Breastfeeding

[nomadmike]

Why are boobs illegal to show in public anyway, I mean it's not a sexual organ or anything.

 

Imagine the guys on the street. Those who aren't holding a camera will be running for some privacy. Would be fun times.:lol:

[Kiriyama]

Why are boobs illegal to show in public anyway, I mean it's not a sexual organ or anything.

 

Imagine the guys on the street. Those who aren't holding a camera will be running for some privacy. Would be fun times.:lol:

 

 

 

What if all women were walking around topless?

 

 

 

Eventually, you'd get used to it.

[nomadmike]

Why are boobs illegal to show in public anyway, I mean it's not a sexual organ or anything.

 

Imagine the guys on the street. Those who aren't holding a camera will be running for some privacy. Would be fun times.:lol:

 

 

 

What if all women were walking around topless?

 

 

 

Eventually, you'd get used to it.

 

:lol: Would take a while for some of my friends. You should see them at beaches ;)

[IGoddessI]

Public nudity (which according to the public counts breasts) is generally frowned upon in public places, ESPECIALLY restaraunts.

 

 

 

Yes public nudity is illegal, however there is a complete exception for all breastfeeding mothers.

 

 

 

Breastfeeding is encouraged everywhere in Australia, including restaurants. Comments like yours are generally frowned upon, not only by Australian women but especially medical staff.

 

 

 

If you're from a culture that is against women exposing parts of their body even if in a completely natural state, that's okay they exist. However, bringing your beliefs upon more liberal countries doesn't quite cut the cheese.

 

 

 

Just as I wouldn't breast feed or expose large amounts of my flesh in other countries, others shouldn't be coming to such liberal countries and expressing their anger at our norms.

 

 

 

Go to the bathroom to breastfeed

 

 

 

I'd have you up for discrimination, want to write that down, date it and sign it? ;) No? How about you go ask that nice restaurant manager over there to do the same, here's a pen.

 

 

1. Can't the kid wait 30 minutes?

 

 

 

That's like me asking you to wait 30 minutes when you're incapable of feeding yourself and are already starving. If it worried you that much and approached me, I'd be more than happy to wait until after you finished eating. I can't however, guarantee that you'll enjoy a screaming kid while trying to enjoy every bite of your steak though. This is my kid we're talking about, he's going to take after his mummy and have serious lung power. He's going to be heard!

[1_man_army]

Just to add to that point, breastfeeding is a legally protected right here (Scotland).

[Zierro]

By saying it's a natural human thing, you're all forgetting that using the bathroom is also a natural thing. Should we just allow you to plop down and do your business wherever you want?

 

 

 

Some people just feel uncomfortable about it, and I think others should respect that. I don't care if I see a lady breastfeeding, but I'm sure some people do and we all have to respect that.

[ember3579]

Alright, first off, there are MANY truly Epic lulz to be had in this thread. :lol: =D> \ :thumbsup: Second, yeah, it might be a decent idea for you to relocate to give the baby some food, but if you wish to demean someone for all the world to see for your precious comfort, then you can go eat lava. -.- TRUST me, it's not that bad. Oh, and to the people saying that they should relocate to the bathroom, 1) it's especially demeaning to the person to ask them to do that while people are taking a dump nearby. 2) It's highly unsanitary, and considering the especially vulnerable situation that breastfeeding puts people in, that's NOT a good idea. 3) It's not like it's gonna smell nasty in the surrounding area if you do it in public, and nobody has to clean up afterward (the kid already does that, unless if he's a sloppy eater :anxious: ), so don't compare that to taking a dump. Thank you.

[Abyssalwhip]

Public nudity (which according to the public counts breasts) is generally frowned upon in public places, ESPECIALLY restaraunts.

 

 

 

Yes public nudity is illegal, however there is a complete exception for all breastfeeding mothers.

 

 

 

Breastfeeding is encouraged everywhere in Australia, including restaurants. Comments like yours are generally frowned upon, not only by Australian women but especially medical staff.

 

 

 

If you're from a culture that is against women exposing parts of their body even if in a completely natural state, that's okay they exist. However, bringing your beliefs upon more liberal countries doesn't quite cut the cheese.

 

 

 

Just as I wouldn't breast feed or expose large amounts of my flesh in other countries, others shouldn't be coming to such liberal countries and expressing their anger at our norms.

 

 

 

Go to the bathroom to breastfeed

 

 

 

I'd have you up for discrimination, want to write that down, date it and sign it? ;) No? How about you go ask that nice restaurant manager over there to do the same, here's a pen.

