Until you contribute something to Jagex's finances I don't see why they should reward you for free-loading.

Not to act ungraceful,but the ads do something to fill jagex's pockets ;)

 

 

 

But that's not really F2P'ers paying money to Jagex. It's google paying money to Jagex as they know there will be a high amount of traffic on advertised page.

i see where most members come from but for the love of god calm down this looks just like another f2p bank expansion debate. for all of you members out there who dont belive that f2p makes jagex any money other than to lure them to members ur so stupid u should have ur brain removed. have u not seen the little lag machins called adds at the top of f2per's screens? and now with members not even seeing adds when they play in f2p worlds f2per's are even more needed by jagex if just to substain adds.

 

 

 

Also many members use f2p for clan wars because it minimizes losses but makes shure the oppositon doenst get an upperhand just because jonny2999 cant buy a whip or axe745 cant pay for ancients that week.

 

 

 

so should f2p be updated everyonce in a while? i say shure go for it jagex and from what ive seen on the offical jagex forms they whould if p2p members whould stop complaining about them getting stuff for free but from what i have seen everytime there is a f2p update there is a bigger and better p2p update that comes with it. Look at rev drops and pvp rewards do u not see the triend here ppl? If f2p were to become non existant then the game we all love whould fall appart.

 

 

 

Also for anyone wondering about my history in rs. this is only my second year of rs. my first year was spent entiarly in f2p and as a f2p i was able to make due with the bank size fairly easily... that was untill all the new updates. Roaches and fog were the big 2 things that caused trouble in my bank and that was the main reason for me becoming a member. i wasnt drawn by the wepons or anything else... no i needed more bank space. am i cashing in on all that i payed for and not just using the bank shure but my point here is giving f2p a little here and there wont change things if anything it will help the game grow.

but my point here is giving f2p a little here and there wont change things if anything it will help the game grow.

 

 

 

F2P isn't getting permanent dragon weapons/armor, it will not happen.

 

 

 

ur so stupid u should have ur brain removed.

 

 

 

HA. Irony.

Jagex wants F2P to get Dragon Weapons temporarily so that they will convert to P2P when their weapons degrade. Not too hard of a concept.

 

 

 

You'd have to be stupid to spend 100k-500k on an item that goes away in half an hour. So no real point cause many people arent even thinking of purchasing

Rune and lower claws would be cool. Maybe dragon claws for members at the same time?

but my point here is giving f2p a little here and there wont change things if anything it will help the game grow.

 

 

 

F2P isn't getting permanent dragon weapons/armor, it will not happen.

 

i never said that they whould that is left up to jagex i said they should. also if they made the wepons availiable to buy in f2p but only drops in p2p prices whould go up for those itmes stimulating the economy while giving f2p something new.

 

 

 

ps. if anyone feels the need to debate me on this in real time im extending the offer just pm me here and ill add u.

Giving f2p dragon weapons would destroy what little of a "combat triangle" runescape had in the first place that only exists on f2p.

Giving f2p dragon weapons would destroy what little of a "combat triangle" runescape had in the first place that only exists on f2p.

 

 

 

true but we arnt necisarly saying dragon wepons but maybe something a little better than rune.

 

as well im not saying that the change must happen even if it will rune the game, no pun intended. im saying that jagex should look into it and that p2pers should stop complaining everytime f2pers get a new toy.

Haha, let me get this straight. You "deserve" it? Umm, ok, how excaclly do you deserve it? By playing a free game, enjoying yourself, talking to friends and meeting new people?

 

 

 

Not to be disrespectful, but what a stupid statement.

 

Let me explain in language F2P users can understand.

 

 

 

Jagex = Company.

 

Company = need money.

 

F2P Players = no money.

 

F2P Players = no money for company = useless (unless they convert to members, which is excacly why the vanishing dragon was released. To get a taste of what members feels like)

 

 

 

So basically you do not benefit the company financially and yet you expect it to give you content? Why would they do that? Do tell.

 

I know it's a hard concept for F2P'ers to get their mind around, but you simply can't have good things for free in this world.

 

 

 

You can always ask your mommy or daddy for 5$ dollars though right? Instead of buying a Big-Mac?

 

 

 

P.S. The advertisements keep F2P running, if there were no advertisments, then there'd be no Free Version of this game. Just members.

