How would you do that?

 

And I have no idea what women you meet, but most women I know/have met wouldn't give their number to a stranger easily, let alone make out with a stranger.

 

By starting a conversation and talking for a bit. If she agrees to help you go clothes shopping, the ice is already broken. There isn't any need to do it again by stepping down the 'ljbf path' and hitting on her after.

 

The whole point of that is starting the conversation for those who don't know how, without any "penalty". The whole helping find clothes part (which was just an example by the way), is so that you could hold a conversation with a stranger (many have a problem with that), and not suffer the "consequences" (of a conversation started the wrong way).

 

I've met all kinds of women, and most don't think much about giving away their number. At 1 point I would know a girl was into me, get her number, and then when I talked to her again she was far less interested. This happened a lot until I got a tip on solving that.

Well, you have to do something in order to get her number. What I gave, is possibly that something.

 

The make out with a stranger thing is really only girls at clubs, (or drunk girls) but it still really doesn't mean much. I've heard lots of stories from girls who have made out with a guy just because they felt bad and didn't want to push him away.

This specific method wouldn't work too well in clubs, mostly in malls, etc. and it gets everything that's needed, done with. You get to no longer be a stranger from her point of view, you get to easily break the ice, you get to find a common ground for both of you, and you get to do all this without much "risk" (even if you're ever turned don't, you aren't really "turned down" because the girl doesn't even know you're hitting on her).

If it gets the point across, I don't see what's wrong with this method. It's useful, it's quick, and eliminates some factors that could go against you.

[hide=The Cube Explained]The cube game is a cold reading technique. By asking a few questions you are able to give the impression you have a deep understanding of a girl. The cube game builds rapport.

 

I've run the Cube on several women, and it's never failed to amaze them. Usually it gives a good approximate idea of the person. Very efficient. Good fun too.

 

The Game

Prepare your victim (the girl) by building up the game. Ask her if she's sure she wants to do this, tell her she may find out things about herself that she doesn't want to know. You can then start to ask the questions; for her part she should give you as much detail as she can.

 

Imagine this simple picture with just three things in it: the sky, the horizon and the desert.

 

In this picture imagine a cube, where is it ? What is it made of ? How big is it ?

 

Now add a ladder, where is it ? What is it made of ? How big is it ? How many rungs are there ? Where is it in relation to the cube ?

 

Add some flowers to the picture, how many are there ? What kind ?, where are they in relation to the cube and the ladder ?

 

Add a horse to the picture, where is it ? What color is it ? What is it doing ? How many rungs, where is it in relation to everything else ?

 

There's a storm in the picture. Where is it ?, Which way is it proceeding ? What kind of storm ? How big is it ?

 

Interpreting the Results

 

The Cube - Is how the girl views herself.

 

The Color of the Cube -> http://www.pick-up-a...ube-vt1509.html [click]

 

The Ladder - Friends and family.

 

The Flowers - Children in her life.

 

The Horse - Her lover or ideal lover.

 

The Storm - Troubles in her life.

 

The questions should be asked in the correct order (Cube, Ladder, Flowers, Horse, Storm). Interpret the picture in that order after she has finished answering all the questions. You interpret the questions individually and their relationship with the other pieces of the picture.

 

The possible interpretations below are just examples, you may adjust these to fit in with what you already know about the girl. They are fairly vague and could almost apply to anyone.

 

The Cube - Herself

 

Small cube - feels small, ignored.

 

On the ground - well grounded.

 

In the sky - imaginative, un-realistic.

 

Far away - feels left behind.

 

Transparent - purity.

 

The Ladder - Friends

 

Many rungs - many friends.

 

Few rungs - few close friends.

 

Far away from cube - keeps her friends at arms length.

 

Ladder bigger than cube - feels small in her social circle.

 

Ladder against cube - keeps her friends close.

 

The Flowers - Children

 

Number of flowers - number of children she wants to have around.

 

Flowers far away - does not want children.

