F2P gives Jagex enough money trough ads to be profitable. Else they would have stopped 'upgrading' F2P a long time ago. Afterall, that's what a company is all about: Profit.

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de·serve (d-zûrv)

 

v. de·served, de·serv·ing, de·serves

 

v.tr.

 

To be worthy of; merit.

 

 

 

Why the hell are any of you saying that f2p doesn't "deserve" Dragon weapons? Who gives you the right to say who "deserves" something or doesn't? Because you pay for members (which I do as well) you think you can pick who should and shouldn't get an item? Even if f2p was to receive dragon items on down the road, that will not effect your gameplay at all, nor will it decrease the amount of membership (or rather, decrease by a significant amount) that Jagex receives.

 

 

 

Main point is...stop trying to tell others what they do or don't deserve. Members didn't "deserve" to get Godswords, but they still received them.

 

why are f2p worthy of dragon items jagex receive nothing from them :|

 

oh and if paying players don't deserve godswords to we deserve any updates at all and we should be going back to the first day of rs release

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Correction, F2P actually gives JAGEX a fair wad of cash every month from the adverts that they display at the top of the page. Maybe you could take the into consideration and rethink you whole 'they give nothing...don't deserve argument'.

 

 

 

On Topic: I think that Dragon Weapons could be good for F2P, as they have no decent weapons, but the weapons should not have the Specs. That would make them too over powered.

 

 

 

Yes, they do have decent weapons, if only for the fact that they have decent armour. Give them better weapons, you would need better armour, which goes back to the "hand/arm" quote.

 

 

 

Yes, F2P'ers do provide money for Jagex because of the adverts, but there is quite a difference between money out of your pockets and a middleman through the website itself. P2P actually hands them cash, taking money out of our pockets, we should obviously get something of equivalence; updates. F2P has gotten so many updates over this past year, probably more than ever. Because of this, I would love to just see Jagex announce F2P's completion, but that is highly unrealistic of them.

 

 

 

Let's all face it, F2P is just there to make money for Jagex. It adds a "demo" and previews into membership, and Jagex just hopes that they will see the benefits and pay them. The only reason they add content now is because it stretches this into more areas. For example, 50RC is hard in F2P, but if they joined members, they could have easily reached that level in less than a week. So no, regardless of how you define it, I do not think that F2P "deserves" anything.

OK, everyone. Cut the crap about F2p being a demo, Jagex just in it for making money etc.

 

We all know F2p is not the "full game" but to some of us it's enough, we all know Jagex is a comapny and as a company their goal is to make money.

 

 

 

But what you have missed is that, in order to get people to become members they must first

 

like F2p which by judging some of the posts made here F2p is worth less than [cabbage].

 

 

 

Try come up with some more valid arguments instead of always bashing F2p'ers.

 

There have been alot of really good posts here from both sides but lately their seems to be alot of bashing. I'm not the one to judge but I just want to express my opinion.

 

 

 

On-Topic: I'm F2p, have always been and I don't want Dragon weapons/armour.

 

As Laura0077 said, we already have decent weapons and armour, although I don't like the Hand/Arm quote as it means that F2p'ers will TAKE the arm if you give them the hand cause it's not the case, if Jagex decides to give F2p a weapon like Dragon they must give the armour and some Weapons/Armour that can match Dragon for Magers and Rangers.

 

I think F2p has done great witth Rune being the best Wepons/Armour.

They don't deserve them. If they want the full benefit then they can pay. F2p is a TRIAL. Jagex would lose money if they made dragon f2p. Dragon is supposed to make people want members, but if they give it for free then some people wouldn't subscribe cause they already have what they want. Besides, then they would have to change so many quests. Membership is also so cheap. If you like the game, there is really no reason you can't pay for it.

To be honest all of this can be solved if everyone made a pure account. You'd get easier kills, there wouldn't be a total market shift, which would make things worse (probably in the long-term), & overall it's much more fun than on runers hitting more 0s than 5s.

To be honest all of this can be solved if everyone made a pure account. You'd get easier kills, there wouldn't be a total market shift, which would make things worse (probably in the long-term), & overall it's much more fun than on runers hitting more 0s than 5s.

 

Pures smell like OLD MAN BALLS (please note that i am not speaking out of personla experience)

its not wat melee needs i think they need to make some improvement in magic or range if anything.

I'm currently f2p, and i don't think we need dragon weapons, and even to the point that we don't deserve them.

 

 

 

*barrell rolls to avoid various thrown objects*

 

 

 

though seriously, better melee weapons leads to better melee armour, leads to bigger monsters so that things don't die as easy, leads to better food to fend off the max hits, leads to better fish to serve as food, leads to a completely new area for f2p, leads to a new quest to unlock the area, leads to better range and magics to balance pvp, leads to monsters to act as a challenge to range and mage, leads to fletching and runecrafting becoming more f2p for ammunition, leading to new ways to get better weapons, leading to boss monsters, which leads to...members.

 

 

 

pay the 5 dollars, or be happy with what we got. Jagex is a business, and a good one at that, surfice what people say. Even the people complaining on the RSOF are paying 5 dollars a month for cabbage's sake.

F2P gives Jagex enough money trough ads to be profitable. Else they would have stopped 'upgrading' F2P a long time ago. Afterall, that's what a company is all about: Profit.

 

 

 

+1.

 

 

 

If jagex still would do how they did back in the 2001s... they wouldn'tve done the game this far, and this good. Some oldbies might know what I mean: RS was supposed to be a free, nice game, in jagex's likings, too.

