Foxtrot17 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Is it possible for a life-form with a circulatory system to use a compound other than FeO2 or CuO2 to transport oxygen through the body? (Such as AgO2 or SiO2) Veni, vidi, vici - Julius Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalboy5 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Is it possible for a life-form with a circulatory system to use a compound other than FeO2 or CuO2 to transport oxygen through the body? (Such as AgO2 or SiO2) Is it possible for any other living thing to breathe with the help of FeO3 or CUO2 to help your breathe oxygen?(such as AG02 OR Si02)? fix'd lol :^o Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sure why not? "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Is it possible for a life-form with a circulatory system to use a compound other than FeO2 or CuO2 to transport oxygen through the body? (Such as AgO2 or SiO2) Is it possible for any other living thing to breathe with the help of FeO3 or CUO2 to help your breathe oxygen?(such as AG02 OR Si02)? fix'd lol :^oI don't think that's what he was asking. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot17 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Actually, we use FeO2 which is in hemoglobin to transport Oxygen through the Body. Veni, vidi, vici - Julius Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot17 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sure why not? I don't need sarcasm. Get out. Veni, vidi, vici - Julius Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalboy5 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sure why not? I don't need sarcasm. Get out. Dude you need to dumb it down a little, prove us with a link with information, educate us on what your even asking! Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot17 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemoglobin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalloprotein#Oxygen_carriers I was speculating on whether something other than hemoglobin and the other listed oxygen binding and transportation agents could have/be used. Veni, vidi, vici - Julius Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I would not be sure if this is possible. Warrior is the guy to ask. If he is around maybe he will see your post and let you know. BTW, for those going WTF?, what the man here is asking is if there are other compounds then the mentioned ones, that allow for the transport of oxygen in the blood system (I.e. Fe02 binds with oxygen as it passes through with your lungs, then carrying it through your blood system). Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingjj Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well, I would say no for SiO2 as its a metalloid, and I would guess that most elements would encounter a problem with having the proper oxidation states for the binding reaction to occur, as well as size of atoms being an issue. Iron and copper obviously have the proper oxidation states, and are relatively small atoms. That being said, one of the wikipedia articles you posted stated that there was one type of metal oxygen carrier thing that is hypothesized to use some rare metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Oh well I thought he was saying can other organisms use another system of function; like must all life breath 02? And I say "Sure why not?". "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infi Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 There are more oxygen carrying compounds and substances than you think. There are lots of them, and you can easily search it on the internet. However one that comes to mind is polyHb-SOD-catalase, which reduces free radicals and cleanses the blood as well as carrying oxygen at the same time. 99 Hits, Attack, Strength, Defence, Mage, Summoning, Slayer, Ranged, 96/99 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 You need the ionic bonding that comes with metals to allow for proper transfer of oxygen (if I remember correctly). A covalent bond like SiO2 would not easily release the oxygen where it is needed, and silver just isn't in the body/things we eat. Why do you give a damn though? Are you looking for homework help or are you just a nerd? [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot17 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 The Latter. Veni, vidi, vici - Julius Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Warrior!! You're needed!! :P The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgedThesis Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I would go with the 'sure, why not' response too. You can't speculate on these things based on how life is here (i.e, "not silver, because it's not in our diet"), because there is a ridiculous amount of evolutionary possibilities out there somewhere. You can't chart for all of the possible circulatory systems possible, or even if they utilize oxygen. Unless he was talking about life-forms specifically here on Earth, in which case, yeah--we need Warrior. But I don't want to go among mad people!Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Warrior!! You're needed!! :P Well, I could make some sweeping generalisations about what's required of the metal ion, but I don't really know the answer to the question. I'm sure there's some info out there on the affinity of given metal ions for oxygen and CO2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I dont see why it wouldnt be possible, theres a lot of metals and im sure a few could transport oxygen in some form. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Oxygen carrying through another substance than Fe, yes. That is possible. Though I don't think there are organisms that possess a circulatory system that actually use different compounds. Carrying the oxygen from the respiratory system to the periphery is an extremely complex process which does not involve "just" the binding of O2 to a hemoglobin (in our case) molecule. It's a very delicate balance which involves CO2, O2, Ph, pressure, solvability, saturation, etc. Using an other compound would destroy the characteristics of our oxygen carrying. Binding would be different which would have its effects on the balance we have in our bodies. For example, a higher O2 binding capability would mean less O2 release in the periphery, meaning more [CO2], thus increasing acidity in the body which would have a lot of effects on metabolism and may cause death. Changing the compound means changing the body chemistry. It won't work for us, unless we change the chemistry along with it, which will not happen. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomy Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Aw man I keep clicking on this thread then feeling stupid :wall: Doomy edit: I like sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Oxygen carrying through another substance than Fe, yes. That is possible. Though I don't think there are organisms that possess a circulatory system that actually use different compounds. Which makes space exploration so exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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