Obama and mandatory "civilian security force"

[Nadril]

It's not manditory and in all honesty it sounds like a good idea.

 

 

 

$4,000 for college for 100 hours of community service. That is roughly $40 an hour going to college! A person could do community service a few hours per week and make the 100 hour mark for the year. For students struggling with paying off college this is a huge help.

 

 

 

I can already make $40/hour if I wanted to, but I don't like the hours and working conditions for it

 

 

 

I really doubt that, but if you can good for you. Most students can't get above $10 an hour if they're lucky.

[Furah]

I can already make $40/hour if I wanted to, but I don't like the hours and working conditions for it

 

Being a hooker or a drug dealer doesn't count.

 

 

 

And neither do pesos.

 

 

 

-.-

 

it is actually a legal job, and not something as low as those...

[Nadril]

What is it? I really have no idea what job a student could do for a steady $40 an hour. Unless you're getting paid some serious cash to mow lawns.

[baalboy5]

What is it? I really have no idea what job a student could do for a steady $40 an hour. Unless you're getting paid some serious cash to mow lawns.

 

Secretary?

[ThurinEthir]

Even if it was actually forced, I would see nothing wrong with it. 50 hours a year? Isn't that about 1 hour a week? I don't know anyone who doesn't have at least 1 free hour per week. And there's summer. I personally already volunteer with my youth group at a bunch of events, definitely over 50 hours in total. And there'd be motivation. Money. :D

 

(It's also good preparation for later in life, as far as I'm concerned...)

 

But it's not mandatory. So who cares. I'm still going to do my "community service".

[unknownmasterofnothing]

I had mandatory 20 hours of community service in middle school and high school as well. I'd love to be paid, plus you help out as well.

[Rebdragon]

Good for the students, bad for the economy.

 

 

 

kranked seems annoying.

[RichieMcD]

Good for the students, bad for the economy.

 

 

 

kranked seems annoying.

 

 

 

How so?

[Tetsuya]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com

 

 

 

Stopped reading there. :roll:

[BlueLancer]

It's not manditory and in all honesty it sounds like a good idea.

 

 

 

$4,000 for college for 100 hours of community service. That is roughly $40 an hour going to college! A person could do community service a few hours per week and make the 100 hour mark for the year. For students struggling with paying off college this is a huge help.

 

 

 

I can already make $40/hour if I wanted to, but I don't like the hours and working conditions for it

 

 

 

Unless you're in an executive position or have specialist degrees/deal illegal substances, the wage you described is more or less impossible for a student.

 

 

 

Working normal 8 hour days 5 times per week at that job would net $6,400 before taxes a month. For comparison doctors with 5+years of experience and a university MD degree earn rougly $4,500 before taxes a month.

 

 

 

You'd be pretty hard pressed to even find a student making $20 an hour, given most work at minimum wage up to 10 bucks, the tuition money this program offers is exceptionally good financial compensation for time spent

[scootlaboot]

Even if it was actually forced, I would see nothing wrong with it. 50 hours a year? Isn't that about 1 hour a week? I don't know anyone who doesn't have at least 1 free hour per week. And there's summer. I personally already volunteer with my youth group at a bunch of events, definitely over 50 hours in total. And there'd be motivation. Money. :D

 

(It's also good preparation for later in life, as far as I'm concerned...)

 

But it's not mandatory. So who cares. I'm still going to do my "community service".

 

Community service not being mandatory is a good thing for college students normally, potential employers like to see community service on a resume. However, Obama's plan sort of screws over that part of community service with helping out college students by giving them money towards college. It's sort of a double edge sword, but it might not be. Only time will tell.

[Orpheus]

It's not manditory and in all honesty it sounds like a good idea.

 

 

 

$4,000 for college for 100 hours of community service. That is roughly $40 an hour going to college! A person could do community service a few hours per week and make the 100 hour mark for the year. For students struggling with paying off college this is a huge help.

 

 

 

Logically, yes it is. Thing is, how many aren't busy and have that time for that is the question...

[Barihawk]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com

 

 

 

Stopped reading there. :roll:

 

 

 

You mean you didn't stop reading at "Highlanders?"

 

 

 

We've learned that anything he posts should be taken with a dose of salt. It's ok magekillr, when Bush was the bees knees, Highlanders was posting all sorts of leftist stuff. He ebbs and flows.

 

 

 

Myself? I won't be doing this as I am above the age so I really have no opinion. I just don't like the idea of a "civilian security force" as much as "community service."

[Saru Inc]

As long as it doesn't end up like the Hitler Youth (which was founded on the exact same ideals of getting children educated and helping the unfortunate) I am fine with it. I really doubt it's going to really motivate too many people.

 

 

 

 

 

Or the Ba'aath party for that matter. (I believe there was a section for kids, am I right?)

[Sir_Redhead]

It honestly doesn't seem like a all that bad of an idea, i mean i can set aside a few hours a week that I use to play runescape, to make some money. Or even just to have something fun to do.

 

 

 

My only concern is our economy, it's in a deep enough hole as it is, and if this is part of his way to fixing it, then I'm concerned. We need money coming in, not more money going out.

[magekillr]

I don't see how this would be bad for the economy, though. If he makes cuts to the money states get for education, it should even out now, and give government more money as not all students are going to participate.

 

 

 

If the jobs students do would normally be paid jobs, what's wrong with that? Less costs for companies, and free work. Sounds like a good idea to me.

 

 

 

I am concerned about where the money's going to come from, however. Our debt is astronomically high from a man that had HIGH spending, and low taxes. I might be extremely left economically, but that doesn't make me fiscally irresponsible.

[Furah]

What is it? I really have no idea what job a student could do for a steady $40 an hour. Unless you're getting paid some serious cash to mow lawns.

 

 

 

washing trucks, I am not doing it because in the summer the heat + soapy water is unbearable

[venomai]

washing trucks, I am not doing it because in the summer the heat + soapy water is unbearable

 

Oh dear, you wouldn't want to get a sunburn or have to deal with soapy water. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

40 hours of community service was mandatory to graduate from high schools in my city. I got my hours done working with disabled kids at a camp. I loved the work, don't get me wrong, but washing trucks in the sun and getting paid a ridiculously high wage sounds like a luxury compared to some of the things I was dealing with.

[Rebdragon]

I don't see how this would be bad for the economy, though. If he makes cuts to the money states get for education, it should even out now, and give government more money as not all students are going to participate.

 

As if the schooling system here didn't suck enough as it is. No offense man, but handing out cash to kids in place of helping out the schools they go to seems a little bit like a bad idea :| (that is, if these cuts were even made).

[jackattack]

^^ That's right. I just read that the CSU's over here are turning away people with B averages. Obviously San Diego and Chico would but now it's like Sac, Fresno, San Jose, and others.

 

 

 

Anyway, expanding community service definitely isn't a bad thing. President Bush doubled the size of the Americorps a few years back. Obama should increase it further.

[tennisnick12]

What is it? I really have no idea what job a student could do for a steady $40 an hour. Unless you're getting paid some serious cash to mow lawns.

 

 

 

washing trucks, I am not doing it because in the summer the heat + soapy water is unbearable

 

I call uber bs on this. Unless your dad owns some company and decides that he will let you work for one hour a day and make $40. If this is a legit job why don't you post a website or the name of the company, because I will happily work for this company.

[Denismage]

What is it? I really have no idea what job a student could do for a steady $40 an hour. Unless you're getting paid some serious cash to mow lawns.

 

 

 

washing trucks, I am not doing it because in the summer the heat + soapy water is unbearable

 

 

 

Steady 40$ income for washing trucks, a job that requires no education or thinking?

 

 

 

Funny guy. :D

[Lordjake]

What is it? I really have no idea what job a student could do for a steady $40 an hour. Unless you're getting paid some serious cash to mow lawns.

 

 

 

washing trucks, I am not doing it because in the summer the heat + soapy water is unbearable

 

I call uber bs on this. Unless your dad owns some company and decides that he will let you work for one hour a day and make $40. If this is a legit job why don't you post a website or the name of the company, because I will happily work for this company.

 

yeah because everyone who washes cars has a website to go along with it :wall:

[Nadril]

I could almost see him making like $10 bucks a car, and could feasibly do 4 cars in an hour or something...

 

 

 

Still it's not a steady income, not even something I gather you could make $4,000 off of in a year. Especially if you take off the entire summer for those "issues".

[Denismage]

I could almost see him making like $10 bucks a car, and could feasibly do 4 cars in an hour or something...

 

 

 

Still it's not a steady income, not even something I gather you could make $4,000 off of in a year. Especially if you take off the entire summer for those "issues".

 

 

 

It's not like there's a line of cars waiting for him to service them, unless he's one of those annoying kids who run up to a car and start cleaning it against the drivers will while he is in traffic, and then demand money although the driver has not asked them to clean his windshield.