Teachers Carrying Guns

[Kenshinjapan]

What good is a taser when you're staring down the barrel of a gun from 20 feet away? Sure a taser could do some good, but it wouldn't stand a chance against a kid with a gun.

[Range_This11]

Well at my school, the policy was that of all teachers are to lock doors from the inside and they are the only ones that are allowed to open it to let students in. It works relatively well. I think we have too many doomsayers here that always assume that there is a incessant need of a gun in all situations for everything to be safe. Nothing more safe than a killing machine!

[Powman3]

No.

 

 

 

I have met and seen so many teachers that would use that to their advantage, to intimidate kids to have them do things. I have seen crazy people.

 

 

 

So, no. I don't think so.

[Kenshinjapan]

Powman, I don't want to get in to the teacher responsibility argument again (check back a few pages), but if a teacher is that crazy, I doubt they would allow her to have a gun :? .

 

 

 

Btw, I feel really sorry for you since you go to such a messed up school :-# .

[Powman3]

Powman, I don't want to get in to the teacher responsibility argument again (check back a few pages), but if a teacher is that crazy, I doubt they would allow her to have a gun :? .

 

 

 

Btw, I feel really sorry for you since you go to such a messed up school :-# .

 

 

 

It wasn't just the teachers at my school. I just meant the teacher's I've met that were like that. Some of the teachers at my old school were great (mainly just the ones I had).

 

 

 

I won't lie though. The office staff was horrible, the old librarian was a [bleep] to my sister, and it was an all-around stupid school.

 

 

 

EDIT: Were you talking to me or somebody else? :oops:

[jackattack]

This is one of those things where liberals get all outraged and say that it's going to be a massacre of small children when in reality probably very few teachers will even take advantage of it and they will eventually forget about it.

 

I'm not a liberal and I very strongly disagree with it.

 

 

 

Great job on the generalizations once again, though. Your powers of ignorance continue to amaze me.

 

 

 

I didn't say only liberals would disagree with it. :roll:

 

 

 

This is the same thing as what happened in states with right to carry laws but a little different. People actually used right to carry laws whereas only maybe a handful of teachers will utilize this. When they were debating right to carry laws in many states all the brady people where saying it was going to be the wild west with people gunning each other down in the streets over traffic accidents. Once the laws passed and that never happened they eventually forgot about it.

[Kenshinjapan]

Powman, I don't want to get in to the teacher responsibility argument again (check back a few pages), but if a teacher is that crazy, I doubt they would allow her to have a gun :? .

 

 

 

Btw, I feel really sorry for you since you go to such a messed up school :-# .

 

 

 

It wasn't just the teachers at my school. I just meant the teacher's I've met that were like that. Some of the teachers at my old school were great (mainly just the ones I had).

 

 

 

I won't lie though. The office staff was horrible, the old librarian was a [bleep] to my sister, and it was an all-around stupid school.

 

 

 

EDIT: Were you talking to me or somebody else? :oops:

 

 

 

I was talking to you.

[Powman3]

Thank you for pointing that out, mate. I was confused for a second.

[Range_This11]

 

I didn't say only liberals would disagree with it. :roll:

 

 

 

This is the same thing as what happened in states with right to carry laws but a little different. People actually used right to carry laws whereas only maybe a handful of teachers will utilize this. When they were debating right to carry laws in many states all the brady people where saying it was going to be the wild west with people gunning each other down in the streets over traffic accidents. Once the laws passed and that never happened they eventually forgot about it.

 

You're implying that anyone who is outraged by this is a liberal. You can play the word games all day, but you're still going to be as see-through as cellophane.

 

 

 

Besides, if so few are taking advantage of it, why even implement it in the first place?

[Kenshinjapan]

 

I didn't say only liberals would disagree with it. :roll:

 

 

 

This is the same thing as what happened in states with right to carry laws but a little different. People actually used right to carry laws whereas only maybe a handful of teachers will utilize this. When they were debating right to carry laws in many states all the brady people where saying it was going to be the wild west with people gunning each other down in the streets over traffic accidents. Once the laws passed and that never happened they eventually forgot about it.

 

You're implying that anyone who is outraged by this is a liberal. You can play the word games all day, but you're still going to be as see-through as cellophane.

 

 

 

Besides, if so few are taking advantage of it, why even implement it in the first place?

 

 

 

If even one life is saved, than it is worth it to me.

[jackattack]

 

I didn't say only liberals would disagree with it. :roll:

 

 

 

This is the same thing as what happened in states with right to carry laws but a little different. People actually used right to carry laws whereas only maybe a handful of teachers will utilize this. When they were debating right to carry laws in many states all the brady people where saying it was going to be the wild west with people gunning each other down in the streets over traffic accidents. Once the laws passed and that never happened they eventually forgot about it.