 

Flowers close to cube - Feels very close to the children she has or will have.

 

Beautiful flowers - finds children very beautiful.

 

The Horse - Lover

 

Strong, large horse - She likes protective strong men.

 

Horse far away - Ideal man far away.

 

Weak horse - Envisions being stuck with a weak man.

 

Horse with flowers - Ideal man loves children.

 

The Storm - Trouble

 

Storm in distance - troubles are far away.

 

Storm close - going through hard times now.

 

Small storm - no real troubles in life.

 

Here are a few examples of how to impress the girls just telling them true things and adding some cold reading (if you don't know what is call reading or you want to learn more send me a pm asking).

 

XFman: Okay girl lets play a game.

 

HB10: sure

 

Xfman: Okay close your eyes think you are in a desert (highway forest any place will work. )

Now you see a cube, How big is ? How tall ? Is it flying ? laying on the ground? How far is from your perspective?

 

HB: is really big and tall is flying, about 2mts from ground and is like 4mts away from me.

 

(Answer: how big or tall is the size of her ego, flying or in the ground is how she think , she has a lot of imagination or she think more logical. how far is the cube form her is how close or far she is with her inner self)

 

*Note: Check how Im going to add some extra details about the girl by using some cold reading lines.

 

Xfman: Wow, Lets see. Your cube is big and tall, that is the size of your ego, so you have a big ego but you see yourself as a nice person, you always try to be positive but sometimes you feel down when bad things happen, Then; your cube is flying that means you are a creative person you are a thinker, not always but you like to imagine , I bet that sometimes when you go out with a boy, you start thinking how the date is going to be, And i can forgot, I also bet that you have all ready thought how your wedding is going to be. Now you told me that your cube is far fro you that is because sometimes you feel away from your inner you, you have doubts about what to do, sometimes you might feel insecure.

 

She might be impressed or she might think that is just [cabbage] but who cares she will want you to tell her more about her.

 

That is just a variation of the cube I just made out , in this link you can have the basic and try to add more of your own just think logical on what the description can mean.

 

And just a quick plus: tell her to describe the outside part of the cube and the inside part of the cube (the texture , etc... ) The outside part is the way she acts, the person she tries to be or appear to others and the inside is the really way she is.

 

Most of the time they will say the outside is hard and the inside is soft and smooth so you can just say , you try to be hard , but in the inside you still have your feelings, or when you meet someone is hard to this new person to learn about this really you but once a person is inside and start learning about your real you , he don't want to leave. Good luck any question just send me a PM.

 

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But if you want to learn more of the cube routine read this:

 

Ask the questions in the proper order (Cube, ladder, flowers,

horse, storm - in that order); interpret the picture in the same

order, and only AFTER she has imagined the entire picture (all five

pieces mentioned above). Heck, you might even hold on to some of it to

ensure a followup encounter. ("I need to think more about some of the

features of your horse. Will let you know when I have an

interpretation that I feel makes sense."). Some here on ASF may

disagree with some of the interpretations, but that's okay; I think if

an interpretation makes sense to me, it is probably correct.

There are two components to the interpretation of each of the five

pieces: the piece in itself, and its relation to the other pieces as

well as the overall picture. The sizes and positions of various things

are RELATIVE to one another and to the overall scene of the desert.

Moreover, the interpretations are not according to some rigid law,

they are just ways to make sense out of the woman's imagined picture,

but that is the best part because as far as we are concerned here in

ASF, that flexibility allows us to interpret things in a way that

helps the seduction (a negative interpretation is a neg-hit! You can

include small negative inperpretations whenever necessary, while

generally giving a reasonably sensible interpretation overall).

1. THE CUBE:

Represents the woman's conception of herself. A huge cube covering

most of the scenery (Field of View or FOV) means she's got an inflated

ego, a sense of high self-importance. Other features of the cube could

mean:

Tiny cube => feels small, insignificant, ignored, modest

Cube resting on the ground => generally has a firm foothold on reality

Cube far away in the distance => Feels left behind by life

Cube flying in the air or levitated => daydreamer, imaginative but

unrealistic

Cube partly above the horizon line => ambitious

Cube below the horizon => not very ambitious

Cube resting on its edge => metastable life, perhaps?

