Parental control's

[gedboy2112]

I have seen some of the parental control's that lazy parent's try to use to make sure a kid does not access something "inappropriate". I'm thankful that my parent's don't use them on me and if they did I would disable them faster then they could say disable. I think that it's the parent's job to watch what the kid is doing and not what a stupid computer program does, I can think of any number of way's to get around them. any tech savvy teen or tween could also. I don't know why but I think of parental control's being used by the conservative "focus on the family" soccer mom's who want to protect there little bundle of joy from seeing a picture of a model in a swim suite.

 

I oppose any form of parental control's and think it's mom's job to protect (insert name hear) from seeing somthing bad.

 

 

 

 

 

What's you're view of the use of them.

 

 

 

On a side note relating to violence/sex filter's, Why is it that in an R rated movie I can see PLENTY of violence but when ANY form of sex is shown it get's an NC-17? I mean sex is pleasurable. It's the reason why we still exist and it's constructive where violence is destructive.

 

Hell my mom would rather have me see a porn flick (For the record she dosent care if I see em) wherest she's not a fan of me watching robocop 2 (but let's me watch them anyway).

 

 

 

Why is violence much more accepted then sex when Violence is MUCH worse then sex?

 

If you answer that I'll give you a cookie.

[BlueLancer]

Add idiotic sites like the random section of 4chan to ISP-level unpassable filters, a real-time proxy block updater that crawls free proxy sites for existing & latest proxy IP's, ban them, and the online world gets rid of 90% of the idiocy and memes floating around. Allow parent to block/unblock the filter as long as the child is underage.

 

 

 

Current 'control' systems are really sloppy, the only few working systems I read about are in schools. Not many people spend much time surfing for fun during school hours.

 

 

 

Not all people are affected by content they see. Still I wouldn't take the risk of exposing my kid to everything that's online, after seeing how disturbed/weird young people can also become in real life after doing so.

[justin_m23]

The school systems are over protective though. Any research I needed to conduct when I was at school had to be done at home since half the useful pages were blocked out on the school system.

[Guest]

My schools block is weak. A few years ago, I got onto MSN by going onto it in french lol. Also, it's possible to change the adress so it's not blocked with the help of a extension, and a bit of know-how. (Example: Change .com to .co.nr with a website)

[Kenshinjapan]

Are you serious? You expect parents to hang over their kids' shoulders every second they're on the internet? Boohoo, you get blocked and can't [bleep] as easily. As for shoving the entire over protective parent label, not cool.

[gedboy2112]

Are you serious? You expect parents to hang over their kids' shoulders every second they're on the internet? Boohoo, you get blocked and can't [bleep] as easily. As for shoving the entire over protective parent label, not cool.

 

 

 

Maybe the parent's need to raise children who know what's right an what's wrong on the internet.

 

parent's need to trust children without being Nieve, unless you have a really smart child who can delete there history, you can look at what there doing.

[Kenshinjapan]

Are you serious? You expect parents to hang over their kids' shoulders every second they're on the internet? Boohoo, you get blocked and can't [bleep] as easily. As for shoving the entire over protective parent label, not cool.

 

 

 

Maybe the parent's need to raise children who know what's right an what's wrong on the internet.

 

parent's need to trust children without being Nieve, unless you have a really smart child who can delete there history, you can look at what there doing.

 

 

 

A child like me? I deleted my history ever since I was introduced to computers. I only got caught when they walked into a screen full of porn. Expecting your child to not do anything bad is foolish, I was taught what was wrong with the internet but I didn't listed. You know why? because I was a child that didn't care about anything that was told to me.

[anonymous1234]

Are you serious? You expect parents to hang over their kids' shoulders every second they're on the internet? Boohoo, you get blocked and can't [bleep] as easily. As for shoving the entire over protective parent label, not cool.

 

 

 

Maybe the parent's need to raise children who know what's right an what's wrong on the internet.

 

parent's need to trust children without being Nieve, unless you have a really smart child who can delete there history, you can look at what there doing.

 

takes real brains to figure out control+H means history

[Guest]

Are you serious? You expect parents to hang over their kids' shoulders every second they're on the internet? Boohoo, you get blocked and can't [bleep] as easily. As for shoving the entire over protective parent label, not cool.

 

 

 

Maybe the parent's need to raise children who know what's right an what's wrong on the internet.

 

parent's need to trust children without being Nieve, unless you have a really smart child who can delete there history, you can look at what there doing.

 

takes real brains to figure out control+H means history

 

 

 

It does?

 

 

 

Jk.

[OldJoe]

OK drunk when answering, ,and i hope my spelling is good. going to sleep after this.

 

 

 

Yes, i think parents and adults are more ok with violent movies while sex and porn movies are not ok. because i think maybe violence is something most kids have experienced already, dunno your age, but sex is something different, it's something that you actually (don't reply, damn you, stop acting so parenting) wait with until you meet the one that you really like and care about.

