Clan Chat versus Internet Relay Chat

[Dbzruler72]

Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is thought to be superior to Clan Chat (CC) by clanners. Both have their advantages. For one, CC is more useful for clan wars because of its in-game application, but IRC is more useful as an every-day tool because it provides more conveniences & functions than CC.

 

 

 

Which do you prefer?

[ipwnage4lyfe]

I used to like CC but after seeing Jagex's stupidity I like IRC where you can mod your own channel. CC is useful for events and wars though.

[Pan_Nx]

Maintaining both is the best. But if choosing one, IRC. It allows the ability to be in multiple channels, share link, and just basic talking is much easier to do on IRC.

[Dbzruler72]

Right off the bat, heavy IRC users know the limitations of Clan Chat. First off, Clan Chat can't compete with IRC in terms of functionality. IRC can assign more powers, control IP interaction, set welcome messages, ban users for specific times, et cetera.

 

 

 

The only thing Clan Chat has on IRC is the power for certain users to accept or decline challenges, & even then there isn't an option for a certain rank to do so. Since Clan Chat came out, my clan doesn't use IRC anymore, but I would much rather use IRC for everything else other than warring. The two most annoying features about Clan Chat, in my opinion, is the problem with auto-logging into a chat & communicating with multiple channels

 

 

 

I know Clan Chat is in its infancy, & I like the idea of Jagex shedding light onto the clan world.

[thiesje]

Definitally IRC, we only use the cc for wars.

[Punc]

IRC hands down, I mean, you can slap people with a fish! That's a hand-down victory if I ever saw one. CC is only used for wars and events, where it is needed to be in CC (wars and minigames).

[Ts_Stormrage]

IRC, most very definitly...

 

 

 

We use CC for events and wars and such, but outside of those times, we only hang in there if you're desperate to get something while in Full Screen mode...

 

 

 

IRC has so much more...

 

Bots to check prices, call up someone's stats in an instant, see the overall averages of a clan, compare clan averages, see if someone is in a clan, find out how much more ores to mine or trees to chop till a next level... On top of RuneScript we have our own bot to set events in, so someone only has to type !event when on the channel to see when to be where...

 

 

 

All of this is made even easier because my clan has a WebIRC that allows you to interact with our IRC channel through a simple browser (for an example, just go to our site -> Chatroom) meaning ANYONE in my clan can find out what the next event is from behind the strictest of firewalls...

[wild_goat_14]

I actually prefer CC. Only for acessability though, as everyone who can play RS can use the CC. Switching between IRC and RS windows is also annoying IMO. I just prefer the simplicity of the CC system, but I still believe it could use some work.

[Ts_Stormrage]

Accessibility isnt an issue with this WebIRC that TSA has :mrgreen:

[red_Fat1]

Irc cuz theres no stupid filters and you can enforce your channel better.

[wild_goat_14]

Accessibility isnt an issue with this WebIRC that TSA has :mrgreen:

 

 

 

This is true, I've never heard of anyone having a problem getting into your IRC(myself included).

[KillTyrant]

The fact that irc is an area you can idle and have bots which help within game questions (ie bot that shows the current price of something in the GE) is infinitely better then cc atm. It saves me the need to tele or price check. I hope cc branches off and does its own thing instead of ripping of IRC or some other internet media.

[wild_goat_14]

I hope cc branches off and does its own thing instead of ripping of IRC or some other internet media.

 

 

 

Yes, improving an ingame feature to be like something outside that we all love would be so terrible.[/sarcasm]

 

 

 

This will probably never happen, but why wouldn't you want it to?

[leetscript]

IRC is wayyy better...i ONLY use cc if im at GWD or in a clan at bounty hunter..

 

 

 

#nicholas all the way

 

Proud owner of Crack, Kid

[KillTyrant]

I hope cc branches off and does its own thing instead of ripping of IRC or some other internet media.

 

 

 

Yes, improving an ingame feature to be like something outside that we all love would be so terrible.[/sarcasm]

 

 

 

This will probably never happen, but why wouldn't you want it to?

