overrated and unfunny comedians

[Nadril]

From what I've seen people either love Bill hicks or hate him. I've never seen his standup so I don't really have an opinion though.

[warri0r45]

I love Bill Hicks. Probably my favourite comedian of all time, along with George Carlin.

[Quoi_Tu]

Beside the comics already mentioned, I find a lot of women comics to be pretty bad and usually especially vulgar. I don't know what it is, but I have yet to see a good female comedian. I guess there just aren't that many of them.

 

 

 

On a happier note, new favorite comedian:

 

 

*Warning: it is economics humor some of which needs economics knowledge to get.*

[Nadril]

I think a lot of female comedians just try and do the whole "look at me I'm a woman yet I'm crass and crude like a man!" routine.

[Maleficus1055]

Beside the comics already mentioned, I find a lot of women comics to be pretty bad and usually especially vulgar. I don't know what it is, but I have yet to see a good female comedian. I guess there just aren't that many of them.

 

 

 

On a happier note, new favorite comedian:

 

 

*Warning: it is economics humor some of which needs economics knowledge to get.*

 

 

 

I have the same feeling about female comics *coughLisaLampanellicough*

 

 

 

On the contrary of this topic, Dana Carvey has become one of my new favorite comedians.

[Infi]

Most of the comedians from the show Last Comic Standing makes me cringe...

 

I'm not sure how people manage to laugh from some of the material from that show :?

[warri0r45]

From what little I've seen of his material (and perhaps this a premature judgement here) I'd have to say Bob Saget is one of the worst comedians I've seen. His routine just doesn't seem to have any substance apart from mindless vulgarity over and over again.

[AdioLovesSquall]

Dane Cook / Bill Hicks.

 

 

 

In a 2005 poll to find The Comedian's Comedian, fellow comedians and comedy insiders voted Hicks amongst the "Top 20 Greatest Comedy Acts Ever" at #13. Likewise, in "Comedy Central Presents: 100 Greatest Stand-ups of All Time" (2004), Hicks was ranked at #19. In March 2007, Channel 4 (UK) ran a poll, "The Top 100 Stand-Up Comedians of All Time," in which Hicks was voted #6

 

 

 

Yeah, Bill Hicks was terrible.

 

 

 

 

 

Are these the same lists that rate Chris Rock amongst the top 5 comedians ever? lol. Lay off, you're not proving anything with all of these lists. I could've just said Dane Cook and held back my disdain for Bill Hicks, but then this topic would be just a bunch of Dane Cook replies, no?

[Lateralus]

I think a lot of female comedians just try and do the whole "look at me I'm a woman yet I'm crass and crude like a man!" routine.

 

 

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/featu ... hens200701

 

 

 

 

Hitchens is the man.

[Range_This11]

 

Are these the same lists that rate Chris Rock amongst the top 5 comedians ever? lol. Lay off, you're not proving anything with all of these lists. I could've just said Dane Cook and held back my disdain for Bill Hicks, but then this topic would be just a bunch of Dane Cook replies, no?

 

I find it quite funny how you justify almost all of your arguments on here by using "lol" unless you get called out on the topic. Using a deliberately out of place acronym doesn't make what you have to say any more true. You don't use any logic at all. I don't understand how you can have such disdain for a comedian who challenged his audience to use their heads and question norms along with authority while delivering it in a distinctly unique way.

[AdioLovesSquall]

 

Are these the same lists that rate Chris Rock amongst the top 5 comedians ever? lol. Lay off, you're not proving anything with all of these lists. I could've just said Dane Cook and held back my disdain for Bill Hicks, but then this topic would be just a bunch of Dane Cook replies, no?

 

I find it quite funny how you justify almost all of your arguments on here by using "lol" unless you get called out on the topic. Using a deliberately out of place acronym doesn't make what you have to say any more true. You don't use any logic at all. I don't understand how you can have such disdain for a comedian who challenged his audience to use their heads and question norms along with authority while delivering it in a distinctly unique way.

 

 

 

Well, you see, I'm always right. My validity isn't locked in by these bounds of logic, I'm just always right. I just used 'lol' because you used a list that placed chris rock at the number 5/100 of the best comedians of all time. read the post and its context...regardless, bill hicks doesn't strike me as funny. i always use my head when it comes to things [even comedy!] and frankly, i don't need someone [especially some liberal, yes, his political leanings were annoying and he cried too much] regurgitating what i know about authority and Christianity (although the dinosaur skit is okay) [it might be fair to know that stand-up comedians usually come to fail for me, i hate mitch hedberg too] and yay ultra-cynical delivery blah blah blah, whatever, unimpressive. shame he's dead though.