Cube made of solid material => good sense of self-worth, well-grounded

personality

Cube made of gold => Thinks of herself as extremely precious

Cube made of glass or transparent cube => Considers herself pure

Cube full of slimy stuff => Hates herself completely

Cube hollow inside => feels hollow, unfulfilled in the extreme

[interesting example: one woman know very well imagined the Rubic's

cube, being twisted and turned by a child. I was not surprised because

she has a sever persecution complex and total paranoia, considers

everyone else stupid and childish (has a holier-than-thou mentality),

feels attacked by the world, and is an emotional basketcase]

2. THE LADDER:

Represents her close social support structure (friends; family in some

cases).

Long ladder with many rungs => big social circle, has many friends,

outgoing personality, sociable

Ladder made of some odd material => feels her friends are weird, very

different from normal people

Ladder with few rungs => has few close friends

Ladder in a less than good condition => believes people around her are

[bleep]ed up

Ladder far away from the cube => Does not let people get too close to

herself; keeps aloof, has a hard shell around herself

Ladder leaning against cube => Feels she does a lot of things for her

friends, supports them more than they support her, feels she has some

codependent people around her

Ladder on top of cube => Feels her friends/family are overbearing,

feels oppressed by them

Ladder much bigger than cube => feels small in her social circle

Ladder supporting cube (like, ladder under the cube) => feels her

close associates support her in her accomplishments

Strong ladder => is surrounded by strong people, feels secure in them

Burned up ladder => Feels surrounded by totally [bleep]ed up people who

are ruining themselves

3. THE FLOWERS:

Represent the place of children in her life.

Number of flowers => children she has or wants to have, or has/wants

to have around (See * below)

Flowers close to cube => Feels very close to the children she has or

will have

Flowers far away => Does not want children

Flowers blooming well => Feels positive about her children's lives

Flowers messed up => is surrounded by screwed up children

* Lots of flowers everywhere => Probably works with children, or would

like to; (One chick I know had this; she is a grade school teacher)

Flowers shaking in the wind => feels children in her life have

hardships

Flowers all around/over the cube => Feels overwhelmed by kids

Flowers separated from cube by the ladder => feels her friends/family

(do/will/might) interfere in her relationship with her children

Beautiful flowers (roses, poppy etc) => Finds children very beautiful

4. THE HORSE:

Represents her thoughts about her lover (or the lover she thinks she

wants or will have).

Strong, large horse => Wants a protective, strong man

Color of horse => Possibly the race of the lover she wants (the

teacher chick mentioned above has a "latin thing" - her horse was

brown)

Horse close to the cube => Wants the lover to be very close to her

emotionally and physically

Horse well separated from cube => Is reserved about opening up

completely to lovers

Horse licking/sniffing the cube => Imagines/wishes she's being doted

on

Small, submissive horse => Wants a lover she can dominate

Wild horse => wants a guy who is not tamed and will not be tamed

Tethered horse => Wants to keep him very restrained/restricted

Horse stomping on the cube => Has been or feels extremely abused by

lovers

Horse destroying the flowers => Feels the lover will not be good

towards her children (single moms probably have this thing more often)

Horse messing with the ladder => Conflict between her lover and her

friends

Horse far away or walking away => Feels abandoned

Horse separated from flowers by the cube => feels she will have to

take care of the children and manage her lover's relationship with

them

Weak horse => envisions being (stuck?) with a wimp

[example: one chick I know had a horse running around in a confined

arena. She is a controlling, limit-setting type chick who likes to

watch her man react to her experiments with his emotions/behavior.]

5. THE STORM:

Represents her ideas about troubles in life.

