Breastfeeding

[Abyssalwhip]

Abyssalwhip - Yes there is the option of bottles. There is also the option of buying a breast pump to fill the bottles. While it's perfectly legal, I shouldn't be obliged to buy bottles nor a breast pump. I will breast feed my child where ever I like and if you have a problem with that I certainly don't have a problem seeing you in court for discrimination :D

 

 

 

P.S If you can't talk like a civilized person, don't bother coming back - I will be reporting your post :

 

How many times do I need to ask you how it's discrimination?

[IGoddessI]

I've already posted a reply to your question and I've also quoted a newspaper as an example of how it is discrimination.

 

 

 

Please watch how you speak to people because I really wouldn't like to be responsible for your long holiday off the forums.

[pryomancer]

Abyssalwhip please watch your attitude.

 

If you can't add anything decent and contribute, then stop posting.

[Abyssalwhip]

I've already posted a reply to your question and I've also quoted a newspaper as an example of how it is discrimination.

 

 

 

Please watch how you speak to people because I really wouldn't like to be responsible for your long holiday off the forums.

 

Look how should I know you edited a post on another page, look I don't reread posts checking for edits. Also throwing someone out of a restaurant doesn't have to be the solution.

[IGoddessI]

If you had asked me nicely I would have no problem letting you know this. Please don't resort to swearing at me to get your post heard. The more civil you are, the more inclined I will be to answer your question in the best possible way. I agree with you, throwing someone out of a restaurant doesn't have to be a solution, that isn't what I was trying to say. Asking somebody to bring a bottle next time or even asking them to go to the bathroom is also discrimination. While it is lawfully protected, it will be done and there is no stopping it from happening. I think a lot of this could be solved with offended people, being civil and just asking. I would respect somebody with a positive manner and accept our moral differences. I do believe that because a mother and her new born hold these rights, it is not going to work majority in favour the other way around, asking people if they are offended by breast feeding.

[Lionheart_0]

*whistles* this might become a hot topic if you guys keep this up.

 

 

 

anyways get a [cabbage] bottle you [wagons].milk those boobs before hand into a bottle.will it kill you?.thought so.if all moms did that the whole issue could be avoided -.- kthxbai

 

 

 

K, this is how it's gonna work.

 

 

 

We are gonna put you, and everyone else who wants to go along too, on a boat to an island. It is here where you will create your own society, with your own views, since it seems that you can't accept something that is clearly natural.

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm sure there will be no sex or reproduction on that island because most females probably share the same viewpoint as Goddess.

 

 

 

kthxbai.

 

 

 

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Because babies need the finest atmosphere to suck on nipples?

 

 

 

Because older people need the finest atmosphere to eat?

 

(See what I did there?)

[Riku3220]

isn't there a shawl type thing that protects your breast from view while breastfeeding your child?

 

 

 

i remember seeing one before

[Abyssalwhip]

*whistles* this might become a hot topic if you guys keep this up.

 

 

 

anyways get a [cabbage] bottle you [wagons].milk those boobs before hand into a bottle.will it kill you?.thought so.if all moms did that the whole issue could be avoided -.- kthxbai

 

 

 

K, this is how it's gonna work.

 

 

 

We are gonna put you, and everyone else who wants to go along too, on a boat to an island. It is here where you will create your own society, with your own views, since it seems that you can't accept something that is clearly natural.

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm sure there will be no sex or reproduction on that island because most females probably share the same viewpoint as Goddess.

 

 

 

kthxbai.

 

 

 

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Because babies need the finest atmosphere to suck on nipples?

 

 

 

Because older people need the finest atmosphere to eat?

 

(See what I did there?)

 

That doesn't exactly make sense, a baby is going to give a crap about where it gets fed.

[limpbizkit]

^Miss my point again.

 

Would YOU like eating in a bathroom or not?

[Range_This11]

^Miss my point again.

 

Would YOU like eating in a bathroom or not?

 

Comparing a baby nursing and a grown person eating a meal are two completely different things. That's a horrible comparison if you ask me...

[Zierro]

^Miss my point again.

 

Would YOU like eating in a bathroom or not?

 

Comparing a baby nursing and a grown person eating a meal are two completely different things. That's a horrible comparison if you ask me...

 

 

 

I agree. The baby's not old enough to know what's going on. That's why it feeds in front of everybody. It simply just doesn't know. The reason they feed in front of everyone is because it's the rooting reflex - something we're all born with. However, we're not all born with a sense of social etiquette. I guess one could argue that the mother counts too though when it comes to the location of the feeding. It's really just mother VS uncomfortable people.