 

You're implying that anyone who is outraged by this is a liberal. You can play the word games all day, but you're still going to be as see-through as cellophane.

 

 

 

Besides, if so few are taking advantage of it, why even implement it in the first place?

 

 

 

 

 

Not really. And saying that if they aren't using it it shouldn't be allowed is like saying that if a policeman has never fired his gun it should be taken away. It's the same story as the whole aclu librarian fiasco.

[Range_This11]

 

Not really. And saying that if they aren't using it it shouldn't be allowed is like saying that if a policeman has never fired his gun it should be taken away. It's the same story as the whole aclu librarian fiasco.

 

A policeman is expected to know how to use a gun and use it on a daily basis. Teachers are supposed to educate students in subjects and ready them to become functioning adults. I think I'm confused here...

 

 

 

Just face it, there is no way that teachers being able to carry a concealed firearm in the classroom will ever happen.

[Lenticular_J]

Just face it, there is no way that teachers being able to carry a concealed firearm in the classroom will ever happen.

 

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iEhb ... AD92J09700

 

 

 

Sorry, I wanted to be a smartass. :lol:

 

 

 

I don't like when people refer to anything as a killing machine. It's the person behind a machine, machines have no intent to do anything but be a machine.

[Range_This11]

 

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iEhb ... AD92J09700

 

 

 

Sorry, I wanted to be a smartass. :lol:

 

 

 

I don't like when people refer to anything as a killing machine. It's the person behind a machine, machines have no intent to do anything but be a machine.

 

Yeah on a national level, I doubt it will happen.

 

 

 

That's like saying the A-Bomb wasn't a killing machine, just the pilot that dropped it, right?

[venomai]

If even one life is saved, than it is worth it to me.

 

At what cost? Placing a gun in the hand of every teacher will greatly increase the availability of guns and, in turn, the number of school shootings that occur every year.

 

 

 

It's pretty simple. The more abundant firearms become in America, the more readily available these firearms are to criminals, angry spouses, disgruntled students, etc.

 

 

 

It would be foolish to think that introducing more firearms will solve the problem. :|

[baalboy5]

Teachers having guns are wrong, now what would happen if a student steals the gun?.

 

I say let em have the gun but only the gun in school grounds with no ammo. The ammo have be in a secure locations that can only be opened by the principle.

 

I don't want a student stealing a loaded gun.

[RichieMcD]

Just face it, there is no way that teachers being able to carry a concealed firearm in the classroom will ever happen.

 

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iEhb ... AD92J09700

 

 

 

Sorry, I wanted to be a smartass. :lol:

 

 

 

I don't like when people refer to anything as a killing machine. It's the person behind a machine, machines have no intent to do anything but be a machine.

 

 

 

Guns were created with solely one purpose, to take away life from whatever it shot at. Leave the whole "hunting" rifles [cabbage] out, Guns were originally created for one sole purpose, to make killing humans more efficient.

[Ginger_Warrior]

This is one of those things where liberals get all outraged and say that it's going to be a massacre of small children when in reality probably very few teachers will even take advantage of it and they will eventually forget about it.

 

I think you must be confused on the actual definition on liberal. In the context of this debate, you are the liberal, since you support the individual liberty to carry a gun; I'm the one saying guns should be outlawed, thus I'm the authoritarian.

 

 

 

Your generalisations have gone beyond ignorant - they've actually become quite amusing.

[mmmcannibalism]

This is one of those things where liberals get all outraged and say that it's going to be a massacre of small children when in reality probably very few teachers will even take advantage of it and they will eventually forget about it.

 

I think you must be confused on the actual definition on liberal. In the context of this debate, you are the liberal, since you support the individual liberty to carry a gun; I'm the one saying guns should be outlawed, thus I'm the authoritarian.

 

 

 

Your generalisations have gone beyond ignorant - they've actually become quite amusing.

 

 

 

hes thinking of the American definition of liberal which has come to mean anyone in the democratic party.

 

 

 

whoever said teachers should have unloaded guns with the ammo locked in a safe is very mistaken. I dont even agree with putting guns in schools, I wouldnt fight the law if it was passed should be a by school district thing though. What is the purpose of giving the teacher a gun if it wont be useable in any situation? Do you think the school shooter will walk in and say okay everybody go load up ill give you 5 minutes?