Storm in the distance => Troubles are not overwhelming her presently

Storm approaching => Fears crises in future

Storm receding => Has had troubles recently but feels they are over

Huge, dominant storm => Feels her life is in deep [cabbage]

Storm in the distance, passing away affecting none of the other four

things in the scenery => Feels her life is relatively trouble-free,

has few problems around in her life.

Small storm => Feels secure about problems she will face [/hide]

 

Honestly, that sounds like the biggest load of malarky I've ever heard. And I can't think of a single girl around here that would stick around long enough to hear you spit out such hoo-haa. Takes too much of an attention span. Plus, if someone else has already used this routine on her, you just look like a tool. I'm not going with the cube...there's gotta be something else.

 

The cube thing really does seem pointlessly long and not very effective.

Yeah, the cube thing is really convoluted. It gives me a headache more than anything else.

I'm trying to envision myself using the cube...Nah. I can imagine a girl getting really confused and thinking "wtf", so just making up stuff about the postion of the cube and what-not. Then your interpretation is meaningless.

 

A cool game to play with a girl that you've maybe talked to before is the "who would you rather do" game.

 

You kind of need to play it in a public place, where people are sitting, like a classrooom, lecture, or cafe or something. You draw a map of the room/class etc and the seating arrangements, and draw little dots to represent guys and girls (Say red dots for girls, and blue dots for boys). Then you point to two of the dots, generally it's gonna be the opposite sex and ask who they'd rather do. Then he/he takes their turn and points at to two of the dots and asks who you'd rather do. After they make their choice, you can ask them why they made their decision etc. As you get furhter into the game, you can start to develop an idea of the kind of people and things they're attracted to. You can also test to see how attractive they find you, by pointing to the dot that represents yourself, and then anohter person who she has previously favoured over others.

 

Oh yeah and the reason for the dots is so you can play discretely without having to point at people all the time.

 

It's kind of hard to explain, but I think it works quite well. I played it with a girl I sat next to in my Spanish class. In the end, I pointed to the guy she had kept chosing over all the others, and then to the dot that represented me, and she said "Of course, I'd pick you over him any time".

 

I guess a big weakness is you can only play it or a modified version in some settings, but when you can it works great :thumbup:

When I was still in High School I met this girl, Rachel, in a hospital. I was very bored and I wanted to kill time by playing cards. So I had another friend teach me this cool game she called " Castle ". I thought Rachel the game and she loved it. I think it was because the way it worked prevented me from letting myself lose to her just to look cool or what not. We went out several times and most of them we played cards at some point. She would have fun stacking the cards in order and then keeping the deck as a relationship token. She went on to be the most serious relationship I have ever had.

 

I guess the point of my story is that you don't need to be all fancy and stuff about what you do/play with your special someone. One factor of my example was that she was not from the same town I was so we only met on weekends. If you date a girl/guy you see almost everyday then you will have to be more fancy to keep things interesting.

Today I was talk to a female friend of mine and I mentioned it's my birthday, she said "Oh yeah, you're 18 now. When I'm 18 you have to take me clubbing, I want to be able to call you and say 'Ryan, we're going clubbing.' " This is good, I'll have a girl with me when I'm clubbing (looks good to other girls.) She's also a pretty awesome person.

Today I was talk to a female friend of mine and I mentioned it's my birthday, she said "Oh yeah, you're 18 now. When I'm 18 you have to take me clubbing, I want to be able to call you and say 'Ryan, we're going clubbing.' " This is good, I'll have a girl with me when I'm clubbing (looks good to other girls.) She's also a pretty awesome person.

 

This has happened to me. A friend of mine who is much older ( in her late 20's) always wanted to go out with me to clubs and other adult activities but I couldn't until I turned 18. Now, she always likes to get with me when I am home and hang out because we have much more in common.

...I think I'm going to have to toy with my fashion a bit. it's been a while since I updated my clothing

Post pics, we'll make ourselves useful.

...I think I'm going to have to toy with my fashion a bit. it's been a while since I updated my clothing

Post pics, we'll make ourselves useful.