 

My parents didn't let me see violent movies until i was 14 or so (still watched jurassic park and some other movies when i was younger. i remember i watched *don't remember name* (move about ome girl getting possed with satan and some guys is trying to get rid of satan in her body, from the 70's), and it was actually good that they didn't allow me to watch such movies. Because i remember this horror movie i saw (the one im trying to describe above) when i was 12 and in the middle of the night, i was [cabbage] scared after watching it for a couple of weeks.

 

I think it's good with certain age limits, when the brain is yong it's not really good to make it experience horror movies or drunkness when it's young (i think the brain isn't "adult" unltil the age of 25, correct me if i'm wrong), most laws are there to protect us.

 

 

 

gonna sleep now, sorry for this reply.

[sohkmj1]

although i'm not sure what your final question is about, i'll just try to answer it anyway.

 

If you popped over to any Asian country, you'd see toy guns, weapons for the younger children. Do you ever see toy condoms, or kiddie magazines which promote porn sites? Violence is everywhere, from stepping on cockroaches, to blasting the big boys with an assault rifle. Hell, a 7 year old watching cartoons is easily influenced, as there might be stuff like freaks of nature attacking another with weird attacks (Pokemon). Sex is well... I mean, is it possible to have sex at 7?

[Ouchy]

I have no controls on my Laptop, seeing as my parents trust me. They know what I get up to on the computer (Which is deviantART, Tip.It, and other stuff), so they don't need to block it. And if they did, I'd just get around it ;)

[Nom]

I mean sex is pleasurable. It's the reason why we still exist and it's constructive where violence is destructive.

 

 

 

Did no one else notice this? He throws up a strawman before the argument even starts.

[PoorLepRecon]

Parental Controls Thread

 

 

 

I made a thread on this back in August. Try the search button ;)

 

 

 

I don't believe parental controls are necessary once people pass a certain age. They also need to not be so sensitive. An innocent page can get blocked for something that seems to be innapropriate.

[Lenin64]

Parental Controls Thread

 

 

 

I made a thread on this back in August. Try the search button ;)

 

August? Whoa there, Tiger, step back down here. That's a way outdated thread by now.

 

 

 

I used to have parental controls. They were completely stupid; random sites were blocked (such as various, completely fine pages of Halopedia, while others worked perfectly), and there was a seperate, uncontrolled browser available as well. Needless to say I used that often, though occasioanlly I would be reprimanded for it. But then when I downloaded Firefox the whole issue just evaporated somehow.

[deloriagod]

I've never been troubled by parental controls. By the time I was 15 my dad didn't even bother to tell me to stop looking at porn. Before that he only told me not to because I was foolish and managed to get plenty of spyware/viruses on my computer.

[The Dark Lord]

I hate parental controls, especially internet filters. There are some things on the internet that can emotionally harm a young child and I would understand why parents would block those sorts of things. However, I think it's more effective to just keep all computers in a central location than to use an often poorly-designed internet filter program.

 

 

 

The filters at school aren't too terribly difficult to bypass. Hell, you could bypass some of them by clicking a link a certain way. The other downside is that they also block useful information that is needed for schoolwork. Every now and then, a student discovers an unblocked, free proxy site and uses it to bypass the filter. I think it's hilarious that a few students were able to successfully install Halo for PC onto all of the computers in one of the computer labs. With the school's computer system, the program couldn't be permanently deleted, even if uninstalled. The program would just come back after the computer was restarted. It's funny because we are able to play an M-rated, military-style game while certain sites are blocked for no good reason. It just proves how mediocre most public schools are when it comes to networking and internet.

 

 

 

I am, for the most part, opposed to censorship. However, when cases involve child abuse, threat of violence, and denying a person a proper education, it inevitably must be used. A child should not have to be the victim of radical indoctrination. Children should be able to develop their own beliefs. They should not have to believe something just because their parents believe in it. An example of this would have to be religious fundamentalists. They usually indoctrinate their children into believing very twisted things. Depending upon the severity, the child might be emotionally scarred. Terroristic threatening should not be allowed because it instills fear into a person's mind. It is often used as a form of suppression or intimidation. Finally, an individual should not be denied a proper education. In countries such as the United States, especially the southern region, teachers and other staff members preach to their students instead of teaching proper curriculum and/or doing their job. Individuals have the right to freedom of religion, but others have the right to freedom from religion. This also applies to teachers who force their politics on their students as well. Basically the aforementioned items that I oppose can be used to suppress ideas: Indoctrination can prevent someone from forming their own ideas, threats can be used to keep someone from speaking out or voicing their opinions, and teachers who preach to their students instead of doing their job can violate a person's right to a proper education and compromise a person's freedom of/from certain beliefs. Of course, the latter doesn't mean that the teacher cannot be religious or have any political views. The teacher just can't force them on their students, especially when they are supposed to be teaching something else. This would include mandatory prayer, proselytizing, and telling students to affiliate with a certain political party and/or vote a certain way.

[Will H]

I've never been victim to controls, but frankly it's up to the parent to allow their child any access to the Internet at all until they reach the age of consent.