[Range_This11]

 

Well, you see, I'm always right. My validity isn't locked in by these bounds of logic, I'm just always right. I just used 'lol' because you used a list that placed chris rock at the number 5/100 of the best comedians of all time. read the post and its context...regardless, bill hicks doesn't strike me as funny. i always use my head when it comes to things [even comedy!] and frankly, i don't need someone [especially some liberal, yes, his political leanings were annoying and he cried too much] regurgitating what i know about authority and Christianity (although the dinosaur skit is okay) [it might be fair to know that stand-up comedians usually come to fail for me, i hate mitch hedberg too] and yay ultra-cynical delivery blah blah blah, whatever, unimpressive. shame he's dead though.

 

Most of those lists were compiled by comedy critics and fellow comedians, not the average trailer-park viewer. It doesn't matter if you don't need someone else to tell you about authority and Christianity, the fact that he challenges it to a mainstream audience is where respect comes in. You don't have to like him to respect him. Just the same as in music. I hate a lot of bands, but I can respect them for their talent. His ultra-cynical delivery reminds me of your ultra-cynical delivery in every post; unimpressive.

[AdioLovesSquall]

 

Well, you see, I'm always right. My validity isn't locked in by these bounds of logic, I'm just always right. I just used 'lol' because you used a list that placed chris rock at the number 5/100 of the best comedians of all time. read the post and its context...regardless, bill hicks doesn't strike me as funny. i always use my head when it comes to things [even comedy!] and frankly, i don't need someone [especially some liberal, yes, his political leanings were annoying and he cried too much] regurgitating what i know about authority and Christianity (although the dinosaur skit is okay) [it might be fair to know that stand-up comedians usually come to fail for me, i hate mitch hedberg too] and yay ultra-cynical delivery blah blah blah, whatever, unimpressive. shame he's dead though.

 

Most of those lists were compiled by comedy critics and fellow comedians, not the average trailer-park viewer. It doesn't matter if you don't need someone else to tell you about authority and Christianity, the fact that he challenges it to a mainstream audience is where respect comes in. You don't have to like him to respect him. Just the same as in music. I hate a lot of bands, but I can respect them for their talent. His ultra-cynical delivery reminds me of your ultra-cynical delivery in every post; unimpressive.

 

 

 

The list still sucks - I do have respect for him, I haven't called him terrible [although I refuse to speak bad of dead people, but even if he was alive, I doubt I'd be calling him TERRIBLE], I just think he's unfunny and overrated [as the topic title says] and stop saying how "challenging" it is. I doubt comedy was brain-dead before Bill Hicks came in. shoot, even this medieval play is hilarious, but - okay whatever, you have some far leftist come in with some cynical attitude who complains about everything...even the wafflehouse workers...[ironic, no?]. I think books would've been a better medium for him. So please, stop with the unsubtle insults [my posts aren't even cynical] - but, WAIT! You like that sort of stuff! ooh maybe that was a quip towards liking my posts a lot..oooooo...I HAVE A SECRET ADMIRER!

 

 

 

[Nadril]

Range, he never said he didn't respect the man, he just didn't like his stand up. :?

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/featu ... hens200701

 

 

 

 

Hitchens is the man.

 

 

 

Interesting.

[Range_This11]

 

The list still sucks - I do have respect for him, I haven't called him terrible [although I refuse to speak bad of dead people, but even if he was alive, I doubt I'd be calling him TERRIBLE], I just think he's unfunny and overrated [as the topic title says] and stop saying how "challenging" it is. I doubt comedy was brain-dead before Bill Hicks came in. shoot, even this medieval play is hilarious, but - okay whatever, you have some far leftist come in with some cynical attitude who complains about everything...even the wafflehouse workers...[ironic, no?]. I think books would've been a better medium for him. So please, stop with the unsubtle insults [my posts aren't even cynical] - but, WAIT! You like that sort of stuff! ooh maybe that was a quip towards liking my posts a lot..oooooo...I HAVE A SECRET ADMIRER!

