Smash Club.

[ikeforever]

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... let me get this straight... C. Falcon was one of the best in Melee???? Geez go figure..

[RayOxide]

HOW THE [bleep] DO CPU [bleep]ING OUT PRIORITISE A [bleep]ING SHIELD!?

 

THATS NOT [bleep]ING POSSIBLE!

[Inuashakent]

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... let me get this straight... C. Falcon was one of the best in Melee???? Geez go figure..

 

Mid tier, but he had great priority. Now he has the worst, much like Marth and his grabs.

 

 

 

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Btw kent sakurai (?) invented meta knight. And is friends with creators of snake

 

 

 

Top 2 anyone?

 

 

 

@Kent again

 

 

 

Falcon doesnt suck - Sakurai sucks.

 

Make the new guy so overpowered its not funny and make the best veteran the worst.

 

get [bleep] sakurai

 

>_>

 

What? I didn't say anything about MK/Snake, but CFalcon is his favorite character.

 

 

 

HOW THE [bleep] DO CPU [bleep] OUT PRIORITISE A [bleep] SHIELD!?

 

THATS NOT [bleep] POSSIBLE!

 

What?

 

 

 

yoshis egg roll = same priority as falcon punch :P

 

but he still has uber ko power.

 

 

 

And I should say Falcos IN AIR ko power is hard - it needs to be hit like a sweetspot and he isnt that fast.

 

And the jump height takes a while to get used to

 

His airgame is not a defect, but an obstacle. No kidding though, Falcon sucks. Priority is an obstacle, and one that makes him the worst character in the game.

 

 

 

In melee he had unstoppable priority... oh how the great has fallen.

 

Don't feel like editing, I meant to say Priority isn't an obstacle but a defect.

[ikeforever]

yea, i can see c. falcon with better priority in melee....sadly those days are gone :cry:

[RayOxide]

I was playing brawl and got really pissed off

 

 

 

Due to the fact CPU was dodging every attack and still hit through my shield.

 

 

 

WTFNESS

[Inuashakent]

I was playing brawl and got really pissed off

 

 

 

Due to the fact CPU was dodging every attack and still hit through my shield.

 

 

 

WTFNESS

 

I think you mean perfect shield. Bascially you shield within 5 frames of the attack, and you have no Shield lag.

[ThurinEthir]

Captain Falcon is getting worse and worse. He was great in the N64 version. Almost.

 

Falco is awesome, great in Melee and quite good in Brawl. :thumbup:

[Crazykid1321]

Captain Falcon is getting worse and worse. He was great in the N64 version. Almost.

 

Falco is awesome, great in Melee and quite good in Brawl. :thumbup:

 

 

 

What about Melee Falcon? He was near perfect...

[Inuashakent]

Captain Falcon is getting worse and worse. He was great in the N64 version. Almost.

 

Falco is awesome, great in Melee and quite good in Brawl. :thumbup:

 

 

 

What about Melee Falcon? He was near perfect...

 

Lol, no he wasn't. All characters in Melee has big flaws. Fox = Easiest to combo EVAR. DK could almost do 0 to death with 1 grab. Same with Falco and falcon, but not as much. Marth had no projectiles, etc.

[JustAGamer]

All characters in Melee has big flaws. Fox = Easiest to combo EVAR. DK could almost do 0 to death with 1 grab.

 

 

 

If there's one thing I ever hated in that game, it was kirby suicides while I was playing Fox. -.-

 

 

 

I loved Fox's speediness (is that a word?) in Melee. I dont play him as much now in brawl because they cut down on that edge some. :(

[Macmaster92]

 

I loved Fox's speediness (is that a word?) in Melee. I dont play him as much now in brawl because they cut down on that edge some. :(

 

 

 

No they didn't cut down on it, Meta Knight just stole it and channeled it into his sword. ;)

[Inuashakent]

 

I loved Fox's speediness (is that a word?) in Melee. I dont play him as much now in brawl because they cut down on that edge some. :(

 

 

 

No they didn't cut down on it, Meta Knight just stole it and channeled it into his sword. ;)

 

Na, Metaknight didn't steal it, Fox transformed into a MK because he decided he wanted to be gay.

 

 

 

Fox wasn't as speedy as much as you can say... offensive.

[RayOxide]

So Kent hates MK?

 

 

 

Anyway I find it ironic how I disliked falcon when melee was out. Thought he was gay :?

 

 

 

Could fox spam his laser in melee?

 

And could falco too? :x

 

 

 

And since all characters had "big flaws" in melee then Falcon must have been near perfect.

[Macmaster92]

Haha, lots of people hate MK.

 

 

 

You could fire they're lasers much faster and easier then now. Fox's laser used to go much farther, but Falco's didn't make you flinch.( I think) So yes it was much easier for Fox to spam

[Inuashakent]

So Kent hates MK?

 

 

 

Anyway I find it ironic how I disliked falcon when melee was out. Thought he was gay :?

 

 

 

Could fox spam his laser in melee?

