Reporting back guys, after successful use of both resources (thanks to those who suggested them) I managed to overcome my friend with the combined use of metaknight and link. Thanks again guys :D

 

NOOB YOU USED META KNIGHT!!!!!! :shame: :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

Never...ever....come here again :shame:

 

Agreed because people who resort to Meta Knight are automatically desperate noobs who can't win.

Reporting back guys, after successful use of both resources (thanks to those who suggested them) I managed to overcome my friend with the combined use of metaknight and link. Thanks again guys :D

 

NOOB YOU USED META KNIGHT!!!!!! :shame: :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

Never...ever....come here again :shame:

 

Agreed because people who resort to Meta Knight are automatically desperate noobs who can't win.

 

 

 

Disagreed.

 

 

 

Get more skill if you can't win. Scrub.

Reporting back guys, after successful use of both resources (thanks to those who suggested them) I managed to overcome my friend with the combined use of metaknight and link. Thanks again guys :D

 

NOOB YOU USED META KNIGHT!!!!!! :shame: :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

Never...ever....come here again :shame:

 

Agreed because people who resort to Meta Knight are automatically desperate noobs who can't win.

 

 

 

Disagreed.

 

 

 

Get more skill if you can't win. Scrub.

 

Sorry. High tiers don't agree with my playing style, because I get more of a rush owning people with a lower tier character. But if someone is gonna be a douche by using a broken tier character then screw it because they take the fun out of the game by being a jerk. Now go troll someone else's thread like you usually do. :thumbdown:

Reporting back guys, after successful use of both resources (thanks to those who suggested them) I managed to overcome my friend with the combined use of metaknight and link. Thanks again guys :D

 

NOOB YOU USED META KNIGHT!!!!!! :shame: :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

Never...ever....come here again :shame:

 

Agreed because people who resort to Meta Knight are automatically desperate noobs who can't win.

 

 

 

Disagreed.

 

 

 

Get more skill if you can't win. Scrub.

 

Sorry. High tiers don't agree with my playing style, because I get more of a rush owning people with a lower tier character. But if someone is gonna be a douche by using a broken tier character then screw it because they take the fun out of the game by being a jerk. Now go troll someone else's thread like you usually do. :thumbdown:

 

 

 

Like I have anywhere the level of skill to abuse metaknight :lol:, I use him because he makes a cool noise when he spins, not because I have the ability to use him and be invincible ;)

Reporting back guys, after successful use of both resources (thanks to those who suggested them) I managed to overcome my friend with the combined use of metaknight and link. Thanks again guys :D

 

NOOB YOU USED META KNIGHT!!!!!! :shame: :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

Never...ever....come here again :shame:

 

Agreed because people who resort to Meta Knight are automatically desperate noobs who can't win.

 

 

 

Disagreed.

 

 

 

Get more skill if you can't win. Scrub.

 

Sorry. High tiers don't agree with my playing style, because I get more of a rush owning people with a lower tier character. But if someone is gonna be a douche by using a broken tier character then screw it because they take the fun out of the game by being a jerk. Now go troll someone else's thread like you usually do. :thumbdown:

 

 

 

Like I have anywhere the level of skill to abuse metaknight :lol:, I use him because he makes a cool noise when he spins, not because I have the ability to use him and be invincible ;)

 

It's not that hard to be invincible with him to be honest...

Reporting back guys, after successful use of both resources (thanks to those who suggested them) I managed to overcome my friend with the combined use of metaknight and link. Thanks again guys :D

 

NOOB YOU USED META KNIGHT!!!!!! :shame: :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

Never...ever....come here again :shame:

 

Agreed because people who resort to Meta Knight are automatically desperate noobs who can't win.

 

 

 

Disagreed.

 

 

 

Get more skill if you can't win. Scrub.