[limpbizkit]

^Miss my point again.

 

Would YOU like eating in a bathroom or not?

 

Comparing a baby nursing and a grown person eating a meal are two completely different things. That's a horrible comparison if you ask me...

 

My point is its the babys meal just like yours.

[Abyssalwhip]

^Miss my point again.

 

Would YOU like eating in a bathroom or not?

 

Comparing a baby nursing and a grown person eating a meal are two completely different things. That's a horrible comparison if you ask me...

 

My point is its the babys meal just like yours.

 

Do you even read any replies to your posts?

[Zierro]

My point is its the babys meal just like yours.

 

 

 

Yeah, even though the baby isn't aware of anything outside of it's rooting reflex, unlike grown people. Eating in a car or another private area isn't going to gross a baby out. Eating next to a woman breastfeeding might gross people out. This is one of those situations where ignorance is bliss (the baby has no sense of what is "gross"). The only one truly being effected would be the mother - not the baby.

[Carl]

Hmm, breastfeeding in public...

 

 

 

Well, if I was in a high class place, as you were, I think it would be a little disturbing.

 

 

 

Some low class place, well it wouldn't bother me as much. Or even in hospitals or such.

 

 

 

Really, it would depend on where I am. If I'm in some high class, fancy place, I don't want to see this, though if its a fast food place oor such, then at least the baby is getting better nutrition(sp?) than me...

 

 

 

 

 

Hold on a second, why do you think people shoud=d be treated differently and act in different ways depending on where they're from? Higher class people and your ordinary Joe Soap. We're all human beings all the same. Mothers can breastfeed wherever they like it's completely natural. Only the odd few *peopl* actually have problems with this.

 

 

 

Think you need to get out more and see the real world. Everybody is the same, equal. No one class of people should be expected to act different than anyonre else :| :shame:

[IGoddessI]

Range_This11 - Gday :D Your post was a relief to read. Now if only people who were uncomfortable with it all spoke the same way you did. Some people make way too much of a big deal. I've already pointed this out but I'll say it again anyway.. Because breastfeeding is protected by some serious laws, mothers are more likely to do it without asking others how they feel, purely because it is absolutely acceptable. Therefore, it is only fair to say if you're very uncomfortable about it, to speak to the mother not the other way around. Just as if someone was to have a cigarette in front of you, if they can smoke there, it's your responsibility to ask if you don't like it. If someone is drinking in front of you, they can legally drink there, it's your responsibility to ask or move and so forth.

 

 

 

Some people are courteous but to believe all people should take special precaution around you or others who are completely offended, is ridiculous. That is not the best way to go about this at all. The expectations you're asking for is not a reasonable goal. All mothers are not going to tread on egg shells around people when it's lawfully protected everywhere in the country. What is a better way to go about it, because the expectations you're after are too high is to believe that "some" women will tread egg shells around you, other women you will have to tread egg shells around them. That way, when you go out in the big wide world, things aren't going to upset you with reasonable expectations.

 

 

 

To say that all people should deal with one side and all people should deal with the other, is a goal people often mistakenly do. It is not possible, it will not happen and it will only upset you even more next time it happens. Make a reasonable expectation and such things don't affect you psychologically as much as it would when you made things appear as absolutes.

 

 

 

"ALL people should do this"

 

"it MUST happen this way"

 

"things SHOULD be this way"

 

 

 

very upsetting words when you tell yourself too often. As a breastfeeding mother I'm going to have to go out in to the public, accepting that I may be approached by people who are offended and sometimes not in very polite ways either.

 

 

 

Now if I went out in to the public with my new born with the attitude that "everybody can get bent, this is the way I'm doing things whether you're upset or not and I'll tell you to go jump if you approach me" I'm only going to be upset when my expectations aren't met. I'm not going to deal with people who approach me very well. In the end, it will only be upsetting.

 

 

 

This applies to people who are offended by it as well. You would be going out in public, accepting that you may be confronted with a breastfeeding mother. You may approach them and sometimes the reply you get is not going to be very polite.

 

 

 

If you went out in to public with the attitude of "well I don't care if its protected by the law, you should respect how everybody feels and you should go do it at home" You're only going to be upsetting yourself every time it happens.