 

 

yes sir :salute:

 

In other news, step 2 has been completed. I walked into a country club wearing a suit, and I got hired on the spot. I was in the middle of filling out an application, and the manager guy walks up, shakes my hand and told me to come in tomorow morning for training. Sweet deal.

 

And for this new job, I had to buy some new clothes for work atire. Went to the clothing store 'round the corner, and saw this mega-hottie working the register. Y'know how when you see someone you like, things kind of slow down and that stereotypical angelic crap starts going on in the background? yeah. And it was suddenly broken by her asking me "can I have your number". I stumbled a bit, but gave it to her. I wish it was as pimp as it sounds, she only needed it for credit card information. But I'm gonna try going back there soon, a little more prepared and give a nice "only if I can have yours" as a retort. See how that works out. She's the first girl to get my attention like that in a VERY long time. Exciting. :D

I wouldn't try this one. It could easily not work...

Here's an original way to approach girls without being a tool:

 

Notice some accessory she's wearing... ALL girls have accessories (earrings, necklaces, bracelets, fancy shoes, etc.) and just ask her about them. Then find another accessory and ask about that. Then keep asking her about all the pieces of clothing/jewelry that she's wearing until you've covered everything down to her socks. At one point or another, she'll (hopefully) realize that you're just being silly by asking her stupid questions and this conveys that you have a sense of humor. Plus there's always the chance that there's a cool story behind something she's wearing which you can relate to and branch off into another conversation. This one girl I spoke to actually forged her own rings out of sterling silver, hah. You can also ask her about her bra and panties if you're feeling bold! :D Also if the girl's being stiff or confused the whole time, it's a good way of knowing that you've approached the wrong girl and she doesn't have a sense of humor, or she's stupid. Regardless, by the time you're asking her about her socks the ice should be broken. :thumbup:

 

Now go try an approach that actually sounds normal, rather than weird/creepy :thumbsup:

 

At least in the area I live in, it's not original and it does make you look like a tool. Ask a girl about an accessory and she thinks 1 'this guy is obviously into me, he doesn't know me so it's only based on my looks. what a creep.' and 2 'when is he going to leave?' I tried it a lot years ago, and it really only seemed to work on drunk girls.

 

The whole point of that is starting the conversation for those who don't know how, without any "penalty". The whole helping find clothes part (which was just an example by the way), is so that you could hold a conversation with a stranger (many have a problem with that), and not suffer the "consequences" (of a conversation started the wrong way).

I know, but once you've started a conversation, the ice doesn't need to be broken because it already has.

 

I'm just saying the extra unnecessary rapport building before she is attracted can hurt you.

 

The cube is nowhere near as long and complex as it looks. All you need to know is that she pictures a cube and it's basic details, (colour, angle, is it off the ground etc etc) flowers, (how many, type, colour, size etc etc) horse, ladder and a storm. Then just [cabbage] your way through interpretations, slightly based on what you know about her already. Those pages and pages of interpretations aren't needed. A couple months ago everyone here was clueless about girls, while knocking back me and lents ideas, then they started using them and apparently started becoming more successful. You still aren't experts yet (neither am I) so you should always be open to suggestions like you were not long ago. Don't knock it until you've tried it a few times.

 

The interpretation is meaningless, but so is all cold reading. Even the first time I did it (I did it to 5-6 people at once) and they all said it was really accurate.

The whole point of that is starting the conversation for those who don't know how, without any "penalty". The whole helping find clothes part (which was just an example by the way), is so that you could hold a conversation with a stranger (many have a problem with that), and not suffer the "consequences" (of a conversation started the wrong way).

I know, but once you've started a conversation, the ice doesn't need to be broken because it already has.

Not necessarily.

 

I'm just saying the extra unnecessary rapport building before she is attracted can hurt you.

Remember it's only 1 story, rapport is a bit too big of a word here. you simply tell her a story, she tells you one back, and from here, everything is easier. I highly doubt that story would ever hurt you.

