Dire_Wolf Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 I understand the parent part. I had to convincemy parents as well. But i was talking about getting the money in my post. The money is why we members compare membership to a big mac and such. and remember that the option to test for full screen doesn't mean you'll get it. As explained in the first two posts on this page. To be honest i understand very well why Pat used scum remark. You were talking like if you didn't want F2Ps to get Fullscreen at all. You could put it a other way... On topic, ill see what happens. But im afraid you might be right Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Yes, but that is as rude as my *scum* remark. It was a simple comparison as i meant it. Sorry if you took it that way, but nevertheless i think we're getting off topic here. Think we should stop. :oops: Sir Hemen, i do not want f2p to get it honestly. I won't hide that. But i won't riot or rant about it if they do. It's just that 51% of me doesn't want f2p to get it and 49% doesn't care. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat_61 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 ok : I think they will get FS for maybe a certain amount of time a day? Maybe? I Support TET!| If you want bunny PM Me.|Click For My DevArt^ Cowboy is the Best ^IT'S A TRAP SHINY JUST WANTS TO STALK YOU.Hell yeah I do. Whats your msn?That's how it all starts. Next he's going to ask you what flavor of candy you enjoy and whats your favorite color van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Yes, but that is as rude as my *scum* remark. It was a simple comparison as i meant it. Sorry if you took it that way, but nevertheless i think we're getting off topic here. Think we should stop. :oops: Sir Hemen, i do not want f2p to get it honestly. I won't hide that. But i won't riot or rant about it if they do. It's just that 51% of me doesn't want f2p to get it and 49% doesn't care. I can understand how that feels, to pay for P2P and F2P getting fullscreen. But try to understand, that F2P ain't getting any updates that affect their gaming. It's just graphically update. In most games, graphical updates and sounds are privileges to everyone. P.S As for not caring, as human being you should work on your emphancing others, that would make you a better person if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Yes, but that is as rude as my *scum* remark. It was a simple comparison as i meant it. Sorry if you took it that way, but nevertheless i think we're getting off topic here. Think we should stop. :oops: Sir Hemen, i do not want f2p to get it honestly. I won't hide that. But i won't riot or rant about it if they do. It's just that 51% of me doesn't want f2p to get it and 49% doesn't care. I can understand how that feels, to pay for P2P and F2P getting fullscreen. But try to understand, that F2P ain't getting any updates that affect their gaming. It's just graphically update. In most games, graphical updates and sounds are privileges to everyone. Actually in most games free playing is either very limited or has some sort of catch. Take the popular game Adventurequest for example. If you're a free player, then you get a certain number of free logins and then you have to wait for the server to not be full. Which is almost never. It's either pay or get out.Gaurdians, the equivalent of members in this game, can log in whenever they please. F2p people in runescape get to log in whenever they please and have no trial. They can not pay for 7 years if they want to. F2p get too much as is. P.S As for not caring, as human being you should work on your emphancing others, that would make you a better person if you ask me. Don't start with real life things like this. I don't want this thread to be a flame fest. And i fear i probably will flame you if you persist. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 I was talking about Grapichal and Sound updates, not Game features. As AQ ,i have played it. And you could easy get into the game in the morning, and once your in you won't get kicked out. But that's precaution for those who weren't members, also called "Guardians". But i can tell you this, and read this cleary: F2P and P2P had same graphichs and sounds Also i have been F2P, and became P2P on there. Don't start with real life things like this. I don't want this thread to be a flame fest. And i fear i probably will flame you if you persist. That was just a advice, but never mind it then :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 No pay = no updates Atleast that's what I think anyway. But as more updates have become F2P they've now come to EXPECT them, so I think jagex should tone it down a bit, like my parents have noticed with their business, they give lollies/chocolates to customers in their envelopes with their bills so they can have a treat while paying us, but as soon as summer came and chocolates started melting and lollies were getting sticky, we stopped, and we got angry customers, some even QUITTING because of it. Now that is just rediculous, you see, customers QUITTING because they don't get their lolly? How SAD is that. The same applies to the staff too, now bosses don't HAVE to give their staff presents for their birthday, or a jet-ski ride with fish and chips as a treat every Friday, but my mum and dad do those things - and now they've come to EXPECT it, not taking into account the money for petrol, fish and chips and birthday presents (usually cologne which costs my mum about $120 per staff member) I think you