 

 

 

You'll be taught this in psychology if you're studying it at university range. At 14 years of age I'm believing it's just a high school class but I could be wrong. (I noticed you said you have a "psych class" and just for the record, your wording is getting clever so it must be a pretty decent class.)

 

 

 

That's pretty reasonable. I do notice however, it's males who mainly have this opinion and not females. I wonder why ;)

 

 

 

Could it be the case of unless you're a mother, you'll never know?

 

 

 

Here's a good one for you guys - Approach your mother, give her your opinion and see what the two of you can discuss :D

[fgfuyfyuiuy0]

Breastfeeding is perfectly normal and actually has more vitamins than formula has. If and when I have children, I will hope for my wife to feed my child via breastfeeding. I think that most people are to immature or not well informed of the pros to breastfeeding and that it should be natural for a mother to feed her child if the child needs to be fed. Now, most people aren't used to breastfeeding, so in some cases the mother could have gone to the bathroom to do it, but I honestly don't care.

 

 

 

The child is hungry and the mother needs to feed her. Formula has some vitamins, but none naturally made. Breast milk is supplied, cost free, and healthy for the child, so the mother had every right to feed the child in the restaurant. I find it odd that you'd lose your appetite over that. It's not disgusting. I venture to bet you were most likely breastfed and if you were, I'd ask your mother about how hard it is to stop a hungry baby from crying when your only option is to feed it in public.

 

 

 

I see no harm in it and I don't really see the point of a discussion.

 

 

 

I took 3 classes on child development (3 Semester long classes), so I am well informed on the matter. If anyone would like to discuss this further, PM me.

[Range_This11]

[hide=IGoddessI quote]

Range_This11 - Gday :D Your post was a relief to read. Now if only people who were uncomfortable with it all spoke the same way you did. Some people make way too much of a big deal. I've already pointed this out but I'll say it again anyway.. Because breastfeeding is protected by some serious laws, mothers are more likely to do it without asking others how they feel, purely because it is absolutely acceptable. Therefore, it is only fair to say if you're very uncomfortable about it, to speak to the mother not the other way around. Just as if someone was to have a cigarette in front of you, if they can smoke there, it's your responsibility to ask if you don't like it. If someone is drinking in front of you, they can legally drink there, it's your responsibility to ask or move and so forth.

 

 

 

Some people are courteous but to believe all people should take special precaution around you or others who are completely offended, is ridiculous. That is not the best way to go about this at all. The expectations you're asking for is not a reasonable goal. All mothers are not going to tread on egg shells around people when it's lawfully protected everywhere in the country. What is a better way to go about it, because the expectations you're after are too high is to believe that "some" women will tread egg shells around you, other women you will have to tread egg shells around them. That way, when you go out in the big wide world, things aren't going to upset you with reasonable expectations.

 

 

 

To say that all people should deal with one side and all people should deal with the other, is a goal people often mistakenly do. It is not possible, it will not happen and it will only upset you even more next time it happens. Make a reasonable expectation and such things don't affect you psychologically as much as it would when you made things appear as absolutes.

 

 

 

"ALL people should do this"

 

"it MUST happen this way"

 

"things SHOULD be this way"

 

 

 

very upsetting words when you tell yourself too often. As a breastfeeding mother I'm going to have to go out in to the public, accepting that I may be approached by people who are offended and sometimes not in very polite ways either.

 

 

 

Now if I went out in to the public with my new born with the attitude that "everybody can get bent, this is the way I'm doing things whether you're upset or not and I'll tell you to go jump if you approach me" I'm only going to be upset when my expectations aren't met. I'm not going to deal with people who approach me very well. In the end, it will only be upsetting.

 

 

 

This applies to people who are offended by it as well. You would be going out in public, accepting that you may be confronted with a breastfeeding mother. You may approach them and sometimes the reply you get is not going to be very polite.

 

 

 

If you went out in to public with the attitude of "well I don't care if its protected by the law, you should respect how everybody feels and you should go do it at home" You're only going to be upsetting yourself every time it happens.

 

 

 

You'll be taught this in psychology if you're studying it at university range. At 14 years of age I'm believing it's just a high school class but I could be wrong. (I noticed you said you have a "psych class" and just for the record, your wording is getting clever so it must be a pretty decent class.)

 

 

 

That's pretty reasonable. I do notice however, it's males who mainly have this opinion and not females. I wonder why ;)

 

 

 

Could it be the case of unless you're a mother, you'll never know?

 

 

 

Here's a good one for you guys - Approach your mother, give her your opinion and see what the two of you can discuss :D

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That must have taken you quite a time to type out ;)

 

 

 

For the record I am going to a University next year to study History and Sociology, and I'm a little confused as to if you think I'm 14? Haha gotta love the internet and mixed messages.

 

 

 

I guess I still think it's better to do it in a non-eating environment since that's where this whole topic really stemmed from. Anywhere else, have at 'er.

[IGoddessI]

You hoped you weren't sounding like an immature 14 year old so I made the assumption that you were 14.

 

 

 

And no it didn't take very long at all. Thanks for the opinion but it's not a reasonable expectation and quite often you're going to be disappointed.

 

 

 

This being said, let's hope you and I don't cross the same restaurant ;)

 

 

 

I notice nobody is posting what their mothers think? I'm also wondering the correlation between mothers who actually breast fed and mothers who put their child straight on to a bottle opposed to their opinions. And if they did put their newborn straight on to a bottle, did they educate themselves or were they purely lazy?

 

 

 

Personally, I don't know one female who would agree with you. The females I know are educated of the benefits too.

 

 

 

I really am interested in what your mothers have to say so please, if you're up to the challenge, I'm looking forward to reading the responses you get compared to your own attitude.

 

 

 

I'm also interested to see average age of person who is offended compared to average age who thinks it is perfectly natural.

[fgfuyfyuiuy0]

@ IGoddessI:

 

 

 

As you can see from my previous post, I am all for breastfeeding. I was the only child of 3 that was breastfed. I want my children breastfed.

 

 

 

I turned 17 a week ago.

[dsavi]

There is nothing wrong with it. At all. It is natural. You tell it to 'em, Goddess! :XD:

 

I was at someone's house for supper the other day, and when we came in the mother was breastfeeding. I admit it made me slightly uncomfortable, as I'm sure any 14 year old would be. Then we had this great dinner with these huge steaks, corn on the cob, and all this good food- I hadn't eaten for a few hours and I went right through it, although the mother continued through the whole meal. No appetite spoiled. Get a grip.

 

 

 

I'm hungry... :(

[monkeyboo2]

Hmmm...

 

Well...Breastfeeding, eh?

 

 

 

Yeah do it where you like. Its fine etc.

 

 

 

But what i really wanted to post is that i find it so funy when mothers try to hide it.

 

They start sliding their baby under the table, and then about 10 seconds later you see a baby size bump in her T-shirt appear- and she's looking round with shifty eyes thinking that nobodies noticed. And then you here the slurping noise and she's still trying to pretend that she's not doing it.

 

ITs hilarious. \

[dsavi]

There is nothing wrong with it. At all. It is natural. You tell it to 'em, Goddess! :XD:

 

I was at someone's house for supper the other day, and when we came in the mother was breastfeeding. I admit it made me slightly uncomfortable, as I'm sure any 14 year old would be. Then we had this great dinner with these huge steaks, corn on the cob, and all this good food- I hadn't eaten for a few hours and I went right through it, although the mother continued through the whole meal. No appetite spoiled. Get a grip.

 

 

 

I'm hungry... :(

 

lol,why complain if you were breastfeeded as a baby too? ;)

 

Did I ever complain? People who have just finished puberty tend to be uncomfortable with such situations. It goes away in time, I'm sure. As for your other, completely immature response, whether you know this or not, it isn't helping you at all.

[IGoddessI]

Hey monkey you're invited to dinner after the baby is born, there's no hiding these puppies no matter how big the table is. Let's see who's uncomfortable then ;)

[Flodder450]

There is nothing wrong with it. At all. It is natural. You tell it to 'em, Goddess! :XD:

 

I was at someone's house for supper the other day, and when we came in the mother was breastfeeding. I admit it made me slightly uncomfortable, as I'm sure any 14 year old would be. Then we had this great dinner with these huge steaks, corn on the cob, and all this good food- I hadn't eaten for a few hours and I went right through it, although the mother continued through the whole meal. No appetite spoiled. Get a grip.

 

 

 

I'm hungry... :(

 

lol,why complain if you were breastfeeded as a baby too? ;)

 

Did I ever complain? People who have just finished puberty tend to be uncomfortable with such situations. It goes away in time, I'm sure. As for your other, completely immature response, whether you know this or not, it isn't helping you at all.

I didnt mean that to you : That was for the topic starter ;)