Ok so, another update on my prom situation if anyone cares haha

 

Prepare to be possibly mildly confused.

 

So, the girl I wanted to bring to prom went on with the plan to tell the guy she was currently going with that she didnt want to go anymore. However, the guy said that he feels really shafted if she ditches him now (which is weird, because he still has a lot of time to find another date and hes a popular guy) and still wants to go with her. So, the girl tells me to talk to him and see if I can talk some sense into him. I texted him saying "i know your going to prom with (we'll call her Natalie) Natalie but I was hoping if you had anyone else in mind you could take them and I could take Natalie. Either way, get back to me and its cool if not." Anyways, he hasnt responded back. Another option that would lead to me taking Natalie is this: At first, the guy asked another girl but she said no because she wanted to go with someone from another school. When she heard about our situation, she said that if the guy she wants to go with says no, she'll go with the guy whos going with Natalie and I could take Natalie. Sounds alright to me, but the problem is who knows if this will happen.

 

When I get back from school I start talking to another girl I used to have a crush on and tell her the entire story. To my suprise, she says if I dont go with Natalie, she will be my backup plan. AWESOME. I told her that i'll tell her by Monday who I am going with for sure. So right now im pretty happy because I have a possibility of going with either of the two girls I wanted to the most. The only problem with my backup plan is that she isnt going to the hotel for the after party, but the good thing about that is that Natalie is and we would probably spend the night together. However, the bad thing about going with my backup plan is that Natalie is having a bunch of the grade over (who I hang out with the most) over to drink and stuff before prom, but my backup plan is going somewhere else, so i'd have to go with her (which i dont mind that much).

 

ANYWAYYYS, hopefully some of that made sense... I really should have named all the people before I told the story, instead of calling the people "back up plan", "the guy", and "other girl"

going to prom, and sleping with another girl? Pimp.

 

 

@Rpg, I think dropping step 1 should be your first start, especially with the [cabbage] she's been causing you. Somehow I highly doubt she'll stick to not screwing around with other guys. (just the obvious view to me)

 

:(

 

I know. It's a pretty major concern. Gftog of course, being the cure to this fear. So...romy... think I might take you up on that offer. Shall we discuss such things via PM or here? Either way's fine by me. I could use the extra tips.

 

I love you guys. I really do.

 

I miss sex.

I miss sex.

 

Well better than

 

I miss sex.

 

But the question is, does sex miss you?

I miss sex.

Just be glad you've done it more then twice and (hopefully) not with a fussy woman.

Be thankful you've done it at all >___>

 

Oh well, along the roads I go. We'll see how things go from here.

Just out of curiosity, when are you guys cocky about everything (regular stuff, like "I'm an awesome graphic designer" and preposterous stuff "On top of being a great musician, designer, and person all around, I can also predict the future!"), or just one of the two?

Ok so, another update on my prom situation if anyone cares haha

 

Prepare to be possibly mildly confused.

 

So, the girl I wanted to bring to prom went on with the plan to tell the guy she was currently going with that she didnt want to go anymore. However, the guy said that he feels really shafted if she ditches him now (which is weird, because he still has a lot of time to find another date and hes a popular guy) and still wants to go with her. So, the girl tells me to talk to him and see if I can talk some sense into him. I texted him saying "i know your going to prom with (we'll call her Natalie) Natalie but I was hoping if you had anyone else in mind you could take them and I could take Natalie. Either way, get back to me and its cool if not." Anyways, he hasnt responded back. Another option that would lead to me taking Natalie is this: At first, the guy asked another girl but she said no because she wanted to go with someone from another school. When she heard about our situation, she said that if the guy she wants to go with says no, she'll go with the guy whos going with Natalie and I could take Natalie. Sounds alright to me, but the problem is who knows if this will happen.

