my [wagon] kicked by her mainly because of her Side B and... every single one of her Smashes. :| Learn to doge her Din's fire, I have no problem but of course I just counter them and she just really gives me a good recover. EDIT:w00000000000000000000000000000000000000t 2k post DEMON VANQUISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toki_Hakurei Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mainly it's her smashes that piss me off. Her D smash is as quick as MK's but with way less power. And her U and F smashes are deadly and the ending lag of the smashes is minimal which allows her to shield or dodge before I can counter. Click the "Signed in as..." go to Manage ignored users, copy paste Toki_Hakurei.I'm pretty sure having boobs is the most broken super power anyone can ever have. 0_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Every move Zelda has besides her Dsmash has a windup speed of a rock. Abuse it. And her airs are easily predicted as she only has 2 attack options in the air. Dair/Fair/Bair/Uair (the way she is facing) and nair. Abuse it. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mainly it's her smashes that piss me off. Her D smash is as quick as MK's but with way less power. And her U and F smashes are deadly and the ending lag of the smashes is minimal which allows her to shield or dodge before I can counter. Get some distance between you and her. The only reason I don't like Zelda is that she can turn Shiek and he can stop my projectiles with that goddamned whip of his. Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mainly it's her smashes that piss me off. Her D smash is as quick as MK's but with way less power. And her U and F smashes are deadly and the ending lag of the smashes is minimal which allows her to shield or dodge before I can counter. Get some distance between you and her. The only reason I don't like Zelda is that she can turn Shiek and he can stop my projectiles with that goddamned whip of his. I wouldn't really recommend this if you're playing a really good Zelda... her up-b mindgames can be crazy sometimes... And Sheik and Zelda are 2 completely different characters, or at least in my opinion. Never fought somebody who alternates in game [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mainly it's her smashes that piss me off. Her D smash is as quick as MK's but with way less power. And her U and F smashes are deadly and the ending lag of the smashes is minimal which allows her to shield or dodge before I can counter. Get some distance between you and her. The only reason I don't like Zelda is that she can turn Shiek and he can stop my projectiles with that goddamned whip of his. I wouldn't really recommend this if you're playing a really good Zelda... her up-b mindgames can be crazy sometimes... And Sheik and Zelda are 2 completely different characters, or at least in my opinion. Never fought somebody who alternates in game I have :cry: But he preffers Sheik, only switches to Zelda is he has high stock and you don't. Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mainly it's her smashes that piss me off. Her D smash is as quick as MK's but with way less power. And her U and F smashes are deadly and the ending lag of the smashes is minimal which allows her to shield or dodge before I can counter. Get some distance between you and her. The only reason I don't like Zelda is that she can turn Shiek and he can stop my projectiles with that goddamned whip of his. I wouldn't really recommend this if you're playing a really good Zelda... her up-b mindgames can be crazy sometimes... And Sheik and Zelda are 2 completely different characters, or at least in my opinion. Never fought somebody who alternates in game I have :cry: But he preffers Sheik, only switches to Zelda is he has high stock and you don't. Which = a handicap... I'm talking about a player who alternates to refresh attacks/switches to KO for Zelda. Somebody equally skilled with both. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mainly it's her smashes that piss me off. Her D smash is as quick as MK's but with way less power. And her U and F smashes are deadly and the ending lag of the smashes is minimal which allows her to shield or dodge before I can counter. Get some distance between you and her. The only reason I don't like Zelda is that she can turn Shiek and he can stop my projectiles with that goddamned whip of his. Sheik is a girl. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mainly it's her smashes that piss me off. Her D smash is as quick as MK's but with way less power. And her U and F smashes are deadly and the ending lag of the smashes is minimal which allows her to shield or dodge before I can counter. Get some distance between you and her. The only reason I don't like Zelda is that she can turn Shiek and he can stop my projectiles with that goddamned whip of his. Sheik is a girl. According the Ocarina of Time, and the Manga, Zelda changes her sex , skin color, eye color, physic, and voice when she becomes Sheik. The manga even says that she changes everything, including that. EDIT: The game refers to Sheik as a male but, we never know that it's Zelda in disguise, but in the Manga we go into deeper information, but seeing as how Sheik doesn't exist because it's just Zelda in disguise Sheik is a girl disguised as a boy but thanks to magic really is a boy DON'T [bleep] AROUND WITH MAGIC OR YOU WILL BE A HE/SHE!!!!! Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Offtopic: My friend's last name is "sheikh" not even joking right now... :shock: Says on Smashboards and on Zelda Wiki that all members of the Sheikah tribes are females, since there are no confirmed males. Therefore Sheik is a girl. She also screams in a high-pitched voice (although notably different from Zelda's) when you KO her. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Offtopic: My friend's last name is "sheikh" not even joking right now... :shock: Says on Smashboards and on Zelda Wiki that all members of the Sheikah tribes are females, since there are no confirmed males. Therefore Sheik is a girl. She also screams in a high-pitched voice (although notably different from Zelda's) when you KO her. : [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Offtopic: My friend's last name is "sheikh" not even joking right now... :shock: Says on Smashboards and on Zelda Wiki that all members of the Sheikah tribes are females, since there are no confirmed males. Therefore Sheik is a girl. She also screams in a high-pitched voice (although notably different from Zelda's) when you KO her. : Ok, alright you got me. There's a POSSIBILITY that there are males. But out of all the Sheikahs revealed and hinted at, there are no males. So the chance of Sheik being one is..low? I mean, if you were going to change your identity to say, idk, Antarctican, and you knew there were not known Antarctican males, would you make your disguise a female disguise, or a male disguise? If Zelda DID change into a male, well first that would be kinda odd, how would that feel? But that's besides the point. If Zelda DID change into into a male, the disguise wouldn't be very convincing then. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [hide=]R.I.P Brawl Club :XD: This thread really lost attention... It's now Gallade posting pictures, and people commenting how they suck. Obviously they don't know funny or cool even if it hit them in the face. Don't do that again. This is the same type of crap that got the funny pictures thread banned. Yeah that's why I'm posting videos instead of the pictures you think fail. But since there's not nearly enough people to flame at me for something as stupid as that, this thread is in the green. Just because no one is telling you not to doesn't mean you should continue doing it. If you find a video of a picture funny, that's fine. There is no need to post every single one you find funny on here though.[/hide] To think this happend 20 pages back........ Offtopic: My friend's last name is "sheikh" not even joking right now... :shock: Says on Smashboards and on Zelda Wiki that all members of the Sheikah tribes are females, since there are no confirmed males. Therefore Sheik is a girl. She also screams in a high-pitched voice (although notably different from Zelda's) when you KO her. : Ok, alright you got me. There's a POSSIBILITY that there are males. But out of all the Sheikahs revealed and hinted at, there are no males. So the chance of Sheik being one is..low? I mean, if you were going to change your identity to say, idk, Antarctican, and you knew there were not known Antarctican males, would you make your disguise a female disguise, or a male disguise? If Zelda DID change into a male, well first that would be kinda odd, how would that feel? But that's besides the point. If Zelda DID change into into a male, the disguise wouldn't be very convincing then. So is it a coincidence that Ganondorf is the only male Gerudo??? Zelda universe is gender confused. Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Ganondorf isn't in a disguise. It's logical that he could be a male Gerudo. However, Zelda isn't Sheikah by birth, so when disguising herself, she has no logical reason to become a male. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toki_Hakurei Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [hide=]R.I.P Brawl Club :XD: This thread really lost attention... It's now Gallade posting pictures, and people commenting how they suck. Obviously they don't know funny or cool even if it hit them in the face. Don't do that again. This is the same type of crap that got the funny pictures thread banned. Yeah that's why I'm posting videos instead of the pictures you think fail. But since there's not nearly enough people to flame at me for something as stupid as that, this thread is in the green. Just because no one is telling you not to doesn't mean you should continue doing it. If you find a video of a picture funny, that's fine. There is no need to post every single one you find funny on here though.[/hide] To think this happend 20 pages back........ Never remind me of that bs that happened many months ago, and besides I now post more videos that relate to how combos are made and other resourceful stuff like that that relate to the current discussion rather than videos that are either funny or just way too epic. But still I'll post an epic or funny video from time to time just to boost the overall mood. Click the "Signed in as..." go to Manage ignored users, copy paste Toki_Hakurei.I'm pretty sure having boobs is the most broken super power anyone can ever have. 0_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Sudden inspiration, 2 characters who would be awesome in the next SSB: Issac: From Golden Sun, I think he's an assist trophy, but I just started to play Golden Sun again and I realized how much that game owns. A f2p Arcanists guy :D :lol: I just played around with the movesets, and I think both would be pretty cool. Not that either has ANY chance, but it was fun to think about. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Ganondorf isn't in a disguise. It's logical that he could be a male Gerudo. However, Zelda isn't Sheikah by birth, so when disguising herself, she has no logical reason to become a male. You said that the character Sheik being the only male Sheikah is low, well what about Ganondorfs chances? He is the only male and he had low chance, now low and behold, the only male Gerudo so far. I'm just using Ganondorf as a counterexample to your statement about Sheik not being male, just because something has a low chance does not mean it's impossible. Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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