 

Sorry. High tiers don't agree with my playing style, because I get more of a rush owning people with a lower tier character. But if someone is gonna be a douche by using a broken tier character then screw it because they take the fun out of the game by being a jerk. Now go troll someone else's thread like you usually do. :thumbdown:

 

 

 

Like I have anywhere the level of skill to abuse metaknight :lol:, I use him because he makes a cool noise when he spins, not because I have the ability to use him and be invincible ;)

 

I'll try to be less harsh, but I could probably beat you just by using Dsmash, Grab, tornado, and UpB. All you really need is those moves and you can beat people far above your level with those moves. A little exaggerated, but it shows how good MK is. Props for using Link, though.

I gotta love MK's glide though, I which Falco had one...then I'd be set.

I gotta love MK's glide though, I wish Falco had one...then I'd be set.

Agreed. Super Power, Range, and friggen absolutely 0 lag. None.

Overpowered characters should not even exist. That's why Brawl+ made it so that everyone is equal.

omg my friend just pwned my jiggs with ike (he was at like 200% >.>)

 

i havent played in like a month lol

 

after school it will be better

 

 

 

And wtf all he does is mash his C-stick

 

olimar Dsmash spam = wtf?

 

if i am far away he throws his pikmen

 

if im close he spams his Dsmash/Fsmash

 

If i go in the air i get pwned by his Usmash >.>

 

 

 

(i was samus btw)

 

I am sure i could own him with luigi tho

I'll try to be less harsh, but I could probably beat you just by using Dsmash, Grab, tornado, and UpB. All you really need is those moves and you can beat people far above your level with those moves. A little exaggerated, but it shows how good MK is. Props for using Link, though.

 

 

 

Snake is just as broken as MK.

I'll try to be less harsh, but I could probably beat you just by using Dsmash, Grab, tornado, and UpB. All you really need is those moves and you can beat people far above your level with those moves. A little exaggerated, but it shows how good MK is. Props for using Link, though.

 

 

 

Snake is just as broken as MK.

 

Nah Meta Knight is more broken than Snake. Meta Knight can pull off more crap due to his small size and speed.

Snake has fast and broken tilts and an easy semi camping game.

 

Overpowered and quick.

 

 

 

MK is still more broken than Snake, but Snakes range is MUCH more broken than MKs, since MK has a sword and snake just has fists and feet..

There's like five characters I absolutely hate in Brawl because they are either broken or spammy.

 

 

 

Meta Knight: I don't really need an explanation for this broken douche.

 

Fox: Spammy laser, relies too much on the d-tilt to d-smash combo.

 

Falco: Chain grabber, spammy laser, laser lock.

 

Wolf: Has an f-smash that's faster than MK's, slightly spammy laser.

 

Ice Climbers: Super spammer, has the ability to pull off infinite chaingrabs.

There's like five characters I absolutely hate in Brawl because they are either broken or spammy.

 

 

 

Meta Knight: I don't really need an explanation for this broken douche.

 

Fox: Spammy laser, relies too much on the d-tilt to d-smash combo.

 

Falco: Chain grabber, spammy laser, laser lock.

 

Wolf: Has an f-smash that's faster than MK's, slightly spammy laser.

 

Ice Climbers: Super spammer, has the ability to pull off infinite chaingrabs.

 

 

 

That's hypocritical since Mario has a gimp that gimps 90% of the roster, and Snake has the most broken gameplay other than MK.

 

 

 

MK: Cant say much.

 

Fox: LOL? Spammy laser? Have you not seen how pro's play fox?

 

Falco: Cant say much.

 

Wolf: LOL again? Wolf is all about spacing.

 

ICs: Super spammer? It takes a hell of alot of skill to actually get 0-death on another person. Not to mention the fact a normal person should avoid and space ICs. If an IC player does not use grabs they WILL lose.

 

 

 

Why dont you add Snake, Gallade? Do you actually find him LESS broken than Wolf?! WOLF is not broken! I can assure that.

Snake has fast and broken tilts and an easy semi camping game.

 

Overpowered and quick.

 

 

 

MK is still more broken than Snake, but Snakes range is MUCH more broken than MKs, since MK has a sword and snake just has fists and feet..

 

Well, physical appearance aside, I consider myself an experienced Snake player, and I can say in no way is Snake close to as broken as MK. They both do excellent against lower tier characters, but there is 1 shining difference. It's not about how good they actually are, it's about matchups. Snake has too many counters... Metaknight has none. That's all there is to it. MK's worst matchup is himself. DDD and Falco has a 70:30 chance to win against Snake.

 

 

 

And annoying has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with a how good a character is.

We all know matchups are a complete load of [cabbage]. IF snake had these 'bad matchups' he wouldnt be number 2, nor former number 1 would he? No, he'd be like 7.

 

 

 

But because hes AMAZINGLY broken for his size and weight, he's number 2.

 

Some reason he's like the 3rd heaviest. Has epic quick tilts which kill way too easy.

 

 

 

Anyway no need to get into this stupid discussion crap again.

There's like five characters I absolutely hate in Brawl because they are either broken or spammy.

 

 

 

Meta Knight: I don't really need an explanation for this broken douche.

 

Fox: Spammy laser, relies too much on the d-tilt to d-smash combo.

 

Falco: Chain grabber, spammy laser, laser lock.

 

Wolf: Has an f-smash that's faster than MK's, slightly spammy laser.

 

Ice Climbers: Super spammer, has the ability to pull off infinite chaingrabs.

 

 

 

That's hypocritical since Mario has a gimp that gimps 90% of the roster, and Snake has the most broken gameplay other than MK.

 

 

 

MK: Cant say much.

 

Fox: LOL? Spammy laser? Have you not seen how pro's play fox?

 

Falco: Cant say much.

 

Wolf: LOL again? Wolf is all about spacing.

 

ICs: Super spammer? It takes a hell of alot of skill to actually get 0-death on another person. Not to mention the fact a normal person should avoid and space ICs. If an IC player does not use grabs they WILL lose.

 

 

 

Why dont you add Snake, Gallade? Do you actually find him LESS broken than Wolf?! WOLF is not broken! I can assure that.

 

There are three reasons why I'm not gonna bother arguing with you anymore.

 

 

 

1. You get your information from a place that's not SmashBoards.

 

2. You think you know the metagames of every character.

 

3. You cause discussions to stretch a few pages.

And you are ignorant to the most important thing in Brawl. In fact, Matchups are 1000x more important than tier list, but of course being oblivious to everything as you are, you don't know that. In fact, you think they don't exist. Big size = telegraphed recovery = fierce gimps, and succesptable to chaingrabs and edgeguards.

 

 

 

If there are no matchups, tell me, does DK have a better chance than Toon link against a DDD? DK is higher on the tier list then toon link, so he must do better in every single matchup. No. This is ignorant. Matchups is what allows some characters to have infinites, be always in the blindzone, perfectly counter the other because they can abuse their weakness, etc.

 

 

 

Edit: For clarification, DDD is countered by TL, and DK is infinited extremely easily against DDD.

 

 

 

Learn to... learn.

And you are ignorant to the most important thing in Brawl. In fact, Matchups are 1000x more important than tier list, but of course being oblivious to everything as you are, you don't know that. In fact, you think they don't exist. Big size = telegraphed recovery = fierce gimps, and succesptable to chaingrabs and edgeguards.

 

 

 

If there are no matchups, tell me, does DK have a better chance than Toon link against a DDD? DK is higher on the tier list then toon link, so he must do better in every single matchup. No. This is ignorant. Matchups is what allows some characters to have infinites, be always in the blindzone, perfectly counter the other because they can abuse their weakness, etc.

 

 

 

Edit: For clarification, DDD is countered by TL, and DK is infinited extremely easily against DDD.

 

 

 

Learn to... learn.

 

Well he can't learn because he doesn't get the right information, and the only place with the right information is SmashBoards, but there is one problem: Ray hates SmashBoards for some reason.