 

 

 

Be glad for what you have and stop whining.

Haha, let me get this straight. You "deserve" it? Umm, ok, how excaclly do you deserve it? By playing a free game, enjoying yourself, talking to friends and meeting new people?

 

 

 

Not to be disrespectful, but what a stupid statement.

 

Let me explain in language F2P users can understand.

 

 

 

Jagex = Company.

 

Company = need money.

 

F2P Players = no money. *

 

F2P Players = no money for company = useless (unless they convert to members, which is excacly why the vanishing dragon was released. To get a taste of what members feels like)

 

 

 

So basically you do not benefit the company financially and yet you expect it to give you content? Why would they do that? Do tell.

 

I know it's a hard concept for F2P'ers to get their mind around, but you simply can't have good things for free in this world.

 

 

 

You can always ask your mommy or daddy for 5$ dollars though right? Instead of buying a Big-Mac?

 

 

 

P.S. The advertisements keep F2P running, if there were no advertisments, then there'd be no Free Version of this game. Just members. **

 

 

 

 

Now, it may be hard concept for some of you members to get around your heads, but not all of us F2P players are the idiots who hang around banks asking for free stuff, nor are we as ignorant as you assume we are. Many of us are fully aware that we do not deserve any updates. I find it amusing how members assume that all us F2P players are complete idiots.

 

 

 

Not only that, but almost all F2P veterans understand that we do not want dragon items. We understand that if F2P melee were to receive dragon items, the combat triangle would be ruined. Mage and Range are already at a slight disadvantage, adding something like Dragon would make ranging and mage(in combat) inferior.

 

 

 

*=I love how you contradict yourself. First you say that F2P players don't make Jagex any money, then later on you state that advertisements pay for F2P.

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Haha, let me get this straight. You "deserve" it? Umm, ok, how excaclly do you deserve it? By playing a free game, enjoying yourself, talking to friends and meeting new people?

 

 

 

Not to be disrespectful, but what a stupid statement.

 

Let me explain in language F2P users can understand.

 

 

 

Jagex = Company.

 

Company = need money.

 

F2P Players = no money. *

 

F2P Players = no money for company = useless (unless they convert to members, which is excacly why the vanishing dragon was released. To get a taste of what members feels like)

 

 

 

So basically you do not benefit the company financially and yet you expect it to give you content? Why would they do that? Do tell.

 

I know it's a hard concept for F2P'ers to get their mind around, but you simply can't have good things for free in this world.

 

 

 

You can always ask your mommy or daddy for 5$ dollars though right? Instead of buying a Big-Mac?

 

 

 

P.S. The advertisements keep F2P running, if there were no advertisments, then there'd be no Free Version of this game. Just members. **

 

 

 

 

Now, it may be hard concept for some of you members to get around your heads, but not all of us F2P players are the idiots who hang around banks asking for free stuff, nor are we as ignorant as you assume we are. Many of us are fully aware that we do not deserve any updates. I find it amusing how members assume that all us F2P players are complete idiots.

 

 

 

Not only that, but almost all F2P veterans understand that we do not want dragon items. We understand that if F2P melee were to receive dragon items, the combat triangle would be ruined. Mage and Range are already at a slight disadvantage, adding something like Dragon would make ranging and mage(in combat) inferior.

 

 

 

*=I love how you contradict yourself. First you say that F2P players don't make Jagex any money, then later on you state that advertisements pay for F2P.

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I ofcourse, realise that not all F2P'ers are like that, but my post was mainly adressed to people of that kind (like the author: W4t is thIs BS, we want free stuf plz). If you are one of the 10% that are actually intelegent , I assumed you'd skip my post.

 

 

 

Most of the advertisment money (if not all) goes to keep the f2p servers, customer service bug fixes and all the good stuff running for F2P. Look it up, if ya don't believe me.

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Haha, let me get this straight. You "deserve" it? Umm, ok, how excaclly do you deserve it? By playing a free game, enjoying yourself, talking to friends and meeting new people?

 

 

 

Not to be disrespectful, but what a stupid statement.

 

Let me explain in language F2P users can understand.

 

 

 

Jagex = Company.

 

Company = need money.

 

F2P Players = no money. *

 

F2P Players = no money for company = useless (unless they convert to members, which is excacly why the vanishing dragon was released. To get a taste of what members feels like)

 

 

 

So basically you do not benefit the company financially and yet you expect it to give you content? Why would they do that? Do tell.

 

I know it's a hard concept for F2P'ers to get their mind around, but you simply can't have good things for free in this world.

 

 

 

You can always ask your mommy or daddy for 5$ dollars though right? Instead of buying a Big-Mac?

 

 

 

P.S. The advertisements keep F2P running, if there were no advertisments, then there'd be no Free Version of this game. Just members. **

 

 

 

 

Now, it may be hard concept for some of you members to get around your heads, but not all of us F2P players are the idiots who hang around banks asking for free stuff, nor are we as ignorant as you assume we are. Many of us are fully aware that we do not deserve any updates. I find it amusing how members assume that all us F2P players are complete idiots.

 

 

 

Not only that, but almost all F2P veterans understand that we do not want dragon items. We understand that if F2P melee were to receive dragon items, the combat triangle would be ruined. Mage and Range are already at a slight disadvantage, adding something like Dragon would make ranging and mage(in combat) inferior.

 

 

 

*=I love how you contradict yourself. First you say that F2P players don't make Jagex any money, then later on you state that advertisements pay for F2P.

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I ofcourse, realise that not all F2P'ers are like that, but my post was mainly adressed to people of that kind (like the author: W4t is thIs BS, we want free stuf plz). If you are one of the 10% that are actually intelegent (like yourself) , I assumed you'd skip my post.

 

 

 

Most of the advertisment money (if not all) goes to keep the f2p servers, customer service bug fixes and all the good stuff running for F2P. Look it up, if ya don't believe me.

 

 

 

P.S. My spell check is dead, so if you're horrified by my grammar. Then well :twss:

f2p is good as it is, imo. Jagex wants people to subscribe if they want to experience extra features. Who would if f2p has updates as often as p2p?

f2p is good as it is, imo. Jagex wants people to subscribe if they want to experience extra features. Who would if f2p has updates as often as p2p?

 

 

 

'Nuff said... Seriously... F2p are lucky that JaGex keeps it unlimited! It is only a trial, but a very nice trial at that!

 

And anybody could earn like $6.50 in an hour-two... not that hard!

you realy think that all of the money from adds is needed just to keep f2p alive... o pleaze thats a load of crap and i dont care if u heard it from jagex themselves there are plenty of games/sites out there that are alive strictly because of adds.

 

look at google, yahoo, ect. the reason that jagex has adds is because there are lots of f2pers and because of this other organizations will pay them to hold their adds on their site.

 

also for those of you saying that it will ruin the combat triangle i whould have to say that thats done and over especialy in the case of mages.

 

finaly i whould like to say that personaly i dont care what jagex does to f2p as long as it does something for them everyonce in a while and i dont mean give them something to try and put them in a perdicament where they feel pressured to become a mem but something that will help survive i mean shure there are new players everyday who cares if we louse a few here and there but those players are inexperienced and dont help stimulate game play initaly but if we keep f2pers attracted then they will help stimulate gameplay for members as well as reap their own rewards. didnt any of you read this site's artical on how f2p stimulates p2p by supplying raw materials and buying finshed materials?

 

 

 

the main point im trying to get across here is that f2p is taken for granit by members and unless u like spending money on games u dont know about u were in their shoes once too.

you realy think that all of the money from adds is needed just to keep f2p alive... o pleaze thats a load of crap and i dont care if u heard it from jagex themselves there are plenty of games/sites out there that are alive strictly because of adds.

 

look at google, yahoo, ect. the reason that jagex has adds is because there are lots of f2pers and because of this other organizations will pay them to hold their adds on their site.

 

also for those of you saying that it will ruin the combat triangle i whould have to say that thats done and over especialy in the case of mages.

 

finaly i whould like to say that personaly i dont care what jagex does to f2p as long as it does something for them everyonce in a while and i dont mean give them something to try and put them in a perdicament where they feel pressured to become a mem but something that will help survive i mean shure there are new players everyday who cares if we louse a few here and there but those players are inexperienced and dont help stimulate game play initaly but if we keep f2pers attracted then they will help stimulate gameplay for members as well as reap their own rewards. didnt any of you read this site's artical on how f2p stimulates p2p by supplying raw materials and buying finshed materials?