I wouldn't try this one. It could easily not work...

 

 

no skin off my nose if it doesn't. Girls like that reject guys like 5 times a day. I got nothing to lose, I wouldn't care if I were number 6. And what if it works? Then what? Then I look like the friggin' man. That's what. Still want to build myself a bit before I try anything though. Get my situation a bit more stable emotionally and financially. Hell, even physically i could use some work. I can't remember the last time I picked up my weight set. Let's get to work, boys :)

I wouldn't try this one. It could easily not work...

 

 

no skin off my nose if it doesn't. Girls like that reject guys like 5 times a day. I got nothing to lose, I wouldn't care if I were number 6. And what if it works? Then what? Then I look like the friggin' man. That's what. Still want to build myself a bit before I try anything though. Get my situation a bit more stable emotionally and financially. Hell, even physically i could use some work. I can't remember the last time I picked up my weight set. Let's get to work, boys :)

 

You really shouldn't try to hit on girls with that attitude. Be confident, trust your abilities.

 

And if you're already going to try and hit on her, better try something with higher success rates, not something that could work and could easily not.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I just totally figured out why you keep coming to that torturing girl. You're afraid you wouldn't find something better, and tell yourself that you already have that here and there's no reason to go look outside, and then back it up with execuses like "The sex is good, so why not?"

Ofcourse I could easily just be wrong, but it seems reasonable ATM.

I have the first actual date I've had in a few weeks tonight. Woooo. She's a cool girl. We're going to our friends' choir concert, and I have a couple ideas for afterwards, depending on what the weather and such is like.

Hey everyone, my friend told me about this site and I figured I'd give it a shot. It wouldn't hurt.

 

So

[hide] There's this girl whom I met way back at the start of college. We both roomed at the same dorm on the same floor .We both signed up for the pre-move in stuff so it was like 15 of us for a few days. I immediately found her to be amazing. We got put at the same dinner table, and we started talking. She sang, played piano, and guitar. I'm not a ladies man so I wasn't able to wow her or anything. Fast forward a few weeks. Me and my roommate, who knows I like her, get her to go to lunch with us. There, her humor was very similar to mine, and I felt it was successful progress. Now, she was never around when I was fall and winter quarter; shes music and im architecture. And when I did catch her, she had either gotten dinner or was going with someone else. No major progress for months. But a few weeks ago, I was going on for an evening run, and i saw her coming back from an activity out on the fields. Turns out she was doing a bible evening fun night or something. So we talk about things, and just before she left, she notices she lost her key. For the rest of the night me her and her bible friends search for the key on the field with no luck, but i manage to get a bunch of flashlight and stuff for her, trying to be a nice guy. As the night went on, all 6 of us got food and then we walked around and everyone went home. Eventually it was me and her walking. I tried to hint at us doing stuff, but she's always wanting to get the 'group" together or get everyone in. It seems that shes not getting that I like her.[/hide]

 

Anyways, shes a super religious girl, who is scatterbrained at times and forgetful, but shes sincere. How can i get her to be willing to do things with me without always trying to get a group of people together? She's living in the same dorm as me next year so there time if necessary.

I wouldn't try this one. It could easily not work...

 

 

no skin off my nose if it doesn't. Girls like that reject guys like 5 times a day. I got nothing to lose, I wouldn't care if I were number 6. And what if it works? Then what? Then I look like the friggin' man. That's what. Still want to build myself a bit before I try anything though. Get my situation a bit more stable emotionally and financially. Hell, even physically i could use some work. I can't remember the last time I picked up my weight set. Let's get to work, boys

 

You really shouldn't try to hit on girls with that attitude. Be confident, trust your abilities.

 

And if you're already going to try and hit on her, better try something with higher success rates, not something that could work and could easily not.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I just totally figured out why you keep coming to that torturing girl. You're afraid you wouldn't find something better, and tell yourself that you already have that here and there's no reason to go look outside, and then back it up with execuses like "The sex is good, so why not?"