 

 

 

and yes guns were designed to inflict harm more efficiently, or of course to act as a hole puncher at long distances :lol: . But honestly does it not seem at least reasonable that some people would want a "killing machine" in case someone trys to use a "killing machine" on them? I mean sure the police SHOULD be able to prevent anything but if im walking down the street and someone 10 feet away pulls out a gun im going to stand a better chance pulling out a gun to be equal then grabbing a cell phone and hoping the cops are really fast.

 

 

 

gun bans will not work UNLESS there are few or no guns in the area to start with. No matter what you do criminal organizations will find guns but if you have an area clean of guns to start with a ban will limit the flow to individuals that want to commit crimes.

[Kenshinjapan]

If even one life is saved, than it is worth it to me.

 

At what cost? Placing a gun in the hand of every teacher will greatly increase the availability of guns and, in turn, the number of school shootings that occur every year.

 

 

 

It's pretty simple. The more abundant firearms become in America, the more readily available these firearms are to criminals, angry spouses, disgruntled students, etc.

 

 

 

It would be foolish to think that introducing more firearms will solve the problem. :|

 

 

 

Did you even read the thread? Guns aren't going to be passed out at the front door of the school, teachers would have the option to train and get a licensed gun to carry for protection. I don't know where you got the idea that these guns are being handed out to criminals.

[BlueLancer]

I don't know where you got the idea that these guns are being handed out to criminals.

 

 

 

Sorry but that's a very naive way of thinking. How do you think inland gangsters who aren't even near harbors/ports even in the USA can get access to full automatic weapons or gun brands only used by the police? Use your imagination. (Hint: Low paid employees, corrupt army storage workers)

 

 

 

The more guns you pump in any place, the bigger the flow will be to criminals as well. Give 1,000 guns to teachers. A steady 10-50 will "disappear" every year due to dishonest or fired teachers.

[Barihawk]

I love how all this amusing and really farcical debate has happened in this thread when none of the teachers in this district in this option program have even joined it.

[Lenticular_J]

Just face it, there is no way that teachers being able to carry a concealed firearm in the classroom will ever happen.

 

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iEhb ... AD92J09700

 

 

 

Sorry, I wanted to be a smartass. :lol:

 

 

 

I don't like when people refer to anything as a killing machine. It's the person behind a machine, machines have no intent to do anything but be a machine.

 

 

 

Guns were created with solely one purpose, to take away life from whatever it shot at. Leave the whole "hunting" rifles [cabbage] out, Guns were originally created for one sole purpose, to make killing humans more efficient.

 

Okay, set a gun down in front of you. Nothing's happening? GASP! It's a piece of metal. It doesn't have feelings or intent.

 

 

 

Teachers having guns are wrong, now what would happen if a student steals the gun?.

 

I say let em have the gun but only the gun in school grounds with no ammo. The ammo have be in a secure locations that can only be opened by the principle.

 

I don't want a student stealing a loaded gun.

 

Do you know the definition of a concealed weapon?

 

 

 

At what cost? Placing a gun in the hand of every teacher will greatly increase the availability of guns and, in turn, the number of school shootings that occur every year.

 

 

 

It's pretty simple. The more abundant firearms become in America, the more readily available these firearms are to criminals, angry spouses, disgruntled students, etc.

 

 

 

It would be foolish to think that introducing more firearms will solve the problem. :|

 

Well, it isn't every teacher. In the county that's doing it, not even one has signed up for it. And I doubt very many would sign up for it per school if it was a nationwide optional policy.

[jackattack]

This is one of those things where liberals get all outraged and say that it's going to be a massacre of small children when in reality probably very few teachers will even take advantage of it and they will eventually forget about it.

 

I think you must be confused on the actual definition on liberal. In the context of this debate, you are the liberal, since you support the individual liberty to carry a gun; I'm the one saying guns should be outlawed, thus I'm the authoritarian.

 

 

 

Your generalisations have gone beyond ignorant - they've actually become quite amusing.

 

 

 

Neato. I meant overall.

 

 

 

I love how all this amusing and really farcical debate has happened in this thread when none of the teachers in this district in this option program have even joined it.

 

 

 

Its the same story as right to carry laws. They get themselves all worked up in to a frenzy and something that doesn't really matter turns into something where teachers will start going nuts and executing students for speaking without raising their hands. In a few weeks when nothing happens they will forget about it.

[Range_This11]

 

Its the same story as right to carry laws. They get themselves all worked up in to a frenzy and something that doesn't really matter turns into something where teachers will start going nuts and executing students for speaking without raising their hands. In a few weeks when nothing happens they will forget about it.

 

When it's in the news and people are discussion putting guns in a classroom of course we're going to get pissed off. And when it all goes away because it's a STUPID idea, then we'll shut up. We don't forget about it. Just because a certain topic isn't at hand doesn't mean we're not thinking about it.