get my point. You give them an update, they complain and ask for more. NO PAY = NO UPDATES. It's only fair. If I were to ever become F2P again, and we got an update, I wouldn't complain for more, in fact i'd be glad to even get ONE because I wouldn't be paying for anything! Well, atleast you'd think people would think that way, but most don't :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I was talking about Grapichal and Sound updates, not Game features. As AQ ,i have played it. And you could easy get into the game in the morning, and once your in you won't get kicked out. But that's precaution for those who weren't members, also called "Guardians". But i can tell you this, and read this cleary: F2P and P2P had same graphichs and sounds Also i have been F2P, and became P2P on there. Okay i understand what you're saying. But i don't consider full screen as a graphical update. I agree that F2p will probabaly get the HD graphics but not the full screen. Full screen is not a graphical update, it's an addition. Therefore that argument doesn't make much sense. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 No pay = no updates Atleast that's what I think anyway. But as more updates have become F2P they've now come to EXPECT them, so I think jagex should tone it down a bit, like my parents have noticed with their business, they give lollies/chocolates to customers in their envelopes with their bills so they can have a treat while paying us, but as soon as summer came and chocolates started melting and lollies were getting sticky, we stopped, and we got angry customers, some even QUITTING because of it. Now that is just rediculous, you see, customers QUITTING because they don't get their lolly? How SAD is that. The same applies to the staff too, now bosses don't HAVE to give their staff presents for their birthday, or a jet-ski ride with fish and chips as a treat every Friday, but my mum and dad do those things - and now they've come to EXPECT it, not taking into account the money for petrol, fish and chips and birthday presents (usually cologne which costs my mum about $120 per staff member) I think you get my point. You give them an update, they complain and ask for more. NO PAY = NO UPDATES. It's only fair. If I were to ever become F2P again, and we got an update, I wouldn't complain for more, in fact i'd be glad to even get ONE because I wouldn't be paying for anything! Well, atleast you'd think people would think that way, but most don't :roll: You can give updates to F2P, but not giving "The" update is kinda disappointing. But to be honest if F2P don't get full screen and so on, i won't get angry. But more disappointed, it's a update that makes the game more enjoyable and i can safely say that everyone agrees. Some people don't like this and that update, but "The" update is liked by a big number. I was talking about Grapichal and Sound updates, not Game features. As AQ ,i have played it. And you could easy get into the game in the morning, and once your in you won't get kicked out. But that's precaution for those who weren't members, also called "Guardians". But i can tell you this, and read this cleary: F2P and P2P had same graphichs and sounds Also i have been F2P, and became P2P on there. Okay i understand what you're saying. But i don't consider full screen as a graphical update. I agree that F2p will probabaly get the HD graphics but not the full screen. Full screen is not a graphical update, it's an addition. Therefore that argument doesn't make much sense. I really am doubting if F2P will get full screen, and as you said that it may be it. But i don't recall from any game, that there was restrictions to full screen or any graphical additions. So your argument woulden't make much sense to other games, but unfortunately i am pretty sure Jagex will go for your favour. But ill wait for offical statement from jagex, until then ill wait for better arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Disregarding other games, but making an even better point here. Funorb is owned by Jagex. For you to play full screen on Funorb you need to pay 3 dollars a month. This supports the assumption that it will be the same here. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Disregarding other games, but making an even better point here. Funorb is owned by Jagex. For you to play full screen on Funorb you need to pay 3 dollars a month. This supports the assumption that it will be the same here. That's a good argument why F2P won't get it. Unfortunately i haven't played Funorb, won't either \ But i am not really totally conviced. Not that it's bad argument, just not totally convinced. A bit out of topic, regarding other games. If Jagex has quite a bit restrictions on graphic, it's just bad way of acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Ryan20 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 f2p might get hd, but they definately wont get fs because this would prevent them from seeing adds, which is the only reason they can have a f2p. Sorry if u want fs just mow a lawn once a month, trust me fs is worth it : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 I am convinced, F2P won't get FS. But if Jagex advertised other than using their own site, and letting F2P player on Fullscreen would defintly make the game bigger. Such a shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Freeplay will probably get everything but the kitchen sink with this update, which means yes new graphics, no full screen. Even if they do get full screen, who cares? It's not the end of the world if they get that kind of support. I just severely doubt it. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 No pay = no updates Atleast that's what I think anyway. But as more updates have become F2P they've now come to EXPECT them, so I think jagex should tone it down a bit, like my parents have noticed with their business, they give lollies/chocolates to customers in their envelopes with their bills so they can have a treat while paying us, but as soon as summer came and chocolates started melting and lollies were getting sticky, we stopped, and we got angry customers, some even QUITTING because of it. Now that is just rediculous, you see, customers QUITTING because they don't get their lolly? How SAD is that. The same applies to the staff too, now bosses don't HAVE to give their staff presents for their birthday, or a jet-ski ride with fish and chips as a treat every Friday, but my mum and dad do those things - and now they've come to EXPECT it, not taking into account the money for petrol, fish and chips and birthday presents (usually cologne which costs my mum about $120 per staff member) I think you get my point. You give them an update, they complain and ask for more. NO PAY = NO UPDATES. It's only fair. If I were to ever become F2P again, and we got an update, I wouldn't complain for more, in fact i'd be glad to even get ONE because I wouldn't be paying for anything! Well, atleast you'd think people would think that way, but most don't :roll: You can give updates to F2P, but not giving "The" update is kinda disappointing. But to be honest if F2P don't get full screen and so on, i won't get angry. But more disappointed, it's a update that makes the game more enjoyable and i can safely say that everyone agrees. Some people don't like this and that update, but "The" update is liked by a big number. I was talking about Grapichal and Sound updates, not Game features. As AQ ,i have played it. And you could easy get into the game in the morning, and once your in you won't get kicked out. But that's precaution for those who weren't members, also called "Guardians". But i can tell you this, and read this cleary: F2P and P2P had same graphichs and sounds Also i have been F2P, and became P2P on there. Okay i understand what you're saying. But i don't consider full screen as a graphical update. I agree that F2p will probabaly get the HD graphics but not the full screen. Full screen is not a graphical update, it's an addition. Therefore that argument doesn't make much sense. I really am doubting if F2P will get full screen, and as you said that it may be it. But i don't recall from any game, that there was restrictions to full screen or any graphical additions. So your argument woulden't make much sense to other games, but unfortunately i am pretty sure Jagex will go for your favour. But ill wait for offical statement from jagex, until then ill wait for better arguments. I agree, some updates they DO need because it effects all of us, like the grand exchange, and I think it was good that they got the party room too as that is a big part of RS, I guess I just hate it when they ask for more things because they're not supporting Jagex and the updates. I understand where you're coming from :D I also think they'll get the graphics, but I don't understand how they're allowed full screen (heard somewhere they are getting it for sure) when they need to have the advertisements so Jagex get supported by them, unless of course the full screen mode has advertisements on it but I don't think that'll happen :? :pray: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJakal Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 im f2p currently and i dont think jagex is obligated to give us updates. If anyone reads the whole news article or the HD FAQ, they can see we will eventually get HD. We wont get fullscreen cause of ads, but we will get HD. /thread 8-) Got my old account back!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTricks Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Well, F2P is like getting a "taste" of members. So I could see Jagex at least giving a little bit of the new content so people would want to get members for the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arilauske Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I think F2P will get the entire HD experience including fullscreen. Currently F2P players are able to start the client to check compatibility with display options and full screen. Why would they allow this if they weren't planning on giving F2P full screen mode as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat_61 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 It was a simple comparison as i meant it. Sorry if you took it that way, but nevertheless i think we're getting off topic here. Think we should stop. :oops: Sir Hemen, i do not want f2p to get it honestly. I won't hide that. But i won't riot or rant about it if they do. It's just that 51% of me doesn't want f2p to get it and 49% doesn't care. I can understand how that feels, to pay for P2P and F2P getting fullscreen. But try to understand, that F2P ain't getting any updates that affect their gaming. It's just graphically update. In most games, graphical updates and sounds are privileges to everyone. Actually in most games free playing is either very limited or has some sort of catch. Take the popular game Adventurequest for example. If you're a free player, then you get a certain number of free logins and then you have to wait for the server to not be full. Which