 

When I get back from school I start talking to another girl I used to have a crush on and tell her the entire story. To my suprise, she says if I dont go with Natalie, she will be my backup plan. AWESOME. I told her that i'll tell her by Monday who I am going with for sure. So right now im pretty happy because I have a possibility of going with either of the two girls I wanted to the most. The only problem with my backup plan is that she isnt going to the hotel for the after party, but the good thing about that is that Natalie is and we would probably spend the night together. However, the bad thing about going with my backup plan is that Natalie is having a bunch of the grade over (who I hang out with the most) over to drink and stuff before prom, but my backup plan is going somewhere else, so i'd have to go with her (which i dont mind that much).

 

ANYWAYYYS, hopefully some of that made sense... I really should have named all the people before I told the story, instead of calling the people "back up plan", "the guy", and "other girl"

 

I don't know why...but I have a feeling your Natalie has some secret motive... I could easily be wrong though, it's just a hunch...sort of. I'm glad things will work out either way :).

 

 

 

Rpg- I guess there's no reason to do it on PM when others could use my advice to their own gain, so here's some tips:

The thing with meeting stranger women, is that you do not want them to know you're interested. I heard of many guys simply approaching stranger women and telling them they're interested. That's just wrong, you "reveal your secret card" right off, lose the mystery, and most importantly, you pose no challenge. Why would a lady take your offer if she knows it's so easy? If she knows all she has to do is say 'yes'? (And considering it's a hot one, she probably has a variety of men offering about the same thing.)

So now that we're clear you don't want to tell her you're interested, what do you do instead?

Well, you have a few choices, but I'm going to go with just one for now. Ask for help :).

Whether it be asking her to tell you which clothes fit you best (if you're in a clothes shop). asking her to help to pick a present for your mom, or anything else that comes to mind. Ofcourse this does not fit everywhere, and if you need some other options for different places I'd list one or two more later, but it works where it works :).

By the way, you don't want to ask "yes or no" questions, as these tend to get things stuck, better ask something without an easy answer.

Anyway, after a while of her helping you, you should simply reveal something about yourself. It can be anything, preferably something she could relate to, like an embarrasing moment or something like that. The reason you do that is that, again, you want to go forward with the girl without revealing your interest in her. What goes here is sort of a mirror-effect. When she listens and relates to your story, she'd most probably reveal something about herself, after which you're no longer total strangers.

The reason I gave embarrasment as an example, is that it makes things easier to "laugh about together", but other stories could fit just as well.

Now that you're no longer strangers you can go on and talk a little, and then simply start using any (useful and known to work) method and get her number at the end. Tango could be good here, some others it would take atleast an hour to list, but I gave you the start, and you should be okay from here :).

 

 

Just to sum up, there are 3 stages-

1. Asking for help.

2. Revealing something about yourself, telling a story, etc. In return you're very likely to be granted the same treatment.

3. Hit on her :P.

Just to sum up, there are 3 stages-

1. Asking for help.

2. Revealing something about yourself, telling a story, etc. In return you're very likely to be granted the same treatment.

3. Hit on her :P.

 

1. Works fine

2. Leads her to see you as a friend

3. Confuses her because she thinks you just want to be friends

 

This is what everyone here has been doing (and what I used to do) for years and It doesn't often work.

 

Maybe you meant something different, but this is how guys are likely to interpret it.

 

'Hit on her' first. Flirt, but switch between showing interest and showing disinterest. (push pull/tango/whatever else it has been known as) Once she's attracted, THEN start building rapport like revealing something about yourself.

Just to sum up, there are 3 stages-

1. Asking for help.

2. Revealing something about yourself, telling a story, etc. In return you're very likely to be granted the same treatment.

3. Hit on her :P.

 

1. Works fine

2. Leads her to see you as a friend

3. Confuses her because she thinks you just want to be friends

 

This is what everyone here has been doing (and what I used to do) for years and It doesn't often work.

 

Maybe you meant something different, but this is how guys are likely to interpret it.

 

'Hit on her' first. Flirt, but switch between showing interest and showing disinterest. (push pull/tango/whatever else it has been known as) Once she's attracted, THEN start building rapport like revealing something about yourself.

 

#2- Not really. There really isn't much choice. You don't want her to know you're hitting on her yet, and neither do you want to stop doing that. The only choice is to break the ice in some very not suspicous way- like the one I presented. If you do it right, it should definitely work.