[Flodder450]

I dont have any parental controls on the comps here

 

We dont even have a filter at school\funny story my teacher told us once:The previous Rector at my school had said during a meeting:"It's impossible now tgo watch porn at school now!"

 

so my teacher told his class at the time:"The fun is over guys!No more porn"

 

so one of his students said "O really?I bet over a Mars,that i can find a porn site in less then 5 minutes!"

 

"okay!" my teacher said

 

30 seconds later:A porn site

[Furah]

I dont have any parental controls on the comps here

 

We dont even have a filter at school\funny story my teacher told us once:The previous Rector at my school had said during a meeting:"It's impossible now tgo watch porn at school now!"

 

so my teacher told his class at the time:"The fun is over guys!No more porn"

 

so one of his students said "O really?I bet over a Mars,that i can find a porn site in less then 5 minutes!"

 

"okay!" my teacher said

 

30 seconds later:A porn site

 

 

 

lol, they should find out if doing an image search on google works (I won't try, no gain for me...)

[cadburys_egg]

Add idiotic sites like the random section of 4chan ... tl;dr

 

About a year or two ago, I wouldve agreed. It used to be somewhere that anything would go, but nowadays its barely risque. Its been overrun by 12 year olds with "HURR AM EYE HAWT?" or "POST ENDING IN 0 HAS TO BE AN HERO WITH PICS LOL" who seemingly think that spewing out dated memes and stupid phrases from yesteryear to be high-larious.

 

That is, of course, unless you mean to say that copypasta and reposts are deemed worthy of scarring a child for life.

 

 

 

Parental controls are fickle. Unless you get a really 'devoted' parent to trawl the internet hourly and update a list of websites to their hosts.txt or something, theres always going to be one website too many to block. And even then its pretty easy to get past 90% of these programs that advertise "Child proof safety!* [*Unless your child is over 3]" for stupid parents who think itll make the internet a better place for their absolute saint, wouldnt-harm-or-[bleep]-to-a-fly child prodigy.

 

 

 

I used to have such controls when I was small. They werent very good and they blocked the most obvious of websites, but because they were 'off-limits' it just provoked me. "Get past me, you know you want to" it would taunt me. And so it did. So I did. I purposefully went around it just to sit there all smug with a grin on my face saying that nothing will be held from me. Then, a few years later, when we updated and such, the block wasnt there. I was unrestricted. This just left me with no challenge or purpose, no real reason to visit such websites. Which meant I didnt. I cant remember what this reaction or psychological thing is of "You cant have it, therefore you want it more" is, but thats all these blocks will do. Creating boundaries only creates ways of getting over them.

[gedboy2112]

Well maybe Taboo's need to be lifted on such subject', I agree with the post above me a 3 year old should not see porn but what about a 4 year old watching robocop 2? What's wrong with a 11-13 year old wanting to jack off to some porn? Methinks that if there is ANY censorship with a perantal control's then they need to block more violence and less sex. There are way's to remotley control a computer from another computer. I have one called PC anywhere that I use for file transfer's with my mom's comp and she sometimes take's a look at what I am doing.

 

I am perfectley fine with that. She's told me that she's fine with me looking at porn late at night or something one she's not up. I guess that growing up in a liberal family is sorta nice.

 

For the record my mom makes the argument that porn give's kid's a flawd idea of what sex look's like. it makes them think that everyone's body is perfect.

[anonymous1234]

Well maybe Taboo's need to be lifted on such subject', I agree with the post above me a 3 year old should not see porn but what about a 4 year old watching robocop 2? What's wrong with a 11-13 year old wanting to jack off to some porn? Methinks that if there is ANY censorship with a perantal control's then they need to block more violence and less sex. There are way's to remotley control a computer from another computer. I have one called PC anywhere that I use for file transfer's with my mom's comp and she sometimes take's a look at what I am doing.

 

I am perfectley fine with that. She's told me that she's fine with me looking at porn late at night or something one she's not up. I guess that growing up in a liberal family is sorta nice.

 

For the record my mom makes the argument that porn give's kid's a flawd idea of what sex look's like. it makes them think that everyone's body is perfect.

 

Everybody's body isn't perfect? I guess now I'm the only one I can be sure about.

[Roberthree]

I dont have any parental controls on the comps here

 

We dont even have a filter at school\funny story my teacher told us once:The previous Rector at my school had said during a meeting:"It's impossible now tgo watch porn at school now!"

 

so my teacher told his class at the time:"The fun is over guys!No more porn"

 

so one of his students said "O really?I bet over a Mars,that i can find a porn site in less then 5 minutes!"

 

"okay!" my teacher said

 

30 seconds later:A porn site

 

 

 

lol, they should find out if doing an image search on google works (I won't try, no gain for me...)

 

 

 

Haha, that remind me of a time I wanted to show a friend a FF7 spoof comic. Couldn't remember the URL so I just typed in "Tifa Comic" and turned off the google filter cause the comic had swears. You see where this is going.

 

 

 

Also one of my teachers wanted to show the class a youtube video but he accidentally (Maybe out of habit? lol) typed in xtube.

[magmaguard3]

My Parents don't use parental controls either. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: