Gold Famer's Return?

[CookMePlox]

 

 

 

Players can bring rune armors no? So if they bring noted or tons in single form: the killer will get alot stuff still..

 

 

 

Read the Bounty Hunter rules.

 

 

 

You can only take one piece of armour for each part of your body at each point of the combat triangle. For example, you could take in Verac's brassard (melee torso armour), a black dragonhide body (Ranged torso armour) and a splitbark body (Magic torso armour), but no more torso armour.

 

 

 

You can bring in a maximum of 4 wieldable weapons, and up to 1,000 of each type of stackable ammunition (runes, arrows, bolts, etc.). If you need to restock your ammunition, it is a quick trip to the banker north of Mandrith.

 

 

 

You must be able to wield or wear any combat item in your inventory.

 

 

 

You cannot take in any items that are unrelated to combat, so you're fine to take food, potions, etc. in, but cannot bring logs, spades and so on.

 

 

 

You cannot bring any coins into the Bounty Hunter crater.

 

 

 

After doing some research, I did some calculations...

 

Sara Helm

 

Sara Body

 

Sara Legs

 

Sara Kite

 

Green D'Hide Coif 0

 

Green D'Hide (G) Body

 

Green D'Hide (G) Chaps

 

Wiz G Hat

 

Wiz G Robe

 

Wiz G Skirt

 

Rune 2h

 

Rune B'Axe

 

Rune Warhammer

 

Rune Pickaxe

 

1000 Death

 

1000 Chaos

 

1000 Nature

 

1000 Cosmic

 

1000 Addy Arrows

 

1000 Mithril Arrows

 

Wiz Ammy (T)

 

Str Ammy (T)

 

 

 

Makes a Grand Total of...

 

7866,000 Coins.

 

 

 

7.8 Million COins in one round of Bounty Hunter. Even with Jagex's new restrictions of only one of each item, there's still massive RWT'ing going on, and this is part of why. Why are trimmed items even allowed inside?

 

Seriously. Say it takes 5 Minutes for a fight and the penalty. 12 fights an hour, 288 a day. 288*7.8M makes about 2265M. They can still transfer over 2 Billion Coins for one person in a day. And that's just in F2P! God.

 

 

 

And what some people don't seem to understand is that with the new PvP coming out, fewer people will be playing Bounty Hunter, making it that much easier to transfer.

 

 

 

What do we do about this? We can start by having trimmed items not allowed in BH. After that, I'm not sure what else can be done.

 

 

 

-CMP

[Promise]

I'm starting to think that junk trading may be a major factor in this. If you've ever tried to buy or sell a phat, it takes lots of junk. Some people were desperate enough to accept all junk. So you now have have millions of junk, which is extremely hard to sell or get rid of. By gold farming, these people with high amount of junk can swap it for items that can be sold or used such as green d hides. I'm not saying its the root of the problem, but only a theory, which could be entirely wrong.

[Promise]

 

After doing some research, I did some calculations...

 

Sara Helm

 

Sara Body

 

Sara Legs

 

Sara Kite

 

Green D'Hide Coif 0

 

Green D'Hide (G) Body

 

Green D'Hide (G) Chaps

 

Wiz G Hat

 

Wiz G Robe

 

Wiz G Skirt

 

Rune 2h

 

Rune B'Axe

 

Rune Warhammer

 

Rune Pickaxe

 

1000 Death

 

1000 Chaos

 

1000 Nature

 

1000 Cosmic

 

1000 Addy Arrows

 

1000 Mithril Arrows

 

Wiz Ammy (T)

 

Str Ammy (T)

 

 

 

Makes a Grand Total of...

 

7866,000 Coins.

 

 

 

7.8 Million COins in one round of Bounty Hunter. Even with Jagex's new restrictions of only one of each item, there's still massive RWT'ing going on, and this is part of why. Why are trimmed items even allowed inside?

 

Seriously. Say it takes 5 Minutes for a fight and the penalty. 12 fights an hour, 288 a day. 288*7.8M makes about 2265M. They can still transfer over 2 Billion Coins for one person in a day. And that's just in F2P! God.

 

 

 

And what some people don't seem to understand is that with the new PvP coming out, fewer people will be playing Bounty Hunter, making it that much easier to transfer.

 

 

 

What do we do about this? We can start by having trimmed items not allowed in BH. After that, I'm not sure what else can be done.

 

 

 

-CMP

 

 

 

First off, :lol:. But I do give you credit.