And you are ignorant to the most important thing in Brawl. In fact, Matchups are 1000x more important than tier list, but of course being oblivious to everything as you are, you don't know that. In fact, you think they don't exist. Big size = telegraphed recovery = fierce gimps, and succesptable to chaingrabs and edgeguards.

 

 

 

If there are no matchups, tell me, does DK have a better chance than Toon link against a DDD? DK is higher on the tier list then toon link, so he must do better in every single matchup. No. This is ignorant. Matchups is what allows some characters to have infinites, be always in the blindzone, perfectly counter the other because they can abuse their weakness, etc.

 

 

 

Edit: For clarification, DDD is countered by TL, and DK is infinited extremely easily against DDD.

 

 

 

Learn to... learn.

 

Well he can't learn because he doesn't get the right information, and the only place with the right information is SmashBoards, but there is one problem: Ray hates SmashBoards for some reason.

 

Because of "bias," which is ridiculous, considering it's "the" smash forums. All pros go there, including M2K.

Ok Kent, you're right. But if the Matchups for snake (the person I said they didnt matter for, sorry if it seemed I meant everyone) why is he #2?

 

That's a serious question. And by that, i mean I seriously do not understand how Snake is #2 simply because he is the best counter to MK. Other characters are close, not as close, but pretty close, to Snakes game against MK. Example.. Yoshi. He's low because, well he just kinda sucks. But Snake, however, has bad matchups against other people, yes I know matchups are important, VERY important, but how exactly is Snake so high up when his only decent/important matchup is MK?

 

 

 

 

There are three reasons why I'm not gonna bother arguing with you anymore.

 

 

 

1. You get your information from a place that's not SmashBoards.

 

2. You think you know the metagames of every character.

 

3. You cause discussions to stretch a few pages.

 

 

 

1. I dont get my information anywhere, and why exactly am I wrong for saying Pros dont spam lasers (Fox) and Wolfs metagame is basically spacing the opponent, since he really cant do much without his spacing.

 

 

 

2. ^

 

 

 

3. Yeah isnt that the point? It is a forum.

 

 

 

Because of "bias," which is ridiculous, considering it's "the" smash forums. All pros go there, including M2K.

 

 

 

[bleep] sake are you 2 completely [bleep]ing [developmentally delayed]ed?

 

Gallade, stop sucking up to Kent,

 

Kent, stop thinking everyone has to do EVERTHING the same way as EVERYONE ELSE.

Ok Kent, you're right. But if the Matchups for snake (the person I said they didnt matter for, sorry if it seemed I meant everyone) why is he #2?

 

That's a serious question. And by that, i mean I seriously do not understand how Snake is #2 simply because he is the best counter to MK. Other characters are close, not as close, but pretty close, to Snakes game against MK. Example.. Yoshi. He's low because, well he just kinda sucks. But Snake, however, has bad matchups against other people, yes I know matchups are important, VERY important, but how exactly is Snake so high up when his only decent/important matchup is MK?

 

It's because Snake is a GREAT counterpick character. Besides his glaring CP's, he has great matchups on some of the characters. He's good at what he does. If a character can't abuse Snake's weakness (Falcon) then Snake completely dominates.

 

 

 

 

[bleep] sake are you 2 completely [bleep] [developmentally delayed]?

 

Gallade, stop sucking up to Kent,

 

Kent, stop thinking everyone has to do EVERTHING the same way as EVERYONE ELSE.

 

If all you were trying to do was to be original, that would be fine. That's not what you're doing. You're ignore every single bit of evidence from Smashboards. This is nowhere close to applying a certain AT to a metagame, or accepting that one character has a superior matchup over another. Denial =/= not agreeing.

1st, I kinda understand.

 

 

 

2nd, I do not give a [cabbage] about smashboards ok? I do not give a [cabbage] about people who get info from a website and think they're top knotch crap because they know stuff. Obviously, I have lurked and posted in smashboards. Many people are biased. (Falcon, Link, Sonic, Snake, MK users?)

 

 

 

EDIT: Woops sorry didnt mean to imply you or anyone here Kent.