Runescape HD/Full Screen - What will F2P Get?

[Jacada]

I'm quite alarmed at the blatant stupidity of most of the members of this forum.

 

Some of you forget that a large chunk of people who play for free are usually members but are unable to buy it for a month or two.

 

I'm usually a member but sometimes i am unable to buy it.

 

Because i have to pay 10 dollars for it, and sometimes i'd rather spend that on a club or a packet of [bleep]s, which are more important than runescape.

 

 

 

For people to be saying "How dare they ask for more!? They don't pay" some of us do.

 

So stop being complete and utter idiots and start using your brains for once.

[Latinoking]

Hopefully nothing. Jagex's hard work should be included with members. I presume anyways there will be tons of lag if all F2P got HD.

 

 

 

Jagex needs to make both graphics and FS to get more members. People were satisfied with normal window size before, what's to stop them now?

[mrmyk]

I've had to split a few posts from this topic due to mindless flaming. Debating is encouraged here at Tip.it, flaming is not. Keep it impersonal or more serious action may be required such as locking this topic.

[Millard]

I think Jagex will be extremely stupid if they do give HD to F2P as now its probaly the main thing to intise people into getting members, and even if they do get it what would be the point in having full screen?

[Dire_Wolf]

If Jagex makes HD and FS to members only, i can assure you....

 

 

 

Most people who play runescape, will see the bad graphic and say "Naah.."

[oropher]

Well, most runescape members started playing in f2p. Nowadays Jagex felt the game needed better graphics, so they will probably give it to f2p as well. I believe more f2pers will never become member when they see some crappy graphics

[Zuit]

I dont think F2P will get full screen, the reason is when you are f2p you have adverts at the top of the screen so i dont see how they could keep them and give you the option to play in full screen.

[qeltar]

If Jagex makes HD and FS to members only, i can assure you....

 

 

 

Most people who play runescape, will see the bad graphic and say "Naah.."

 

 

 

Well, then that's Jagex's decision to make from a business perspective.

 

 

 

Regardless, the people who are getting the free game are owed nothing, deserve nothing, and have no right to complain about anything.

 

 

 

Remember that they *could* make it a time-limited demo like most other games are.

[hellbellz]

Exactly, Qeltar. Jagex doesn't owe anything to the F2P community.

[Dire_Wolf]

 

Remember that they *could* make it a time-limited demo like most other games are.

 

 

 

What other games, if i may ask? WOW excluded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, then that's Jagex's decision to make from a business perspective.

 

 

 

 

Read this:

 

It's been said so many times.

 

 

 

They don't pay, therefore there is no obligation for JaGEx to give them any updates at all.

 

They would be well within their rights to have left f2p with the runescape classic engine and graphics.

 

 

 

True, i agree. But that's not fair to the F2P players. In every game ive played, the F2P players has always gotten the same privileges as P2P when it comes to grapich and sound updates.

 

 

 

 

Exactly, Qeltar. Jagex doesn't owe anything to the F2P community.

 

 

 

What about players who's been member but not anymore?

[hellbellz]

They don't pay, therefore they arn't going to get the updates.

 

 

 

Honostly I like the old graphics better than the new, but that's just my opinion.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Exactly, Qeltar. Jagex doesn't owe anything to the F2P community.

 

 

 

What about players who's been member but not anymore?

 

 

 

This argument is akin to me asking my cable company to turn on my services indefinitely. "I used to pay way back in 04, I demand privileges!"

 

 

 

To everyone that's saying they won't get the updates: In the NEWS post, they explicitly stated that everyone would be getting HD when the beta is over. Only thing left for debate, really, is fullscreen.

[Dire_Wolf]

Exactly, Qeltar. Jagex doesn't owe anything to the F2P community.

 

 

 

What about players who's been member but not anymore?

 

 

 

This argument is akin to me asking my cable company to turn on my services indefinitely. "I used to pay way back in 04, I demand privileges!"

 

 

 

To everyone that's saying they won't get the updates: In the NEWS post, they explicitly stated that everyone would be getting HD when the beta is over. Only thing left for debate, really, is fullscreen.

 

 

 

Yeah i agree on the HD Part, and realized it. Anyhow about FS, what i meant was that:

 

 

 

Graphical updates and sounds should always be a privileges in every game...