 

This method has been tried, according to my notebook, 47 times by my brother, and another 22 by other men. It's worked 62/69 times (worked meaning either the guy got her number, or got to make out with her the same day, etc).

 

I think the reason you believe it would make her see you as a friend is that you don't realize it's only done once at that time. You don't just start throwing stories at each other, you do it once, she does it once, and that breaks the ice.

#2- Not really. There really isn't much choice. You don't want her to know you're hitting on her yet, and neither do you want to stop doing that. The only choice is to break the ice in some very not suspicous way- like the one I presented. If you do it right, it should definitely work.

 

This method has been tried, according to my notebook, 47 times by my brother, and another 22 by other men. It's worked 62/69 times (worked meaning either the guy got her number, or got to make out with her the same day, etc).

 

I think the reason you believe it would make her see you as a friend is that you don't realize it's only done once at that time. You don't just start throwing stories at each other, you do it once, she does it once, and that breaks the ice.

 

Break the ice before asking her to help you go clothes shopping not after :/

 

Also getting a number means nothing, and a make out means very little unless you're fairly young. I mean making out is like hello on the dance floor :P

#2- Not really. There really isn't much choice. You don't want her to know you're hitting on her yet, and neither do you want to stop doing that. The only choice is to break the ice in some very not suspicous way- like the one I presented. If you do it right, it should definitely work.

 

This method has been tried, according to my notebook, 47 times by my brother, and another 22 by other men. It's worked 62/69 times (worked meaning either the guy got her number, or got to make out with her the same day, etc).

 

I think the reason you believe it would make her see you as a friend is that you don't realize it's only done once at that time. You don't just start throwing stories at each other, you do it once, she does it once, and that breaks the ice.

 

Break the ice before asking her to help you go clothes shopping not after :/

 

Also getting a number means nothing, and a make out means very little unless you're fairly young. I mean making out is like hello on the dance floor :P

 

How would you do that?

 

And I have no idea what women you meet, but most women I know/have met wouldn't give their number to a stranger easily, let alone make out with a stranger.

I want to play the "Have you met Ted" (How I Met Your Mother) game with a friend of mine, he being Ted (Not introducing him as Ted though :razz: ). Mostly because my friend is, in all honesty, hot as [bleep], but doesn't have much confidence, and literally no history when it comes to dating. Pretty much everyone who knows him agrees on this as well (The looks part)

Basically, I'm wondering if anyone's ever tried. It also seems like a crap load of fun even if it doesn't work.

 

Oh, and tomorrow I find out if rock climbing is a good date idea.

romy's method isn't too far off from what I was working on. I suppose there's no shame on revealing trade secrets on here, so I'll be as specific as possible. I've been working on situation ignitions from cold starts. One of my friends has gotten oddly good at it, but I've yet to get anything out of him other than encouragement to try. Anywho, my version looks something like this:

 

1) Look your best [and peacock]

2) find a clipboard, a marker, and two different tpyes of cologne bottles

3) apply one cologne to yourself

4) go to mall

5) ask groups of the female persuasion their opinion on the bottle of cologne you didn't use

6) pretend to care what they have to say about it's smell, and mark it on a tally sheet

7) ask if they prefer the way you smell (gets them in nice and close, plus smell is one of the largest erotic triggers)

8) gauge opinion, if poisitve, proceed to 9. if not, continue pretending to care about your survey and wish them fairwell

9) compliment them [prefereablly a neg to the 'target' girl, while simply being nice to any of her friends]

10) tell random interesting story, that may or may not reate to the clothing you are wearing, or they are wearing

11) smile, and look directly into 'target' 's eyes

12) realize that you've never exchanged names, and do so in a funny manner [possibly make a guessing game out of it?]

13) [needs number closer, possibly relating to "survey information"]

14) move on to new group as soon as possible

 

 

how was that? took some hard thinking, but I think it's getting there. I have another method in mind, but it would only work at cultural gatherings, like art festivals.