 

 

 

That's 22 items... You honestly think you can survive on 6 swordfish for 3 minutes? There maybe places with less people at BH, but there is no way to hide from target locate. Unless you have a whole crew of organized RWT, I highly doubt you'll survive. And who's to say they won't BS you?

[999134]

really bh should be removed and a safe version put in to keep people happy

 

would stop rwt and even the best bh will not make a steady 1mil+ a hour (say you make 5 mil per hour for 4 hours then lose your gs eh?)

 

if they removed wilderness then they can remove bh

[Central_Keeper]

Actually, I agree with the authors response because I can understand Chinese too, and the fact that I see more combat pures in kara island fishing for lobs, its enough to make me suspect something. Since I am also F2P and its not the first time that I seen characters with chinese names walking around not talking and just training, there is high probability that they are coming back due to current or maybe future update.

 

 

 

At least from F2P point of view, its bad enough to compete for raw materials with autoers, and other resources, to the point that common items like coal and yew logs and raw lobs were selling so low, I dont even think it worth the effort to gather it in the first place. Yew log, now 443, before 223 when autoing was really bad, this might be good for fletcher but bad for skillers. This was the problem when autoers came. They show up, killed of real honest skillers, and then make everyone depend on them, when they got killed off by anti RWT update, there no real nor autoers to supply the raw materials, then those fletchers start to complain, lol. As for training, how many people went to yew places like Fally or Rimmington for example, where there is like at least 15 autoers per tree? Its like half of the population is occupied by autoers.

 

 

 

Even though I come from an Asian country, but I really dislike them for making a bad reputation on RS world, not for the point that being racist (how do you be racist again your own race) it simply that they desrupt everyone's gaming experience and brought Chinese people's rep to a whole low lvl.

 

 

 

I never pked, and I never merchanted, but I also play through the era where pkers roamed and merchanters scream at top market places, I totally have no problem with that (in fact, it makes the game more lively that way and I missed the good old scene) all of that vanished when autoers came. I am for one, against RWT 100 percent, but if it means cutting off one part to save the whole body, its a sacrafice (SP) we might have to take. Hopefully, Jagex will come up better solution in the future, and we can only do our part by report possible autoers (I already saw some low lvl advertising websites at GE for awhile now)

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Fine, I will, "I know a way to transfer". Its the hardest[/sarcasm] way out of all of them. You enter Bounty hunter with full dharok ( full saradomin in f2p ) You let yourself get killed by the person who wants the items, then he procceeds to tank his way up to the 3 minute mark with pizza's.

 

 

 

Normal people use it for transfering gifts. Or helping people out when they got hacked or whatever.

 

 

 

Report me for all I'm worth, continiue to be Jagex' little helper. But it cannot be stopped unless bounty hunter is completely removed from the game altogether.

 

 

 

They are on your streets, in your house, all around the world and in the park. They are undetectable and rely on simple but effective ways of transfer. You try and kill the invisible ninja on your own, and good luck. Because R W T cannot be stopped in any game with currency or an economy, FACT. And because of Jagex' cunning plan to make the GE absolutely anonymous, you can't report the goldfarmer anymore during the trading.

 

 

 

I laugh in anyones face who is trying to completely anihilate RWT, because it isn't happening.

 

 

 

What's worse is that it's players like you that suffer the most when RWT updates hit. I guess that the cookie method isn't ever going to work with you. So, how about instead, we just start revamping BH to make it RWT proof then?

 

 

 

No trimmed armor, no treasure trail armor, on Members, if you bring in items over 6M, you get instead half the equivalent money from that kill.

 

 

 

You can stop RWT. The first step is to limit the avenues that it can use to continue business. And with a few tweaks to the GE, BH is going to be the only road leading out to the dark side.

[elit9]

Well, it's never been possible to completely stop RWT (short of removing all item-transfer aspects of PVP) and Jagex knows this. They didn't try to completely kill off RWT, but rather decelerate the process to such a level that the massive RWT organizations wouldn't be able to make enough money with their p2p memberships off stolen credit cards (which was costing Jagex $$$). If these groups have decided that they can turn a sufficient profit transferring items only through BH, though, I would think we could have a problem on our hands once again.

 

 

 

HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUppose that if the irl economy keeps tanking there won't be any more credit cards to steal in the first place. Success. :thumbsup:

[mervinator_9]

They havent so much returned as they never really went away, the numbers reduced dramatically but they are slowly creeping back up.

 

 

 

Of course Bh is to blame for the majority of the money transfering but until its removed wealth can continue to be transfered without great difficulty. Tbh i hope they remove Bh once the new pvp comes out, i think that the kill/loot systems are really causing more trouble than there worth and so long as the new pvp rewards are half decent then i think people could adjust to it in time.