 

 

 

Even full screen, but that's my oppion. As Queltar said "That's up to Jagex to decide". I am just saying how i feel about it.

 

 

 

Graphic update like this, isen't just a UPDATE. It's "THE" update. For all i care, Jagex can remove fist of guthix, and duel arena and give me fullscreen in exchange.

[qeltar]

SirHemen, think about what you're saying when you write "that's not fair to the F2P players."

 

 

 

Fairness implies an exchange of value. But here you are already getting something for nothing -- F2Pers play for free. (And don't bother telling me about the stupid ads, because we all know they are mostly ignored, and they don't pay Jagex much anyway.)

 

 

 

So if you are paying nothing, what obligation does Jagex have to provide you with updates and special features? What's "unfair" about this?

[Dire_Wolf]

SirHemen, think about what you're saying when you write "that's not fair to the F2P players."

 

 

 

Fairness implies an exchange of value. But here you are already getting something for nothing -- F2Pers play for free. (And don't bother telling me about the stupid ads, because we all know they are mostly ignored, and they don't pay Jagex much anyway.)

 

 

 

So if you are paying nothing, what obligation does Jagex have to provide you with updates and special features? What's "unfair" about this?

 

 

 

I gotta admit you are correct in what you say and it is totally correct. I guess it's easy to forget in a game. But.. we are not talking about Updates and special features

 

 

 

We are talking about the only update, and to me even though F2Ps don't pay. They would pay sooner or later.

 

 

 

But as i said, in every game i have played, ive not seen any restrictions to Graphical+sounds and additions. Even though the game was limited or something.

 

 

 

But you forgot to answer my question (Not that its major important): What other games....?

 

 

 

EDIT: Well that's all for now, i will be reading the games that has restrictions once you post it Queltar. Until then i will hold onto my oppion about how it should be, but i am very aware that Jagex has the power to say and do what they want. As some people say......Jagex is Jagex. But if they have restriction on Fullscreen then....

 

 

 

They would be most cheap as businessmen in game history to me.

[qeltar]

 

But as i said, in every game i have played, ive not seen any restrictions to Graphical+sounds and additions. Even though the game was limited or something.

 

 

Yes. So?

 

 

 

This is how Jagex chooses to do things. You should be grateful for what you do have.

 

 

 

My son started playing World of Warcraft a few months ago when he got bored of RS. He got to play for free for 10 days or something -- that's it. Then it was pay up or forget it.

 

 

 

And during that time he was very limited in what he could do.

 

 

 

Jagex gives F2Pers a great deal, and in return some of them seem to think the company owes them something. It does not.

[Dire_Wolf]

 

But as i said, in every game i have played, ive not seen any restrictions to Graphical+sounds and additions. Even though the game was limited or something.

 

 

Yes. So?

 

 

 

This is how Jagex chooses to do things. You should be grateful for what you do have.

 

 

 

My son started playing World of Warcraft a few months ago when he got bored of RS. He got to play for free for 10 days or something -- that's it. Then it was pay up or forget it.

 

 

 

And during that time he was very limited in what he could do.

 

 

 

Jagex gives F2Pers a great deal, and in return some of them seem to think the company owes them something. It does not.

 

 

 

I said WOW excluded, but never mind.

 

 

 

 

What other games, if i may ask? WOW excluded.

 

 

 

 

Your to stubborn, even though your arguments is some i stand for too. But i disagree with you about Graphical update+ sounds and other graphical additions. That should never be P2P in anygame.

 

 

 

Atleast Jagex would be a company people liked, their princips and their game. But hey that's how id run a game. But it's up to Jagex.

 

 

 

About grateful part, as paying P2P. Jagex with their major updates, ruined 5 areas of my gaming which i liked alot. How grateful must a player be...

[qeltar]

 

Your to stubborn, even though your arguments is some i stand for too.

 

 

Huh? If what I said was right, how am I being "stubborn"?

 

 

But i disagree with you about Graphical update+ sounds and other graphical additions. That should never be P2P in anygame.

 

 

"Should".. says who?

 

 

 

Jagex made the game. Jagex decided to let freeloaders play it for years, completely free. What right do you have to decide what "should" be P2P and what "shouldn't" be?