That just seems like you're trying a bit too hard

That just seems like you're trying a bit too hard

 

 

point taken, but I've tried a completely different way, back in the winter while single. Didn't work. Basically I would have conversattions with people, that were really loud, and would hopefully attract other's to join it, from being interesting. That much worked, but I couldn't quite find a way to turn it from a friendly group discussion, to anything along the lines of closing. If the conversation starts out too friendly, I can't shake the feeling that I'll land in the friendzone. But at the same time, I wasn't trying very hard to close, I was just haivng fun. Gained me lots of friends. So there was one upside to it. Did nothing for me regarding finding a new 'lady friend' though. I'm not sure if it was the setting, or the topics, but it was very very hard to build attraction. I feel like I need to go into the situation knowing what I'm doing, with a motive or a "mission" to properly build attraction. Going into it improv, will only land me friends. Theoretically. I guess it could have used more testing, but in 2 months it only yielded friends, so I've kinda ditched the idea.

Yea that seems like a lot of work... Why not just take it easy for a while? Go solo for a bit until you meet a girl that you really like start over? (that's just what I would do :rolleyes:) But if you do try that, tell us how it goes ok?

Yea that seems like a lot of work... Why not just take it easy for a while? Go solo for a bit until you meet a girl that you really like start over? (that's just what I would do ) But if you do try that, tell us how it goes ok?

 

 

It's not too much work. Not any more work than it should be any way. The harder it is to convince the girl your the better/best option, the more worthy of a relationship that girl is. but I'm not exactly looking for a relationship at the moment anyway. If it happens, it happens. but right now I want two things: 1) work on my networking skills, and 2) find a girl to just date. Not nesesarily seriously. Just to go out with, hook up with, have fun with. That sorta thing. If it gets serious? great! but I'm just lookign for a girl at the moment. And I will of course report back here with any progress I make, and the results of any given method I use

rpg it really just looks like you've taken a few ideas from me/lent and kinda over thought it.

 

Here's what you do: Improve your fashion until you start getting checked out. Then when you do, make eye contact and walk over to her. Just say 'you can't look at me like that without saying hi' (not my own but it works great) There's your conversion starter.

Now 'you remind me of someone, it's bugging the hell out of me.' Corny but it works as a transition into regular conversation.

 

Done. Now go do it.

 

All this other stuff me and lent talk about is really just having fun. It's not about thinking into it or planning it, just go talk to people. Walking around with a tie and clipboard and asking girls to do a survey where the only questions are their name and number is great and all, but it seems kinda pathetic if it's not spontaneous.

 

How would you do that?

 

And I have no idea what women you meet, but most women I know/have met wouldn't give their number to a stranger easily, let alone make out with a stranger.

 

By starting a conversation and talking for a bit. If she agrees to help you go clothes shopping, the ice is already broken. There isn't any need to do it again by stepping down the 'ljbf path' and hitting on her after.

 

I've met all kinds of women, and most don't think much about giving away their number. At 1 point I would know a girl was into me, get her number, and then when I talked to her again she was far less interested. This happened a lot until I got a tip on solving that.

 

The make out with a stranger thing is really only girls at clubs, (or drunk girls) but it still really doesn't mean much. I've heard lots of stories from girls who have made out with a guy just because they felt bad and didn't want to push him away.

 

point taken, but I've tried a completely different way, back in the winter while single. Didn't work. Basically I would have conversattions with people, that were really loud, and would hopefully attract other's to join it, from being interesting. That much worked, but I couldn't quite find a way to turn it from a friendly group discussion, to anything along the lines of closing. If the conversation starts out too friendly, I can't shake the feeling that I'll land in the friendzone. But at the same time, I wasn't trying very hard to close, I was just haivng fun. Gained me lots of friends. So there was one upside to it. Did nothing for me regarding finding a new 'lady friend' though. I'm not sure if it was the setting, or the topics, but it was very very hard to build attraction. I feel like I need to go into the situation knowing what I'm doing, with a motive or a "mission" to properly build attraction. Going into it improv, will only land me friends. Theoretically. I guess it could have used more testing, but in 2 months it only yielded friends, so I've kinda ditched the idea.

 

What's wrong with just making friends?