Ofcourse I could easily just be wrong, but it seems reasonable ATM.

 

 

nah, you're not too far off. It's been ingrained in my head that you shouldn't give up on good chemistry. So, I've often found my justification for fighting for her in "no one could possibly have this sort of connection with me, she loves me, i love her, and I will never feel like this about anyone else, and I know she feels the same". Sex is great, yeah. but that comes from that special very strange bond we share. it's like nothing else. And if you can't take my word for it, even if she has cheated on me...14 or 15 times now, she still comes back to me, sayng that I was the best and strongest connection she'd ever had. now I know you guys'll say "you can't trust her in that statement" but honestly...you don't know her like I do. She means it. Why does she continue to cheat anyway? Well I don't know. But in our latest fight, she told me that I was in love with the girl I met 4 years ago, not the girl she is today. Considering, the girl she is today has slept with other guys, cheated on me constantly and predictably, has mental breakdowns, and is sometimes downright scary....maybe it is time for me to just let go. I still have strong feelings for her, but she's found a new guy, so it's time i grew and changed some on my own. I promise with god as my witness, I will never have a relationship with anyone, like I did with her.

I guess I can simplify it from an outsider point-of-view: You're basically in it for the sex and very little outside of it almost? Maybe?

 

Everything's cyclical I suppose.

@Rpg- you're doing the right thing. And even though you knew we'd tell you this, I can tell you she could easily just be lying. She's playing with you. I'm sorry I have to put it this harsh, but you're just a toy, a sadistic amusement to her, and it's time you moved on.

 

Oh, and never say never. You could have better relations with other women, even if at the moment it doesn't seem possible.

There's this girl whom I met way back at the start of college. We both roomed at the same dorm on the same floor .We both signed up for the pre-move in stuff so it was like 15 of us for a few days. I immediately found her to be amazing. We got put at the same dinner table, and we started talking. She sang, played piano, and guitar. I'm not a ladies man so I wasn't able to wow her or anything. Fast forward a few weeks. Me and my roommate, who knows I like her, get her to go to lunch with us. There, her humor was very similar to mine, and I felt it was successful progress. Now, she was never around when I was fall and winter quarter; shes music and im architecture. And when I did catch her, she had either gotten dinner or was going with someone else. No major progress for months. But a few weeks ago, I was going on for an evening run, and i saw her coming back from an activity out on the fields. Turns out she was doing a bible evening fun night or something. So we talk about things, and just before she left, she notices she lost her key. For the rest of the night me her and her bible friends search for the key on the field with no luck, but i manage to get a bunch of flashlight and stuff for her, trying to be a nice guy. As the night went on, all 6 of us got food and then we walked around and everyone went home. Eventually it was me and her walking. I tried to hint at us doing stuff, but she's always wanting to get the 'group" together or get everyone in. It seems that shes not getting that I like her.

 

Anyways, shes a super religious girl, who is scatterbrained at times and forgetful, but shes sincere. How can i get her to be willing to do things with me without always trying to get a group of people together? She's living in the same dorm as me next year so there time if necessary.

 

It sounds like she knows you're into her (girls are pretty damn intuitive) but she's just not into you. That bit about trying to be a nice guy could have something to do with it.

 

If you read through my blog I wrote a great way to ask a girl out.

 

 

 

Remember it's only 1 story, rapport is a bit too big of a word here. you simply tell her a story, she tells you one back, and from here, everything is easier. I highly doubt that story would ever hurt you.

 

As I said, guys think differently so it's easy to get a different idea from your original post.

 

It can hurt you in some situations, but really only with girls who get hit on constantly. The type of girls who will neg a guy a few times in a row and 'test' him constantly.

Remember it's only 1 story, rapport is a bit too big of a word here. you simply tell her a story, she tells you one back, and from here, everything is easier. I highly doubt that story would ever hurt you.

 

As I said, guys think differently so it's easy to get a different idea from your original post.