They don't deserve them.

 

 

 

Forget deserve, do we even need them? The highest level non-rev monster in F2P is the greater demon, and those are all put away in the very back of the F2P wilderness. With rune armour, most of us can kill lesser demons with ease.

 

 

 

The fact that new weapons such as the whip, the god swords, etc are superior to dragon isn't relevant. Even for player killing, there are ways to deal with runners/tele'ers (bind and teleblock, though teleblock is a lv85 spell).

 

 

 

That is, not to say I wouldn't like dragon armor to be available in F2P, just that it isn't necessary.

As a f2p-er, I'd be more than happy with claws, spears, halberds, and crossbows. I'd like to see some decent mage gear rather than dragon gear as well. Not some overpriced degrading crap from a minigame either.

As a f2p-er, I'd be more than happy with claws, spears, halberds, and crossbows. I'd like to see some decent mage gear rather than dragon gear as well. Not some overpriced degrading crap from a minigame either.

 

That's why you guys get the "degrading crap." So that Jagex makes more F2P'ers come over to P2P.

 

 

 

When I read it, I thought Jagex had done a great job; as now people can actually experience P2P through Dragon Weapons. If they want the Weapons for their everyday use, however, they must pay the monthly fee.

The main reason why f2p is getting this "degrading crap" as others have put it, is to try and lure more f2pers into p2p. In my eyes, f2p neither deserve or need better wepons or armour.

 

Honestly what the [cabbage] are you going to do with it, the monsters are hardly tough, and f2p is just like a "taster" of p2p.

 

 

 

In the end Jagex is a company, and companies want to profit.So why would they give a "budget" version of the game Top-of-the-line equipment for free.. :?:

Pking is only part of the F2P demo, just like P2P. One of the reasons members have such powerful weapons at their disposal is because we also have access to some ridiculously powerful monsters. The most powerful beastie an F2P player is going to face would probably be a revenant, or a greater demon.

 

 

 

Of course, if you want access to more sophisticated PKing, you could always, perhaps, maybe, pay Jagex $8 per month?

I don't see it happening, I mean, the whole point of F2P is really to pretty much make you want P2P, wielding dragon is one of those incentives.

Prehaps maybe I could see some more Berserker armour coming in for F2P? I mean, we already got the shield.. Maybe one day FOG will have more to offer?

I'm of the opinion that F2Pers should stop demanding stuff. You don't pay, you have a great game that's free as it is and you're lucky to have got what you did with the PvP update.

 

 

 

I'm sorry if you feel this is dismissive but I don't see why you feel you "deserve" anything. How many other games can you name that have as much free content as RuneScape F2P? And for as long as RS has?

 

 

 

It's £3.50. Cough up or shhhh!

f2p neither deserve or need better weapons or armour.

 

 

 

 

This is true tbh.

It's £3.50. Cough up or shhhh!

 

 

 

Nobody pays $6 to use claws, snakeskin armor, smithable spears, halberds [excluding Dragon], or anything else that you don't ever bother using in your bank.

It's £3.50. Cough up or shhhh!

 

 

 

Nobody pays $6 to use claws, snakeskin armor, smithable spears, halberds [excluding Dragon], or anything else that you don't ever bother using in your bank.

 

 

 

I say F2P doesn't "deserve" anything more than it already has and you say... that?

 

 

 

How does that apply to my comment?

It's £3.50. Cough up or shhhh!

 

 

 

Nobody pays $6 to use claws, snakeskin armor, smithable spears, halberds [excluding Dragon], or anything else that you don't ever bother using in your bank.

 

 

 

I say F2P doesn't "deserve" anything more than it already has and you say... that?

 

 

 

How does that apply to my comment?

 

Hes saying give FTP what members dont use.

 

But the truth is; many people start members from a lower level, so they WILL use things like that, either out of lack of experience, lack of money, lack of needed skills, or a combination of all of them.

F2P gives Jagex enough money trough ads to be profitable. Else they would have stopped 'upgrading' F2P a long time ago. Afterall, that's what a company is all about: Profit.

 

 

 

+1.

 

 

 

If jagex still would do how they did back in the 2001s... they wouldn'tve done the game this far, and this good. Some oldbies might know what I mean: RS was supposed to be a free, nice game, in jagex's likings, too.

 

 

 

'upgrading' F2P? Let's take a look at this...

 

Holiday events are traditional and have little effect to the game

 

PvP was to replace wildy

 

The strongholds were to improve a person's knowledge of internet safety

 

The runecrafting and fist of guthix minigames were partal replacements to wildy to imporove player interaction

 

The dec 2007 update was for RWT

 

 

 

these arn't upgrades, they're security to keep their business safe while not making their customers run away in terror in having to read a page essay on what to do if someone want's to meet you in real life through runescape or go to another game that isn't a series of clicks. The only reason for f2p is to let people play the game so they will pay members.

 

 

 

And if the game was still f2p, we would be at 60 quests, player owned houses would still be asked for, and people would still be begging for dragon plate not for the new item but because it would be the best they could use.

Until you contribute something to Jagex's finances I don't see why they should reward you for free-loading.

Until you contribute something to Jagex's finances I don't see why they should reward you for free-loading.

Not to act ungraceful,but the ads do something to fill jagex's pockets ;)

Jagex wants F2P to get Dragon Weapons temporarily so that they will convert to P2P when their weapons degrade. Not too hard of a concept.