 

I posted a solution to your issue a while back. 'guys I gotta borrow your friend for a minute' Take her hand and lead her somewhere else. Done. You don't need a reason but if you want one then do 'the cube' which I also posted a while back.

 

Or you could just get her number and finish the conversation later.

 

Over thinking is a good way to fail. If you get out there and do something and run into a problem, you can solve it then, or ask here (because chances are I had the same problem and things will work much better.

was "the cube" the corny magic trick, or am I thinking of something else? Also, as far as the pulling the the one girl away, that works fine I'm sure, but seeing as how that's not a natural motion from me, I wouldn't naturally know where to go with it, which causes issues. It depends what mood I'm in, I think. If I'm in a fun and light hearted mood, I function socially much much better. Maybe in the right mood in the right moment I could go somewhere with it. But it seems to iffy. As for making friends? there's nothing wrong with it at all. In fact it was an over use of Lent's "command the party" theory. I commanded attention, but aparently didn't come off with enough atraction value. Nothing wrong with making friends, and if I happen to make friends along the way - great, but that's not my priority at the moment.

 

...I think I'm going to have to toy with my fashion a bit. it's been a while since I updated my clothing

was "the cube" the corny magic trick, or am I thinking of something else? Also, as far as the pulling the the one girl away, that works fine I'm sure, but seeing as how that's not a natural motion from me, I wouldn't naturally know where to go with it, which causes issues. It depends what mood I'm in, I think. If I'm in a fun and light hearted mood, I function socially much much better. Maybe in the right mood in the right moment I could go somewhere with it. But it seems to iffy. As for making friends? there's nothing wrong with it at all. In fact it was an over use of Lent's "command the party" theory. I commanded attention, but aparently didn't come off with enough atraction value. Nothing wrong with making friends, and if I happen to make friends along the way - great, but that's not my priority at the moment.

 

...I think I'm going to have to toy with my fashion a bit. it's been a while since I updated my clothing

The cube was the one where you tell them to think of a cube, and the ask questions like what colour is it, how big it is, then say there's a ladder, where is it in relation to the cube. There's probably more to it, all that I can think off the top of my head.

[hide=The Cube Explained]The cube game is a cold reading technique. By asking a few questions you are able to give the impression you have a deep understanding of a girl. The cube game builds rapport.

 

I've run the Cube on several women, and it's never failed to amaze them. Usually it gives a good approximate idea of the person. Very efficient. Good fun too.

 

The Game

Prepare your victim (the girl) by building up the game. Ask her if she's sure she wants to do this, tell her she may find out things about herself that she doesn't want to know. You can then start to ask the questions; for her part she should give you as much detail as she can.

 

Imagine this simple picture with just three things in it: the sky, the horizon and the desert.

 

In this picture imagine a cube, where is it ? What is it made of ? How big is it ?

 

Now add a ladder, where is it ? What is it made of ? How big is it ? How many rungs are there ? Where is it in relation to the cube ?

 

Add some flowers to the picture, how many are there ? What kind ?, where are they in relation to the cube and the ladder ?

 

Add a horse to the picture, where is it ? What color is it ? What is it doing ? How many rungs, where is it in relation to everything else ?

 

There's a storm in the picture. Where is it ?, Which way is it proceeding ? What kind of storm ? How big is it ?

 

Interpreting the Results

 

The Cube - Is how the girl views herself.

 

The Color of the Cube -> http://www.pick-up-a...ube-vt1509.html [click]

 

The Ladder - Friends and family.

 

The Flowers - Children in her life.

 

The Horse - Her lover or ideal lover.

 

The Storm - Troubles in her life.

 

The questions should be asked in the correct order (Cube, Ladder, Flowers, Horse, Storm). Interpret the picture in that order after she has finished answering all the questions. You interpret the questions individually and their relationship with the other pieces of the picture.

 

The possible interpretations below are just examples, you may adjust these to fit in with what you already know about the girl. They are fairly vague and could almost apply to anyone.

 

The Cube - Herself

 

Small cube - feels small, ignored.

 

On the ground - well grounded.

 

In the sky - imaginative, un-realistic.

 

Far away - feels left behind.