 

 

 

So you fear originality?? Why would you want the SAME EXACT thing but with just a different name to it? For that Ill just stay on IRC (DUH) Yes while making CC something that we already like and use. I for one value originality. Just copying and pasting coding from another program to mimic it I just dont think would make it any better outside of the fact that its in-game. Point im trying to make, I want CC to be used for the features for which ITSELF only has that IRC doesnt have (outside of accepting challenges from other clans)

[harold_king]

I hope you mean that you don't mind if CC implements useful features from IRC

 

Seeing as useful features are useful by definition, they shouldn't hurt

 

But of course it wouldn't do if it were "exactly the same", they could never allow you to have your own bots because of the security leak that would be so it couldn't even be exactly the same, but it would make sense if things like calculators and price checkers etc. would be build in - not likely to happen, but it would make sense anyhow

[spatulus13]

IRC, easily.

 

 

 

It allows for clan members who are currently unable to get on rs *points to self* to contact the clan.

 

Plus, theres no scripts on clan chat, which makes it slightly less fun.

[wild_goat_14]

I hope cc branches off and does its own thing instead of ripping of IRC or some other internet media.

 

 

 

Yes, improving an ingame feature to be like something outside that we all love would be so terrible.[/sarcasm]

 

 

 

This will probably never happen, but why wouldn't you want it to?

 

 

 

So you fear originality?? Why would you want the SAME EXACT thing but with just a different name to it? For that Ill just stay on IRC (DUH) Yes while making CC something that we already like and use. I for one value originality. Just copying and pasting coding from another program to mimic it I just dont think would make it any better outside of the fact that its in-game. Point im trying to make, I want CC to be used for the features for which ITSELF only has that IRC doesnt have (outside of accepting challenges from other clans)

 

 

 

You would rather use something out of game that is exactly the same? That's idiotic, as making an inconvienence to yourself is really, well, idiotic. You say you love IRC, and would hate CC if it were exactly the same? That's just stupid. Almost Fanboy-ish.

[s_dav135]

IRC is far superior imo. I only use clan chat for monster hunting and clan events. During the first week or so of release around 3 people in my old clan got muted for something that they had said on clan chat, from that moment onwards I've refused to regularly use it outside of events. Also as many of you have already pointed out, the features of IRC make day to day runescape life so much easier, and you can talk to friends in multiple different channels/networks.

[Dracion1]

Clan chat is useful, but IRC is far more superior. Far more customizable and versatile, and you don't have to log in to RS to use it.

[Snapdagon]

I prefer CC because it's in game and easier to access. It's also useful for those who can't get IRC(like me on my computer)

 

 

 

If I was fighting I wouldn't want to switch windows I would prefer to just type /message

 

 

 

But I agree that CC could,and needs to, improve.

[Eddo89]

IRC, though CC have its merits as well.

 

 

 

For intents of RS, clan chat has the upper hand definitely though. The fact you can talk during wars or hunts to everyone that is outside of public chat earshot without having to do an additional click is great. Advantage of it is that it is accessible to everyone, even those who use full screen.

 

 

 

But, I daresay, no clans have events 24/7. Still, is not as though clan members don't interact, so in the community standpoint IRC gets the thumbs up. There is no need to point put the reasons why as they are obvious, links, logging on etc. The most important part is that it allows for RS-offline chatting. People come and go in clans, for many is simply because they left the game. Yet, they are still online friends and surely you don't expect them to log on just to chat.

 

 

 

Most people who don't use IRC never tried it, only a very small proportion of people I met actually have problems connecting to it. It may be a little complex comparatively to CC, but surely any one with a mental capacity to join a clan can learn at least the basic aspects of IRC. If you use clients like SK, connecting to IRC can be one-click away and on the same screen as well, unless on full screen. It is also an avenue for muted players to communicate freely.