 

 

 

the main point im trying to get across here is that f2p is taken for granit by members and unless u like spending money on games u dont know about u were in their shoes once too.

 

 

 

LIke greene said, f2p is more of a trail version than the full, membershipped game. F2p is being kept alive! Hello, look at DUEL ARENA after Pking was taken out, look at FIST OF GUTHIX, look at GREAT ORB PROJECT, PLAYER STRONGHOLD OF SECURITY for the new monsters, BOUNTY HUNTER..

 

 

 

I'm f2p atm and I don't see anything wrong.

 

the main point im trying to get across here is that f2p is taken for granit by members and unless u like spending money on games u dont know about u were in their shoes once too.

 

 

 

LIke greene said, f2p is more of a trail version than the full, membershipped game. F2p is being kept alive! Hello, look at DUEL ARENA after Pking was taken out, look at FIST OF GUTHIX, look at GREAT ORB PROJECT, PLAYER STRONGHOLD OF SECURITY for the new monsters, BOUNTY HUNTER..

 

 

 

I'm f2p atm and I don't see anything wrong.

 

 

 

well then thats supprizing unless u set up ur bank so that u have every f2p item u need but i digress...

 

 

 

duel arena doent realy do much any more and it was given to f2p, much like fog and bh were, to replace pking when the wild was removed because thats realy what many f2pers did for fun was pk.

 

 

 

also, at the risk of sounding like a consperity theiorist, i belive that fog and the great orb project were added for another reaoson and that was to influence people to become members. for those of you confused let me explain. with the new fog items taking up space in f2pers' banks, they quickly ran out of room. this reason as i stated earlyer is why i became a member i just chould not function with the f2p bank and that was befor the great orb project.

 

 

 

Also i suspect that the security center was added as a buffer because they noticed a drop in f2p activity after the lose of the wild, even with bh and duel arena so jagex gave players something new to distract them while they fixed the issues.

 

 

 

truely im supprised that f2pers even have the new banking options other than it was probably easyer for jagex to write the coding that way because they have no need for it.

 

 

 

also it seems we are going way off topic here and im mostly to blame but if anyone wants my oppinion on wether or not f2p deserves dragon weapons or not i say no but they do deserve something and again something that isnt loaded with membership hooks.

 

 

 

i know any update will influence membership but i dont belive it should do it as much as i see in these other updates.

Bank space? I have some 5-6 members items in my bank and I still fall under 60 items..

 

 

 

All I keep are the "important" stuff and some fun clothing.

The fact that f2p wants dragon weapons is reason enough to not give them to f2p, jagex is a business you know. :P

Bank space? I have some 5-6 members items in my bank and I still fall under 60 items..

 

 

 

All I keep are the "important" stuff and some fun clothing.

 

 

 

just rember important to you may be diffrent than important itmes for most f2pers. also during this time i was in a warring clan and needed to be ready for wars at a moments notice so i had to keep all that gear in my bank at all times and i still do even though im a mem just out of habit.

If there's one thing F2P needs, it's bank space.

Give me one good reason why you deserve to gain members only content when you don't pay and have been leeching off a free version of the game.

 

Lets see, I was a paying member for 3 and a half years, now I'm F2P so I can focus on school rather then play 'scape. :ugeek:

 

Don't assume that because I'm F2P, I havn't been a member *EVER* I've been a member longer then F2P. :wall:

Give me one good reason why you deserve to gain members only content when you don't pay and have been leeching off a free version of the game.

 

Lets see, I was a paying member for 3 and a half years, now I'm F2P so I can focus on school rather then play 'scape. :ugeek:

 

Don't assume that because I'm F2P, I havn't been a member *EVER* I've been a member longer then F2P. :wall:

 

 

 

Because Jagex needs content to lure high-mid level loyal f2pers into the P2p realm, and cheap corrupt dragon weapons aren't going to cut it, because most of those players wouldn't try them anyway, waste of money. Many f2p players level up to the requirements for the best available weapons and armour, get bored and see no point in training further and quit: Loss of base for Jagex.

Tbh I'd give F2P a D Long or two just to see less of threads like this.

 

 

 

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