 

Transparent - purity.

 

The Ladder - Friends

 

Many rungs - many friends.

 

Few rungs - few close friends.

 

Far away from cube - keeps her friends at arms length.

 

Ladder bigger than cube - feels small in her social circle.

 

Ladder against cube - keeps her friends close.

 

The Flowers - Children

 

Number of flowers - number of children she wants to have around.

 

Flowers far away - does not want children.

 

Flowers close to cube - Feels very close to the children she has or will have.

 

Beautiful flowers - finds children very beautiful.

 

The Horse - Lover

 

Strong, large horse - She likes protective strong men.

 

Horse far away - Ideal man far away.

 

Weak horse - Envisions being stuck with a weak man.

 

Horse with flowers - Ideal man loves children.

 

The Storm - Trouble

 

Storm in distance - troubles are far away.

 

Storm close - going through hard times now.

 

Small storm - no real troubles in life.

 

Here are a few examples of how to impress the girls just telling them true things and adding some cold reading (if you don't know what is call reading or you want to learn more send me a pm asking).

 

XFman: Okay girl lets play a game.

 

HB10: sure

 

Xfman: Okay close your eyes think you are in a desert (highway forest any place will work. )

Now you see a cube, How big is ? How tall ? Is it flying ? laying on the ground? How far is from your perspective?

 

HB: is really big and tall is flying, about 2mts from ground and is like 4mts away from me.

 

(Answer: how big or tall is the size of her ego, flying or in the ground is how she think , she has a lot of imagination or she think more logical. how far is the cube form her is how close or far she is with her inner self)

 

*Note: Check how Im going to add some extra details about the girl by using some cold reading lines.

 

Xfman: Wow, Lets see. Your cube is big and tall, that is the size of your ego, so you have a big ego but you see yourself as a nice person, you always try to be positive but sometimes you feel down when bad things happen, Then; your cube is flying that means you are a creative person you are a thinker, not always but you like to imagine , I bet that sometimes when you go out with a boy, you start thinking how the date is going to be, And i can forgot, I also bet that you have all ready thought how your wedding is going to be. Now you told me that your cube is far fro you that is because sometimes you feel away from your inner you, you have doubts about what to do, sometimes you might feel insecure.

 

She might be impressed or she might think that is just [cabbage] but who cares she will want you to tell her more about her.

 

That is just a variation of the cube I just made out , in this link you can have the basic and try to add more of your own just think logical on what the description can mean.

 

And just a quick plus: tell her to describe the outside part of the cube and the inside part of the cube (the texture , etc... ) The outside part is the way she acts, the person she tries to be or appear to others and the inside is the really way she is.

 

Most of the time they will say the outside is hard and the inside is soft and smooth so you can just say , you try to be hard , but in the inside you still have your feelings, or when you meet someone is hard to this new person to learn about this really you but once a person is inside and start learning about your real you , he don't want to leave. Good luck any question just send me a PM.

 

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But if you want to learn more of the cube routine read this:

 

Ask the questions in the proper order (Cube, ladder, flowers,

horse, storm - in that order); interpret the picture in the same

order, and only AFTER she has imagined the entire picture (all five

pieces mentioned above). Heck, you might even hold on to some of it to

ensure a followup encounter. ("I need to think more about some of the

features of your horse. Will let you know when I have an

interpretation that I feel makes sense."). Some here on ASF may

disagree with some of the interpretations, but that's okay; I think if

an interpretation makes sense to me, it is probably correct.

There are two components to the interpretation of each of the five

pieces: the piece in itself, and its relation to the other pieces as

well as the overall picture. The sizes and positions of various things

are RELATIVE to one another and to the overall scene of the desert.

Moreover, the interpretations are not according to some rigid law,

they are just ways to make sense out of the woman's imagined picture,

but that is the best part because as far as we are concerned here in

ASF, that flexibility allows us to interpret things in a way that

helps the seduction (a negative interpretation is a neg-hit! You can

include small negative inperpretations whenever necessary, while

generally giving a reasonably sensible interpretation overall).

