Inuashakent Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 "Past MK level"? Are you talking about usage? A ratio. MK:the whole cast < Ike:just low tiers (Ike is a low tier and there are low tier only tournies.) [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Halo Chief Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Smashboards. Ike isn't going anywhere. He's good and I really like his as well, but fact is that he can't recover, is easily combo-able, and has a hard time dealing with almost every character in the game. I have no problem with any of those... Combo dodge=sidestep and roll, recover air dodge, and he owns all but the fastest of characters. Even then, I usually get a lucky Smash in there and own 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Smashboards. Ike isn't going anywhere. He's good and I really like his as well, but fact is that he can't recover, is easily combo-able, and has a hard time dealing with almost every character in the game. I have no problem with any of those... Combo dodge=sidestep and roll, recover air dodge, and he owns all but the fastest of characters. Even then, I usually get a lucky Smash in there and own 'em. This is why I said don't ask people if characters are good if you're not playing at high level play. Those techniques are useless/makes no sense. Dodges and rolls are actually a VERY bad move at almost any time. They are panic buttons, and they are punishable. Recover air dodge... not sure what that means, but if you mean air dodge when recovering what if he's recovering low? What if he knows you're going to airdodge and punish you even more harshly? What if he's MK and he just spams dair. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Smashboards. Ike isn't going anywhere. He's good and I really like his as well, but fact is that he can't recover, is easily combo-able, and has a hard time dealing with almost every character in the game. I have no problem with any of those... Combo dodge=sidestep and roll, recover air dodge, and he owns all but the fastest of characters. Even then, I usually get a lucky Smash in there and own 'em. Side stepping and rolling doesn't mean you aren't combo-able, it just means your opponents needs to add one extra step: punish. In reality, it would be much better if you could DI out of a combo, but Ike has no fast/short lasting aerials, so Ike can't really DI. Ike's smashes aren't reliable. A 4 year old can shield the Fsmash and the Usmash and Dsmash don't have enough power to compensate their slow speed. In most cases, Ike's Ftilt would be a better killer, or one of his 2 [bleep]es/fair if your opponent is off-stage. (That's another great thing, I'm pretty sure Ike's fair is the fair with the greatest range in the game, if not THE aerial with the greatest range. It hits almost everywhere above, below, and a long way in front of Ike and is pretty fast for its power, imo. I don't think even Meta Knight's aerials can reach as far as Ike's fair, but that doesn't mean Ike's aerials are better.) ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Smashboards. Ike isn't going anywhere. He's good and I really like his as well, but fact is that he can't recover, is easily combo-able, and has a hard time dealing with almost every character in the game. I have no problem with any of those... Combo dodge=sidestep and roll, recover air dodge, and he owns all but the fastest of characters. Even then, I usually get a lucky Smash in there and own 'em. Side stepping and rolling doesn't mean you aren't combo-able, it just means your opponents needs to add one extra step: punish. In reality, it would be much better if you could DI out of a com bo, but Ike has no fast/short lasting aerials, so Ike can't really DI. Thats not DI or even SDI, I'm pretty sure that's called momentum cancelling (i forget) but it doesn't matter for combo ability, it just matters for survivability. Ike's smashes aren't reliable. A 4 year old can shield the Fsmash and the Usmash and Dsmash don't have enough power to compensate their slow speed. In most cases, Ike's Ftilt would be a better killer, or one of his 2 [bleep]es/fair if your opponent is off-stage. (That's another great thing, I'm pretty sure Ike's fair is the fair with the greatest range in the game, if not THE aerial with the greatest range. It hits almost everywhere above, below, and a long way in front of Ike and is pretty fast for its power, imo. I don't think even Meta Knight's aerials can reach as far as Ike's fair, but that doesn't mean Ike's aerials are better.) Yeah, exactly. They really aren't reliable. His Usmash is GREAT though, you can punish most airbourne characters with it. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I prefer Nair to punish airborn/overshielding characters with Ike. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Now I have some other things that I have to finish in Brawl, in order to get the notices for: -Clear Classic mode on Intense, 1 stock (doesn't matter if you use continues or not) -Clear all Co-op Events (doesn't matter what difficulty) -Collect all trophies (542/544 trophies, both missing ones are random) -Collect all stickers (666-something?/700 stickers, all missing ones are random) -Complete the Chronicles -Play 1000/5000/10000/50000/100000/1000000 Brawl matches 1) In what order should I do these things? 2) What are the best strategies for these things? 3) Are there notices for clearing Classic/All-Star/SSE on Intense without continues, clearing 100-Man/15-Minute Brawl with everyone, clearing Classic/All-Star/Boss Battles on Intense with everyone, and clearing all Events and Co-op Events on Hard? 4) Do Special Brawls and Online Brawls count for Brawl matches? I just really want to beat the single-player aspect completely. This would give me the satisfaction. : BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 *puts on maid costume* Play nice children. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I prefer Nair to punish airborn/overshielding characters with Ike. It's all about mindgames. ;) *puts on maid costume* Play nice children. Was pretty unnecessary... but whatever. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toki_Hakurei Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 *puts on maid costume* Play nice children. Was pretty unnecessary... but whatever. Actually it was. I didn't want a lengthy 2-3 page argument about nothing to start... again. On Topic: Balanced Brawl. That is all. Click the "Signed in as..." go to Manage ignored users, copy paste Toki_Hakurei.I'm pretty sure having boobs is the most broken super power anyone can ever have. 0_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Did we just lose like 5 pages of text? Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toki_Hakurei Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) Well we did go through a forum change over. Also Mario's Stutter F Smash has broken range: Edited October 9, 2009 by Kcdragon8116 Don't double post. Use the edit button. Click the "Signed in as..." go to Manage ignored users, copy paste Toki_Hakurei.I'm pretty sure having boobs is the most broken super power anyone can ever have. 0_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Did we just lose like 5 pages of text? Thank bloody god we lost 5 pages of spammy crap. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Lol, I tried replacing Mario Circuit's song with "Tokyo Drift" from Fast and Furious. 1) I fail at Goldwave and 2) It doesn't fit the theme too well. No enough background, cars move too bloody slow and the sun doesn't help. Maybe New Pork... ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 People always say that their coin count is always 9999, and it is so slow to spend them all up. Yet I only have ~2000 coins, and I use them up too fast in the Coin Launcher. *sigh* more playing I guess. Since I got most of the notices (excluding get all trophies/stickers/chronicles, classic mode 1-stock intense and the matches ones), I don't play Brawl as often now. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 I'm almost always at 9999 lol. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Haha my coin count would probably be in millions if there wasn't a limit. :ohnoes: [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Man, you guys are BEAST at coin collecting. :ohnoes: What's your secret? BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Just keep playing games lol. You get coins just for playing. Or you can blitz classic mode or Subspace a few times. Or Spectate on Wi-Fi, but I always bet on the wrong team lol... ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Just keep playing games lol. You get coins just for playing. Or you can blitz classic mode or Subspace a few times. Or Spectate on Wi-Fi, but I always bet on the wrong team lol...I have tried the Duon-killing method on SSE Intense mode, but even then I average ~1500 coins per hour. It is also extremely repetitive as well. :wall: Oh well more playing I guess. By the way, my last two missing trophies still aren't showing up in Coin Launcher, which sucks because I just wasted more coins. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 If this were the next Smash Bros. roster, it would be EPIC. (Not made by me btw) BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine naked men Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Is that Beat in there? Oh hells yeah. sleep like dead men wake up like dead men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I never quite understood the idea of taking out Mewtwo... ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I never quite understood the idea of taking out Mewtwo...It's probably because of the addition of Lucario. Sakurai thought if Mewtwo was in, he would just be another clone of Lucario, so he scrapped the idea. Then again, I don't understand why Captain Falcon and Ganondorf are in this game if he really thought so... *hopes next smash bros is the image* :pray: BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Bored again. I found this picture that I found somewhere on the internet, and saved it on my comp. I forgot the exact location of the pic though. Anyways: Should be easy enough for you to figure out what is going on. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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