 

It can hurt you in some situations, but really only with girls who get hit on constantly. The type of girls who will neg a guy a few times in a row and 'test' him constantly.

 

I'm certain it shouldn't hurt you, even on girls who get hit on constantly. But just to make sure, I'll tell my brother to test this one 50-some more times and post the results once he's done. I'll tell him to make atleast 30 of these tries not his, and all 50 to be on "very hot girls".

It really takes a lot more than that. I mean I was doing 10-20 approaches a night, 2 nights a week for about a year before I started getting confident in my honed ideas about attraction, and that was when I found the pua community and confirmed it all. Lent and the guys here have it easy, they had/ve someone to tell them what works instead of having to figure it out from scratch.

 

The truth is, girls that get hit on constantly will dismiss a guy within the first 2 seconds. If he 'passes' then she continues to throw negs and [cabbage] tests at him for a while.

 

When I give advice it's on what I think is 'solid game.' What works, no more and no less. With the girls that get hit on constantly, there is much less 'room for error.' While it might not earn you an instant bunt '[bleep] off' like a lot of mistakes do, it can be the difference sometimes.

That's exactly what this method is for, so that the girls wouldn't dismiss you easily.

 

This method was developed and based entirely on certain principles that have been checked countlessly to attract girls, and even so, was tried individually almost 70 times, just to make sure.

 

It works as a build up, and tries to eliminate certain factors. It works, and with good reason- I really have no idea why you're so quick to judge it and dismiss it.

There's this girl whom I met way back at the start of college. We both roomed at the same dorm on the same floor .We both signed up for the pre-move in stuff so it was like 15 of us for a few days. I immediately found her to be amazing. We got put at the same dinner table, and we started talking. She sang, played piano, and guitar. I'm not a ladies man so I wasn't able to wow her or anything. Fast forward a few weeks. Me and my roommate, who knows I like her, get her to go to lunch with us. There, her humor was very similar to mine, and I felt it was successful progress. Now, she was never around when I was fall and winter quarter; shes music and im architecture. And when I did catch her, she had either gotten dinner or was going with someone else. No major progress for months. But a few weeks ago, I was going on for an evening run, and i saw her coming back from an activity out on the fields. Turns out she was doing a bible evening fun night or something. So we talk about things, and just before she left, she notices she lost her key. For the rest of the night me her and her bible friends search for the key on the field with no luck, but i manage to get a bunch of flashlight and stuff for her, trying to be a nice guy. As the night went on, all 6 of us got food and then we walked around and everyone went home. Eventually it was me and her walking. I tried to hint at us doing stuff, but she's always wanting to get the 'group" together or get everyone in. It seems that shes not getting that I like her.

 

Anyways, shes a super religious girl, who is scatterbrained at times and forgetful, but shes sincere. How can i get her to be willing to do things with me without always trying to get a group of people together? She's living in the same dorm as me next year so there time if necessary.

 

It sounds like she knows you're into her (girls are pretty damn intuitive) but she's just not into you. That bit about trying to be a nice guy could have something to do with it.

 

If you read through my blog I wrote a great way to ask a girl out.

 

 

I read through your blog (great info btw). I don't think she's not into me (yet), shes a really pure girl. No bars, no parties, none of the usual college stuff. I'm trying to find a way to get her to break away from the 'let all do friend stuff together' mentality. She is the kind of girl that wants everyone to feel included so I don''t think shes trying to push me away.

Speaking from a religious background, she probably doesn't feel comfortable spending time alone with you. She'd much rather play it safe and hang out with you only in group, so as not to put herself in any "situations." I suggest you spend time with her in groups and build her trust that way. If she's religiously conscious, and avoids the party scene, Dan's techniques will not work. If you want them to work, I suggest you find another girl.

 

Also, from the way you describe her, I doubt she's looking for anyone who doesn't hold similar commitments to her faith as she does. Depending on how much you do the "usual college stuff," you're probably completely off her radar as dateable.