 

 

 

CC at current stage have no auto-connect, which is why I hate using it. If I take a small break, I need to re-connect. Same with changing worlds. And while you are offline, you will miss parts of conversation, and peeps have to re-type things you missed if it was important. This problem, along with links and administrative issues won't be solved unless Jagex fundamentally change how they run CC, as how RS operates restricts obvious solutions. I also dislike the "/" part. If you forgot to type it in, you have to type the line again. Minor but annoying.

 

 

 

So, CC is a tool to help in playing RS. IRC is a tool to a clan community. I don't think you can build a community by CC alone.

[KillTyrant]

 

 

 

So you fear originality?? Why would you want the SAME EXACT thing but with just a different name to it? For that Ill just stay on IRC (DUH) Yes while making CC something that we already like and use. I for one value originality. Just copying and pasting coding from another program to mimic it I just dont think would make it any better outside of the fact that its in-game. Point im trying to make, I want CC to be used for the features for which ITSELF only has that IRC doesnt have (outside of accepting challenges from other clans)

 

 

 

You would rather use something out of game that is exactly the same? That's idiotic, as making an inconvienence to yourself is really, well, idiotic. You say you love IRC, and would hate CC if it were exactly the same? That's just stupid. Almost Fanboy-ish.

 

 

 

Jagex wont rework the interface to enable it to be exactly like IRC. So why try to emulate it? It will be a failed attempt to recreate something that people already have. I said I like IRC and I would continue to use it IF CC tried to emulate IRC. Flaw #1 in your argument. Flaw #2, who is to say thats "inconvenient". To my knowledge convinces is strictly opinionated as with something being "Good" or "Bad". So Yes I would rather use something That Is faster better and more highly used then something with is trying to emulate the faster better more highly used program. Its only 1 click away so its pretty much equivalent to the 1 extra key you have to press in order for your clan members to see what your saying. As for me being fanboy-ish. I dont use forums enough to know the exact meaning of that but I can tell you this. It doesn't matter to me either way because I dont know you and you dont know me thus this going back and forth is just stupid. =]

[wild_goat_14]

It's called a debate. I don't see how two people disagreeing suddenly becomes 'stupid'.

 

 

 

But whatever, seeing as you don't want to debate it, I'll leave it here.

[Moonshadow]

Right off the bat, heavy IRC users know the limitations of Clan Chat. First off, Clan Chat can't compete with IRC in terms of functionality. IRC can assign more powers, control IP interaction, set welcome messages, ban users for specific times, et cetera.

 

 

 

The only thing Clan Chat has on IRC is the power for certain users to accept or decline challenges, & even then there isn't an option for a certain rank to do so. Since Clan Chat came out, my clan doesn't use IRC anymore, but I would much rather use IRC for everything else other than warring. The two most annoying features about Clan Chat, in my opinion, is the problem with auto-logging into a chat & communicating with multiple channels

 

 

 

I know Clan Chat is in its infancy, & I like the idea of Jagex shedding light onto the clan world.

 

I am in 3 clans. One skilling, one warring, one merchanting clan. The skilling clan (TFS) has an active cc which I like, but no IRC (I maintain a fanmade one, but it isn't that popular) In the warring clan (PKM) there is a cc, but it is never used except for wars and the IRC is very dead and the name is long and hard to remember. The last merchanting clan has no clan chat (there have been attempts to start one) and no irc (I have a name registered, but no one has entered it.

 

 

 

I like IRC better than clan chat because of the reasons DBZ said, but there is also no risk of being banned for some wack-o reason because you say something that could be taken out of context to be against a rule. Hobo in TFS got banned for saying he was an uber mod or something and he was talking about on the forums. He got banned for Jagex staff impersonation. In clan chat there is a censor, which filters random words at times, there is a line cap so you have to break your message up into seperate lines which becomes a hassle and you can't post links which can be a real pain.

 

 

 

If you are muted, you can't talk on clan chat (unless you use the pitiful excuse for communication that is called quick chat). You can only be in one clan chat at a time, while in IRC, you can be in as many channels and servers as you want. I have 4 seperate server windows open, and I am on about 9 channels on all of those servers.