 

 

 

The unfortuanate truth is that without drastic steps its hard to make an impact on Rwt, what happened in Dec last year was a drastic step and put a huge dent in Rwt, to actually stop/slow it down again would take another drastic step imo, and for every person who is ready to accept it there will be someone ready to start a riot or quit over it.

 

 

 

For me removng Bh when the new pvp comes out would be that step but its obvious that A) it would by no means stop it completely and B) would be a very unpopular move,

 

 

 

Of course there are other ways to transfer money, such as the G.E, and even if they were banned im postive a new way would be found, (kill/loot thousands of sharks at clan wars?) but still its important steps are taken to try and reduce Rwt's impact. Otherwise what was the point in losing the wildy in the first place?

[Ezz]

I don't think we should directly assume that PvP worlds will be better than BH, sure they sound better, but it might not be the case. And it's very possible, even if PvP worlds are a great success, that many will still prefer BH over the PvP worlds.

[999134]

I don't think we should directly assume that PvP worlds will be better than BH, sure they sound better, but it might not be the case. And it's very possible, even if PvP worlds are a great success, that many will still prefer BH over the PvP worlds.

 

if you have a lv 112 maxed out mid creator pure then it will get more money bh than pvp worlding so yh some people will still play it

[Prun]

Here is a video of an interview from a gold farmer;

 

I am against RWT hands down, but before anyone judges one has to see both sides to the arguement.

 

 

 

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=KH1LGdjZUKQ

 

Thank you for all your thoughts, many are well thought out, while others are questionable.

[Omali]

Here is a video of an interview from a gold farmer;

 

I am against RWT hands down, but before anyone judges one has to see both sides to the arguement.

 

 

 

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=KH1LGdjZUKQ

 

Thank you for all your thoughts, many are well thought out, while others are questionable.

 

 

 

I have nothing against Gold Farmers personally, I just find it hilarious to prove, by getting them banned, that the old phrase of "Getting banned from Runescape doesn't mean you won't have food on the table" is not necessary true.

[Prun]

That phrase is neither here nor there, as I don't believe I meant that.

[Omali]

That phrase is neither here nor there, as I don't believe I meant that.

 

 

 

I don't remember saying you did say that, reading and comprehending what I say is integral to writing a response.

 

 

 

Now anyone who rants on getting banned and gets a response of "It's just a game, it's not like your well being depends on it", well I guess they have proof it can.

[Prun]

Well, I may have miscomprehended;

 

I apoligize, and am glad we are on the same page, I also agree on what is said above.

[glokstar2727]

Why do you guys always think it's asian people who gold farm? I mean seriously an American, Canadian, Australian or anyone could gold farm and all you guys think it'll only be Asians. That's kind of racist in a way :shame: .

[BioIce]

References from wiki, so take with a grain of salt.

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_sweatshop

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_farming

 

 

 

According to estimates, around 100,000 people in China are employed as gold farmers, as of December 2005.[1] Chinese gold farmers typically work twelve hour shifts, and sometimes up to eighteen hour shifts.

 

 

 

Because many gold farmers are in fact Chinese, people will assume a gold farmer is Chinese.

[Central_Keeper]

Well, unfortunately, thing can get quite stereotypical quickly when majority of them appears to be Chinese in origin. It is also true they could be from somewhere else other than China and still use chinese names.

 

 

 

In any case, just against anyone who gold farms and real world trading in general.

 

 

 

As for those defense where thats how gold farmers feed their families or have a life, there are better ways to make a living than disrupting another place even its only virtual. Of course, this has to do with that person's goal and surround environment, like their local government policies and employment rate (now thats another story)

 

 

 

Otherwise it would be something that look like for all the Gold Farmers out there,

 

 

 

Sample Resume

 

 

 

Name: XXX

 

Employment Highlight: Once Gold farm in RS up to 100mil per month, and never get caught.

 

Past Volunteering Experience: Work in a game sweatshop for free for 1 whole week.....

 

Past Job Experience: RWT and Gold farms in RS, Wow and other online games

 

Salary expectation: 100 to 200 US dollars per month....

 

 

 

PS: Above statement is suppose to be a joke, dont take it seriously, and really, trying to make a wrong thing sounds right, still sounds wrong in the end no matter how much you bend it. (lets leave that to lawyers)

[smurfhunter]

Yea gold farmers will come back ,

 

 

 

but maybe its not to sell the money but to make accounts with levels and cash and then sell them