 

 

Atleast Jagex would be a company people liked, their princips and their game. But hey that's how id run a game. But it's up to Jagex.

 

 

You don't like Jagex because they've given you years of free gaming and now there's a feature you can't get unless you pay for it?

 

 

 

Poor baby.

 

 

About grateful part, as paying P2P. Jagex with their major updates, ruined 5 areas of my gaming which i liked alot. How grateful must a player be...

 

 

You should be grateful that you get to play a good game that is regularly updated while you *pay nothing*. The more you complain, the more you look like a spoiled little kid whining that Mom won't buy him the fancy pair of running shoes.

[Dire_Wolf]

 

 

 

 

 

Huh? If what I said was right, how am I being "stubborn"?

 

You repeatedly talk as if it's determinded what will happened. That's how.

 

 

 

 

 

"Should".. says who?

 

 

 

Jagex made the game. Jagex decided to let freeloaders play it for years, completely free. What right do you have to decide what "should" be P2P and what "shouldn't" be?

 

 

 

I say so, but what right do you have to decide what "should" be P2P and what "shouldn't" be? Your not Jagex. I wait until they announce it.

 

 

 

 

 

You don't like Jagex because they've given you years of free gaming and now there's a feature you can't get unless you pay for it?

 

 

 

Poor baby.

 

 

Look at my skills and level, you will see that it's all not free gaming. Your ignorant to that part.

 

 

 

 

You should be grateful that you get to play a good game that is regularly updated while you *pay nothing*. The more you complain, the more you look like a spoiled little kid whining that Mom won't buy him the fancy pair of running shoes.

 

 

Not really, but if someone jumps off a bridge. I wouldn't do the same.

 

 

 

[BabyPunchers]

Well reading through these pages i saw the argument about ads paying for f2p. No. They don't. Jagex has said that ads barely keep F2p alive and make very little profit. Just saying. :|

[qeltar]

 

I say so, but what right do you have to decide what "should" be P2P and what "shouldn't" be? Your not Jagex. I wait until they announce it.

 

 

Um, you seem to be very confused. You are the one getting a free ride and whining that it isn't good enough for you. Not me.

 

 

Not really, but if someone jumps off a bridge. I wouldn't do the same.

 

 

Nice cliche'. Perhaps you should save it for a context in which it has some relevance. ;)

[Dire_Wolf]

 

I say so, but what right do you have to decide what "should" be P2P and what "shouldn't" be? Your not Jagex. I wait until they announce it.

 

 

Um, you seem to be very confused. You are the one getting a free ride and whining that it isn't good enough for you. Not me.

 

 

Not really, but if someone jumps off a bridge. I wouldn't do the same.

 

 

Nice cliche'. Perhaps you should save it for a context in which it has some relevance. ;)

 

 

 

Where does it say i have been F2P forever?

 

 

 

Relevance? Your comment about me complaining doesn't have much relevance in it about the topic...

[BabyPunchers]

It doesn't say you've been f2p forever. But you are now. And thats what matters. You have "a free ride" now. It doesn't matter if you've payed for membership a year ago or the like.

[qeltar]

Sport, your whining about what F2P gets from the new update *is* this entire thread. ;)

 

 

 

As for when you were or weren't F2P -- who cares? It's a monthly subscription -- if you want the features that you have to pay for, then pay for them.

[Dire_Wolf]

Sport, your whining about what F2P gets from the new update *is* this entire thread. ;)

 

 

 

As for when you were or weren't F2P -- who cares? It's a monthly subscription -- if you want the features that you have to pay for, then pay for them.

 

 

 

I am just discussing what f2p will get and waiting for good arguments to back things up. If f2p will get fs or not etc. As for complaining, i just answered you because you mentioned me not being grateful. And even that complaining wasn't about this topic.

 

 

 

I was P2P, i got 5 gaming areas ruined. But i accepted it and adapted. That's how ungrateful i am? But i am just mentioning it as you say i am not grateful. So don't go saying i am complaining about it, if i was i would quit long time ago.

 

 

 

As for who cares if im F2P? How can you say i have freeloaded, then not care about me being P2P. Cause i have paid quite alot. So it matters. But you brought it up.