 

 

1. Can't the kid wait 30 minutes?

 

 

 

That's like me asking you to wait 30 minutes when you're incapable of feeding yourself and are already starving. If it worried you that much and approached me, I'd be more than happy to wait until after you finished eating. I can't however, guarantee that you'll enjoy a screaming kid while trying to enjoy every bite of your steak though. This is my kid we're talking about, he's going to take after his mummy and have serious lung power. He's going to be heard!

 

1. If your kid is starving someone needs to be arrested for child abuse so I would hope that isn't the case to begin with.

 

2. How is that discrimination exactly?

 

3. Why am I still in this thread anyway

[Lenin64]

I don't think doing it in a bathroom would be unsanitary unless you're rubbing your baby all over the floor or something.

 

 

 

That said, I don't think it matters. Just boobs after all. You're born naked, you die naked, seeing semi-naked won't kill ya.

[Varda]

I don't think doing it in a bathroom would be unsanitary unless you're rubbing your baby all over the floor or something.

 

 

 

That said, I don't think it matters. Just boobs after all. You're born naked, you die naked, seeing semi-naked won't kill ya.

 

 

 

So you too like your dinner on the bathroom?

 

 

 

Really.. What's up with people now a days.. No one wants to eat in the bathroom. :I

[Lenin64]

Actually, I have been known to eat in the bathroom. Sometimes it's the only privacy you can get with your food. Away from people asking for a piece, a bite, etc.

[Abyssalwhip]

I don't think doing it in a bathroom would be unsanitary unless you're rubbing your baby all over the floor or something.

 

 

 

That said, I don't think it matters. Just boobs after all. You're born naked, you die naked, seeing semi-naked won't kill ya.

 

That I agree with, in restaurants the thing is it gets VERY awkward.

[IGoddessI]

Some people just feel uncomfortable about it, and I think others should respect that. I don't care if I see a lady breastfeeding, but I'm sure some people do and we all have to respect that.

 

 

 

While it's completely lawful honey, I don't have to ask how you feel about diddley squat :

 

 

 

1. If your kid is starving someone needs to be arrested for child abuse so I would hope that isn't the case to begin with.

 

 

 

I'm not sure what country you live in but when I say "starving", I'm not using the term literally :roll: It's slang in my country for "fairly hungry". Sometimes when your baby cries to be fed, it's going to be fairly hungry. That is in no form child abuse, I'm the last person you should be preaching this to.

 

 

 

2. How is that discrimination exactly?

I have every legal right to feed my child where ever. Asking me not to feed my child or go somewhere else is discrimination against a mother and her new born.

[Zierro]

While it's completely lawful honey, I don't have to ask how you feel about diddley squat :

 

 

 

No, I really don't mind at all. I like watching MA-rated cartoons, but if I had kids or elders in the room, I'd turn it off for their sake.

 

 

 

(To be honest, I'd probably even give a second look. :oops: )

[IGoddessI]

Then why wouldn't you teach your child that's how babies get fed? If it's so offensive, come up and ask me nicely that you're not ready to teach your children about the facts of life. I'll see what I can do for you but no promises.

[Zierro]

I'm just saying that I can see how it is perceived as unpleasant to others.

 

 

 

If it's so offensive, come up and ask me nicely that you're not ready to teach your children about the facts of life. I'll see what I can do for you but no promises.

 

 

 

Is the best way to teach your kids about the birds and the bees, to have sex in front of your children? :shame:

 

 

 

Edit: Looks like someone beat me to it.

[IGoddessI]

No because that would be illegal. Breast feeding your child in public is perfectly legal. I've already stated this lol

[Zierro]

I don't think legality should be brought up here, because it's not relevant. We're talking about common social etiquette, not the law (which is close but not always completely accurate). We've discussed drugs before - which are in fact illegal.

 

 

 

Just because the law allows you to do so doesn't mean it is morally right.

 

 

 

Anyways, hypothetically, say that it was legal to show porn to children. Is that really the best way to teach them about it?

[Agunimon979]

Public nudity (which according to the public counts breasts) is generally frowned upon in public places, ESPECIALLY restaraunts.

 

 

 

Yes public nudity is illegal,

 

 

 

I stopped there.

 

 

 

Misreading = ftl

[IGoddessI]

I don't think legality should be brought up here, because it's not relevant. We're talking about common social etiquette, not the law (which is close but not always completely accurate). We've discussed drugs before - which are in fact illegal.

 

 

 

Just because the law allows you to do so doesn't mean it is morally right.

 

 

 

Anyways, hypothetically, say that it was legal to show porn to children. Is that really the best way?

 

 

 

Legality is completely relevant. Whether it's morally right to you or whether it's morally right to I, it's acceptable and will be done. I'm not here to take things out of context we've already agreed previously in another thread that morally, anything can be compared to anything (so why you're trying to argue this is beyond me) What we're talking about is breastfeeding not porn. And obviously showing porn to children is illegal because it's morally wrong in the face of law. Breast feeding is perfectly legal because it is morally right in the face of law. So instead of comparing apples to oranges, (which we both know goes around in circles) let's stay focussed and concentrate on breast feeding.

 

 

 

I stopped there.

 

 

 

Misreading = ftl

 

 

 

I never mis read anything thanks. You assumed I was agreeing with you, when in fact I was starting a completely new reply.

 

 

 

Misreading = ftl indeed.

 

 

 

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Women are regularly asked to leave public premises - restaurants, for example - if they are breastfeeding, women's organisations say.

 

 

 

"Breastfeeding in public is already covered under sex discrimination legislation, but the new legislation will make it more explicit," says Dr Karleen Gribble, of the University of Western Sydney's school of nursing.

 

 

 

"People should know that when they discriminate in this way, they may face legal action. Half of all babies in Australia are weaned by six months: that is too early."

 

 

 

Australia: Bans on public breastfeeding to be illegal

 

Written by Garry

 

Tuesday, 29 April 2008 18:29

[Zierro]

Legality is completely relevant. Whether it's morally right to you or whether it's morally right to I, it's acceptable and will be done.

 

 

 

But we're on the forums here which are used to discuss philosophy. I know that breastfeeding will remain legal, but I just want to state my opinion on the matter. :P

 

 

 

What we're talking about is breastfeeding not porn. And obviously showing porn to children is illegal because it's morally wrong in the face of law. Breast feeding is perfectly legal because it is morally right in the face of law.

 

 

 

We're talking about things that make others uncomfortable. Anyways, it might be "right" in the face of the law, just like a burglar suing the family of the house that he broke into is "right".

 

 

 

Let's take cigarettes into account. They are legal, but is it morally polite to smoke by others who just don't like it? What about picking your nose? Farting? Some things just bother people. When it becomes a large issue (meaning many are bothered by it), I think it should be taken into consideration.

 

 

 

PS: I never realized I said using analogies were bad. :-s They exist for a reason.

[warri0r45]

I can't believe how PC society is getting these days. You guys should expect to be offended every now and then. If it comes to the point where we legislate or act to minimise anyone getting offended for every little thing, then stop the planet. I want to get off.

[Agunimon979]

 

I stopped there.

 

 

 

Misreading = ftl

 

 

 

I never mis read anything thanks. You assumed I was agreeing with you, when in fact I was starting a completely new reply.

 

 

 

Misreading = ftl indeed.

 

 

 

Show me where I said breastfeeding was illegal.

[IGoddessI]

But we're on the forums here which are used to discuss philosophy. I know that breastfeeding will remain legal, but I just want to state my opinion on the matter. :P

 

 

 

This isn't about what we're on the forums for. This is about discussing a specific topic which happens to be breast feeding.

 

 

 

We're talking about things that make others uncomfortable. Anyways, it might be "right" in the face of the law, just like a burglar suing the family of the house that he broke into is "right".

 

 

 

I've already acknowledged the fact that I would try my best to accommodate those who approach me for feeling uncomfortable. Your opinion has been heard and accepted Zierro.

 

 

 

Let's take cigarettes into account. They are legal, but is it morally polite to smoke by others who just don't like it? What about picking your nose? Farting? Some things just bother people. When it becomes a large issue (meaning many are bothered by it), I think it should be taken into consideration.

 

 

 

PS: I never realized I said using analogies were bad. :-s They exist for a reason.

 

 

 

I'm not disagreeing on what is or what isn't morally right, we've already spoken about this. It will still be done :D When you decide to bring the topic back to it's original purpose - to discuss breast feeding we'll talk more.

[IGoddessI]

Abyssalwhip - Yes there is the option of bottles. There is also the option of buying a breast pump to fill the bottles. While it's perfectly legal, I shouldn't be obliged to buy bottles nor a breast pump. I will breast feed my child where ever I like and if you have a problem with that I certainly don't have a problem seeing you in court for discrimination :D

 

 

 

P.S If you can't talk like a civilized person, don't bother coming back - I will be reporting your post :