 

And could falco too? :x

 

 

 

And since all characters had "big flaws" in melee then Falcon must have been near perfect.

 

Mk is unbeatable, honestly. There is no surprise I consider him gay. Falco had the best projectile in Melee. I don't see how Falcon is near perfect. Bad out of shield options, horrid recovery, ect. But almost all characters could be played at pro level in Melee.

 

 

 

Haha, lots of people hate MK.

 

 

 

You could fire they're lasers much faster and easier then now. Fox's laser used to go much farther, but Falco's didn't make you flinch. So yes it was much easier to spam

 

No, it's not that. In fact, Falco's lasers were much better in Melee, because of Shffls. Very fast, and if you get hit you do flinch, which is why people combo you with that. Flinch + hard to avoid and approach + very fast + lagless + combo able + great approach tactic = naice shot.

[RayOxide]

Tbh falcons recovery isnt that bad.

 

Only problem is, he gets gimped.

 

His dive does have a bit of a huger "sweet spot" on the edge that other peoples.

[Inuashakent]

Tbh falcons recovery isnt that bad.

 

Only problem is, he gets gimped.

 

His dive does have a bit of a huger "sweet spot" on the edge that other peoples.

 

What else is needed to make a recovery bad? His "sweetspot" is not obtainable in Melee. Once you're off the edge, you're screwed.

 

 

 

Also, about the stage subject, they are changing the stage rules. I guess they noticed how sucky most of the CP stages were.

 

 

 

The primary objective of this ruleset is to eliminate the bull**** for tournament play that tournament players shouldn't really have to deal with. The goal of this rule set is to test the skill of the players.

 

 

 

Stage List:

 

 

 

Starter

 

Battlefield

 

Final Destination

 

Smashville

 

Yoshi's Island

 

 

 

Counter

 

Brinstar

 

Castle Siege

 

Delfino

 

Frigate Orpheon

 

Lylat Cruise

 

Halberd

 

Pokémon Stadium 1

 

 

 

Banned

 

75m

 

Big Blue

 

Bridge of Eldin

 

Corneria

 

Distant Planet

 

Flat Zone 2

 

Green Hill Zone

 

Hanenbow

 

Hyrule Temple

 

Jungle Japes

 

Luigi's Mansion

 

Mario Bros.

 

Mushroomy Kingdom I

 

Mushroomy Kingdom II

 

New Pork City

 

Norfair

 

Pictochat

 

Pirate Ship

 

Rainbow Cruise

 

Rumble Falls

 

Shadow Moses

 

Spear Pillar

 

The Summit

 

Wario Ware

 

Green Greens

 

Mario Circuit

 

Onett

 

Pokémon Stadium 2

 

Port Town Aero Dive

 

Skyworld

 

Yoshi's Island (Pipes)

 

 

 

Main Rules

 

 

 

- Matches are 3 stock, 8 minutes. For teams, life stealing is allowed and Team Attack is ON.

 

 

 

- Items are set to off and none.

 

 

 

- At the beginning of a set, each player may strike 2 stages from the available 11. Of these, only 1 can be from the 4 Neutrals listed above. You may however choose to strike 2 counterpick stages.

 

 

 

- 1st match, characters are chosen with double blind picks. After that, advanced slob picks- Loser of 1st match pick stages, the winner of the 1st match picks character, then loser of 1st match picks character. Continue this as necessary until the set reaches completion. Standard sets are best of 3, finals or semi-fianls are left to the discretion of the tournament host, although best of 5 is recommended for time constraints.

 

 

 

- All forms of stalling are banned. Stalling- The act of deliberately avoiding any and all conflict so that one may make the game unplayable. This includes MK infinite cape, excessive edge stalling, or any form of stalling under the stage (DK spin, sonic charge B, snake infinite down B teching, etc).

 

 

 

- Any suicide KOs on the final stock resulting in sudden death will result in a loss for the user of this tactic. If it would be a suicide KO and the match screen shows a decisive winner, go with that instead. A Bowsercide final KO results in a win for the Bowser player.

 

 

 

- If the timer runs out, the victor is determined first by stock and then by percentage. In the event of a sudden death, both players are to suicide IMMEDIATELY. No fighting with bombs @ 300. At the results screen, regardless of what the screen says, the player with the higher DAMAGE TAKEN is the loser. No exceptions. In the result of a tie, the match will be discarded and played over, same characters and stage. For teams, if this should ever happen, add the damage taken instead for both teams.

 

 

 

- Any action that can prevent the game from continuing (i.e., freezing, disappearing characters, game reset, etc.) will result in a forfeit of that match for the player that initiated the action. You are responsible for knowing your own character, and must be wary about accidentally triggering one of these effects.

 

 

 

Side Rules

 

 

 

- In the event that there is a dispute for controller ports or character color choice, both players will play Rock Paper Scissors for it.

 

 

 

- DDD's downthrow infinite is banned. However, the chaingrab is still legal. The chaingrab is noticeably different from the infinite, as there is a dash between grabs.

 

 

 

- Dave's Stupid Rule: No player may choose the stage that player last won on (unless agreed upon).

 

 

 

- BYOC. Bring your own controller. Period. Bring 2 if you can.

 

 

 

- You are responsible for your own controller and name tag. Any malfunctions or errors that occur are your responsibility, so bring an extra controller if possible and always check to make sure you're using the correct settings before a match is played.

 

 

 

- Don't be a douche. The tournament host reserves the right at any time to make you leave the tournament. This should never happen.

 

 

 

- No Johns.

[RayOxide]

Lol?^

 

They banned almost every stage rofl. Fail.

 

 

 

For someone like me, the amount of skill I have (none), and not picking mk just shows I have a brain :D :D :D

 

 

 

Anyway what the hell was that quote from?

[Caxis]

I have a few ideas for the league..

 

 

 

1) We have two big teams that play against each other.

 

 

 

2) Instead of a big team, we have small teams of 2 players each. Each game could be 2v2, or we have some 1v1s and some 2v2s.

 

 

 

3) No teams at all, so we all play against each other.

 

 

 

For stages..

 

 

 

1) A set list of stages and conditions, this would work best with teams.

 

 

 

Example:

 

Final Destination - items off

 

Smashville - items on

 

Battlefield - 2v2, items off

 

etc.

 

 

 

2) We use the tournament legal stages, and just use those.

 

 

 

3) We play on all legal stages, or just select a few stages, and even add some tournament-banned stages, like a tour.

 

 

 

Example:

 

(Start) Battlefield > Smashville > Delfino > Lylat Cruise > Halberd > Final Destination (End)

 

 

 

We can also add various conditions too.

 

 

 

Personally, I like the small teams of two and the tour style of stage selection.

[RayOxide]

Nice idea.

 

Noones going to agree though.

 

 

 

Maybe just have 2 tournaments one for fun one more serious..

 

 

 

 

 

Time to play some brawl now! Gotta reload my toon link epicness. :twisted:

[Macmaster92]

 

 

 

Haha, lots of people hate MK.

 

 

 

You could fire they're lasers much faster and easier then now. Fox's laser used to go much farther, but Falco's didn't make you flinch. So yes it was much easier to spam

 

No, it's not that. In fact, Falco's lasers were much better in Melee, because of Shffls. Very fast, and if you get hit you do flinch, which is why people combo you with that. Flinch + hard to avoid and approach + very fast + lagless + combo able + great approach tactic = naice shot.

 

 

 

Haha, about 1 minute after I posted i thought, " uhhh I think Falco's laser did flinch you...", #-o I changed it. :oops:

 

 

 

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I have a few ideas for the league..

 

 

 

1) We have two big teams that play against each other.

 

 

 

2) Instead of a big team, we have small teams of 2 players each. Each game could be 2v2, or we have some 1v1s and some 2v2s.

 

 

 

3) No teams at all, so we all play against each other.

 

 

 

For stages..

 

 

 

1) A set list of stages and conditions, this would work best with teams.

 

 

 

Example:

 

Final Destination - items off

 

Smashville - items on

 

Battlefield - 2v2, items off

 

etc.

 

 

 

2) We use the tournament legal stages, and just use those.

 

 

 

3) We play on all legal stages, or just select a few stages, and even add some tournament-banned stages, like a tour.

 

 

 

Example:

 

(Start) Battlefield > Smashville > Delfino > Lylat Cruise > Halberd > Final Destination (End)

 

 

 

We can also add various conditions too.

 

 

 

Personally, I like the small teams of two and the tour style of stage selection.

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I like the 2v2 idea, and the tour through the stages. It seems like fun. :)

[RayOxide]

If there are teams you gotta put worst and best together.

 

 

 

Or something like that.

 

Mano + Kent?

 

 

 

NOPLZ.

[ThurinEthir]

Last time's teams were good. Of course, now with more people, we'd have to change it up...But whatever.

[Inuashakent]

If there are teams you gotta put worst and best together.

 

 

 

Or something like that.

 

Mano + Kent?

 

 

 

NOPLZ.

Mano will never allow that. :roll: I disagree on the teams being forced, that's no fun.

 

 

 

It'll probably be me and Crazy. I say NO. to the items, that's doing way too much... but I don't see why we can't use CP stages: Castle siege, Delfino, Halberd, and Pokemon Stadium 1. The tour sounds like a nice idea.

 

 

 

And why not make 2 ranks? 1 for teams, and 1 for singles. Matches that would be counted for ranks must be stated *Explicitly* before playing the game.

 

 

 

Various conditions? What kind? I hope you don't mean giant/slow/items/w/e because we can play fun games all the time, I don't see why would need a league for that.

[foolgool]

Personally, I liked the two big crews idea.

 

Each of the 8 or so active people on this thread would be split up, and could 2v2 or 1v1 players from the other team. It could work with the "tour" thing, especially if we legalize the CP stages.