1. THE CUBE:

Represents the woman's conception of herself. A huge cube covering

most of the scenery (Field of View or FOV) means she's got an inflated

ego, a sense of high self-importance. Other features of the cube could

mean:

Tiny cube => feels small, insignificant, ignored, modest

Cube resting on the ground => generally has a firm foothold on reality

Cube far away in the distance => Feels left behind by life

Cube flying in the air or levitated => daydreamer, imaginative but

unrealistic

Cube partly above the horizon line => ambitious

Cube below the horizon => not very ambitious

Cube resting on its edge => metastable life, perhaps?

Cube made of solid material => good sense of self-worth, well-grounded

personality

Cube made of gold => Thinks of herself as extremely precious

Cube made of glass or transparent cube => Considers herself pure

Cube full of slimy stuff => Hates herself completely

Cube hollow inside => feels hollow, unfulfilled in the extreme

[interesting example: one woman know very well imagined the Rubic's

cube, being twisted and turned by a child. I was not surprised because

she has a sever persecution complex and total paranoia, considers

everyone else stupid and childish (has a holier-than-thou mentality),

feels attacked by the world, and is an emotional basketcase]

2. THE LADDER:

Represents her close social support structure (friends; family in some

cases).

Long ladder with many rungs => big social circle, has many friends,

outgoing personality, sociable

Ladder made of some odd material => feels her friends are weird, very

different from normal people

Ladder with few rungs => has few close friends

Ladder in a less than good condition => believes people around her are

[bleep]ed up

Ladder far away from the cube => Does not let people get too close to

herself; keeps aloof, has a hard shell around herself

Ladder leaning against cube => Feels she does a lot of things for her

friends, supports them more than they support her, feels she has some

codependent people around her

Ladder on top of cube => Feels her friends/family are overbearing,

feels oppressed by them

Ladder much bigger than cube => feels small in her social circle

Ladder supporting cube (like, ladder under the cube) => feels her

close associates support her in her accomplishments

Strong ladder => is surrounded by strong people, feels secure in them

Burned up ladder => Feels surrounded by totally [bleep]ed up people who

are ruining themselves

3. THE FLOWERS:

Represent the place of children in her life.

Number of flowers => children she has or wants to have, or has/wants

to have around (See * below)

Flowers close to cube => Feels very close to the children she has or

will have

Flowers far away => Does not want children

Flowers blooming well => Feels positive about her children's lives

Flowers messed up => is surrounded by screwed up children

* Lots of flowers everywhere => Probably works with children, or would

like to; (One chick I know had this; she is a grade school teacher)

Flowers shaking in the wind => feels children in her life have

hardships

Flowers all around/over the cube => Feels overwhelmed by kids

Flowers separated from cube by the ladder => feels her friends/family

(do/will/might) interfere in her relationship with her children

Beautiful flowers (roses, poppy etc) => Finds children very beautiful

4. THE HORSE:

Represents her thoughts about her lover (or the lover she thinks she

wants or will have).

Strong, large horse => Wants a protective, strong man

Color of horse => Possibly the race of the lover she wants (the

teacher chick mentioned above has a "latin thing" - her horse was

brown)

Horse close to the cube => Wants the lover to be very close to her

emotionally and physically

Horse well separated from cube => Is reserved about opening up

completely to lovers

Horse licking/sniffing the cube => Imagines/wishes she's being doted

on

Small, submissive horse => Wants a lover she can dominate

Wild horse => wants a guy who is not tamed and will not be tamed

Tethered horse => Wants to keep him very restrained/restricted

Horse stomping on the cube => Has been or feels extremely abused by

lovers

Horse destroying the flowers => Feels the lover will not be good

towards her children (single moms probably have this thing more often)

Horse messing with the ladder => Conflict between her lover and her

friends

Horse far away or walking away => Feels abandoned

Horse separated from flowers by the cube => feels she will have to

take care of the children and manage her lover's relationship with

them

Weak horse => envisions being (stuck?) with a wimp

[example: one chick I know had a horse running around in a confined

arena. She is a controlling, limit-setting type chick who likes to

watch her man react to her experiments with his emotions/behavior.]