is almost never. It's either pay or get out.Gaurdians, the equivalent of members in this game, can log in whenever they please. F2p people in runescape get to log in whenever they please and have no trial. They can not pay for 7 years if they want to. F2p get too much as is. P.S As for not caring, as human being you should work on your emphancing others, that would make you a better person if you ask me. Don't start with real life things like this. I don't want this thread to be a flame fest. And i fear i probably will flame you if you persist. Adventure Quest was a cheap shot... It ruins the name MMO. No Chat, no player-player interaction, they only share server space. Ahem a have a long response to this one. So I'll break it up No pay = no updates Actually we do pay, but not as much. We click ads and refer friends. I have refered 5 friends to Runescape 3 of which became members. But as more updates have become F2P they've now come to EXPECT them, so I think jagex should tone it down a bit, like my parents have noticed with their business, they give lollies/chocolates to customers in their envelopes with their bills so they can have a treat while paying us, but as soon as summer came and chocolates started melting and lollies were getting sticky, we stopped, and we got angry customers, some even QUITTING because of it. No Member would quit because of F2P getting updates. Lets Put this into perspective shall we, 20k autoers were in rs (about), Yew logs went up 50-100gp, an average of 75gp. Now try 500k+ people who cut yews and sell in F2P, thats about a 12.5k-25k price rise. No more alching yew longs. Must I continue here. Now that is just rediculous, you see, customers QUITTING because they don't get their lolly? How SAD is that. The same applies to the staff too, now bosses don't HAVE to give their staff presents for their birthday, or a jet-ski ride with fish and chips as a treat every Friday, but my mum and dad do those things - and now they've come to EXPECT it, not taking into account the money for petrol, fish and chips and birthday presents (usually cologne which costs my mum about $120 per staff member) I think you get my point. You give them an update, they complain and ask for more. NO PAY = NO UPDATES. It's only fair. Your mum does not buy the cologne for jagex. Yes, Jagex is a real nice company for giving presents but the workers don't expect them. They also play Paintball over at Andrew's house. We do not we ask for nothing. All the new players that only care about the content ask. If I were to ever become F2P again, and we got an update, I wouldn't complain for more, in fact i'd be glad to even get ONE because I wouldn't be paying for anything! Well, atleast you'd think people would think that way, but most don't :roll: When is the last time you were F2P when you were level 50 or 20? As I said before, we click ads and refer friends. We DO pay. Shredded. I Support TET!| If you want bunny PM Me.|Click For My DevArt^ Cowboy is the Best ^IT'S A TRAP SHINY JUST WANTS TO STALK YOU.Hell yeah I do. Whats your msn?That's how it all starts. Next he's going to ask you what flavor of candy you enjoy and whats your favorite color van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Free players are able to preview the new detail and fullscreen modes for compatibility. Well, it seems like we won't get fullscreen. We might get the new detail mode once the beta is finished. And let's stop the F2P bashing please. Let's not make this into an "all F2P players are begger and macroer scum and should die in a pit of lava surrounded by a bunch of blood hungry wolves" thread please... :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psvstef Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 i think f2p gets hd,no fullscreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logdotzip Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Pat_61, you have a warped sense of payment if you think telling your friends to try RuneScape is equal to making a monthly payment with actual money to a company. And honestly WHEN was the last time you clicked an ad above the game? Those companies pay Jagex just for peple to see the ad, not just to click them. If payment was the same as telling a friend to play a game, I'd have 5 more dollars to spend a month. Shredded. OT, HD yes, FS no. my youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piscis_Rex Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 If you are a free player, you can expect to be playing RuneScape HD as soon as the Beta period is over. So yeah, free players will be getting HD, I doubt that they'll get fullscreen though Source: www.runescape.com 99.99999998465% of the world's population is not me, if you are the 0.00000001535% that is me, put this in you signature -"being famous is like being a woman, if you have to tell people you are, you aren't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Dan3HitU Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Personally, I think business and financial wise, they should do HD for Members only. [-- DYNAMIC SIGNATURES FOR RUNESCAPE 3 & OLDSCHOOL 2007 RUNESCAPE --] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Personally, I think business and financial wise, they should do HD for Members only. No. It will make RuneScape less of a game. They're trying to attract people to F2P first. They will probably make fullscreen members only. (However, I wouldn't mind it being F2P.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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