5. THE STORM:

Represents her ideas about troubles in life.

Storm in the distance => Troubles are not overwhelming her presently

Storm approaching => Fears crises in future

Storm receding => Has had troubles recently but feels they are over

Huge, dominant storm => Feels her life is in deep [cabbage]

Storm in the distance, passing away affecting none of the other four

things in the scenery => Feels her life is relatively trouble-free,

has few problems around in her life.

Small storm => Feels secure about problems she will face [/hide]

 

Honestly, that sounds like the biggest load of malarky I've ever heard. And I can't think of a single girl around here that would stick around long enough to hear you spit out such hoo-haa. Takes too much of an attention span. Plus, if someone else has already used this routine on her, you just look like a tool. I'm not going with the cube...there's gotta be something else.

If you get a bad reaction, even if she's heard it, you're doing it wrong. I've done it at least 100 times, some had heard it before but everyone enjoyed it.

 

Besides, it's been proved over and over that how to say things is much more important than what you actually say. I remember a while back mystery went out with a bunch of acclaimed puas. They used all their best routines and he recited his shopping list, and he got much better results.

 

A few years ago I saw a video of him tell a story of how he is a computer programmer and what he does, and he somehow made it fascinating.

Here's an original way to approach girls without being a tool:

 

Notice some accessory she's wearing... ALL girls have accessories (earrings, necklaces, bracelets, fancy shoes, etc.) and just ask her about them. Then find another accessory and ask about that. Then keep asking her about all the pieces of clothing/jewelry that she's wearing until you've covered everything down to her socks. At one point or another, she'll (hopefully) realize that you're just being silly by asking her stupid questions and this conveys that you have a sense of humor. Plus there's always the chance that there's a cool story behind something she's wearing which you can relate to and branch off into another conversation. This one girl I spoke to actually forged her own rings out of sterling silver, hah. You can also ask her about her bra and panties if you're feeling bold! :D Also if the girl's being stiff or confused the whole time, it's a good way of knowing that you've approached the wrong girl and she doesn't have a sense of humor, or she's stupid. Regardless, by the time you're asking her about her socks the ice should be broken. :thumbup:

 

Now go try an approach that actually sounds normal, rather than weird/creepy :thumbsup:

i actually kind of like that idea, muggi. Similiar to what i was originally going for, but taking it in a slightly different direction.

 

As for the cube? I'll try it just to see what I can do, but honestly I don't feel natural using it, which puts me at a disadvantage from the start. I feel like palm readings would be the way to go [hand to hand touching is a plus, while still giving the idea that you know them]

romy's method isn't too far off from what I was working on. I suppose there's no shame on revealing trade secrets on here, so I'll be as specific as possible. I've been working on situation ignitions from cold starts. One of my friends has gotten oddly good at it, but I've yet to get anything out of him other than encouragement to try. Anywho, my version looks something like this:

 

1) Look your best [and peacock]

2) find a clipboard, a marker, and two different tpyes of cologne bottles

3) apply one cologne to yourself

4) go to mall

5) ask groups of the female persuasion their opinion on the bottle of cologne you didn't use

6) pretend to care what they have to say about it's smell, and mark it on a tally sheet

7) ask if they prefer the way you smell (gets them in nice and close, plus smell is one of the largest erotic triggers)

8) gauge opinion, if poisitve, proceed to 9. if not, continue pretending to care about your survey and wish them fairwell

9) compliment them [prefereablly a neg to the 'target' girl, while simply being nice to any of her friends]

10) tell random interesting story, that may or may not reate to the clothing you are wearing, or they are wearing

11) smile, and look directly into 'target' 's eyes

12) realize that you've never exchanged names, and do so in a funny manner [possibly make a guessing game out of it?]

13) [needs number closer, possibly relating to "survey information"]

14) move on to new group as soon as possible

 

 

how was that? took some hard thinking, but I think it's getting there. I have another method in mind, but it would only work at cultural gatherings, like art festivals.

 

That seems pointlessly over-planned, and kills your spontaneity. Theoretically, it could work, but putting that much effort to it really is pointless and makes no sense.