 

 

 

 

Once again you prove your immaturity and lack of logical reasoning when it comes to presenting an argument. First off, don't try to compare stand-up comedy from the early 1990s to the likes of a piece written during the Middle Ages, that's just way too much of a stretch. Sure I understand that you don't like cynicism, but when Hicks was in his prime, the comedy world was swamped with idiots like Andrew Dice Clay that told nothing but mind numbing, vulgar half punch-line jokes that were solely for shock value. Now put someone on the scene that has actually thought about their comedy more than using vulgarity, and you have someone that becomes a great comedian. Aside from George Carlin and maybe a couple others, no one was saying those types of things even 20 years before his time. You only see them as being regurgitated because in our day and age, they are, but 20 years ago, those weren't too common on the air waves like they are now. Bill Hicks isn't the whiny little baby that constantly cries about how messed up the world was like you portray him. Hicks was simply criticizing the fallacies that are present in our society. Whether you want to interpret that as being "whiny baby" is up to you, but I severely feel bad for you if that's all you can pull out of his stand-up.

[Saru Inc]

Beside the comics already mentioned, I find a lot of women comics to be pretty bad and usually especially vulgar. I don't know what it is, but I have yet to see a good female comedian. I guess there just aren't that many of them.

 

 

 

On a happier note, new favorite comedian:

 

 

*Warning: it is economics humor some of which needs economics knowledge to get.*

 

 

 

 

 

A good one is Kathleen Madigan.

 

 

 

And to Zieero on page 1, you do know that doesn't actually mean that? But back in the day it was polite to say. Just throwin that out there; my Atheist friends usually think it's religious propaganda. :s

[How2PK]

I don't think there is a single stand-up comedian that makes me laugh. I can't stand them. The most irritating has got to be Jeff Dunham though. There's a huge hype about this guy here, and I can not stand it. Every where you look there is a picture of that [bleep]ing dead terrorist, on every corner of the street there's a kid yelling "Silence, I kill you!" and I can't get trough a day at work without atleast three grown-ups (!!!) coming at me saying that he is so funny.

[warri0r45]

I don't think there is a single stand-up comedian that makes me laugh. I can't stand them. The most irritating has got to be Jeff Dunham though. There's a huge hype about this guy here, and I can not stand it. Every where you look there is a picture of that [bleep] dead terrorist, on every corner of the street there's a kid yelling "Silence, I kill you!" and I can't get trough a day at work without atleast three grown-ups (!!!) coming at me saying that he is so funny.

 

 

 

I'd have to agree, I've seen the routine and it didn't really get a laugh out of me at all.

[AdioLovesSquall]

 

The list still sucks - I do have respect for him, I haven't called him terrible [although I refuse to speak bad of dead people, but even if he was alive, I doubt I'd be calling him TERRIBLE], I just think he's unfunny and overrated [as the topic title says] and stop saying how "challenging" it is. I doubt comedy was brain-dead before Bill Hicks came in. shoot, even this medieval play is hilarious, but - okay whatever, you have some far leftist come in with some cynical attitude who complains about everything...even the wafflehouse workers...[ironic, no?]. I think books would've been a better medium for him. So please, stop with the unsubtle insults [my posts aren't even cynical] - but, WAIT! You like that sort of stuff! ooh maybe that was a quip towards liking my posts a lot..oooooo...I HAVE A SECRET ADMIRER!

 

 

 

 

Once again you prove your immaturity and lack of logical reasoning when it comes to presenting an argument. First off, don't try to compare stand-up comedy from the early 1990s to the likes of a piece written during the Middle Ages, that's just way too much of a stretch. Sure I understand that you don't like cynicism, but when Hicks was in his prime, the comedy world was swamped with idiots like Andrew Dice Clay that told nothing but mind numbing, vulgar half punch-line jokes that were solely for shock value. Now put someone on the scene that has actually thought about their comedy more than using vulgarity, and you have someone that becomes a great comedian. Aside from George Carlin and maybe a couple others, no one was saying those types of things even 20 years before his time. You only see them as being regurgitated because in our day and age, they are, but 20 years ago, those weren't too common on the air waves like they are now. Bill Hicks isn't the whiny little baby that constantly cries about how messed up the world was like you portray him. Hicks was simply criticizing the fallacies that are present in our society. Whether you want to interpret that as being "whiny baby" is up to you, but I severely feel bad for you if that's all you can pull out of his stand-up.

 

 

 

look secret admirer, it pretty much is. i sure that if you look deep enough [like with music], yes yes, i understand, he broke mainstream, and you know what? i told you before, I gave due respect [you did tell me I didn't have to like him], but everytime i explain a reason not to like him, it's the same stuff from you, admirer. "you have no logic" - err, i'm afraid i don't need logic, stand-up is highly boring and face it, bill hicks falls in that same trap. anyways, it was an extreme, yes, but that piece from the middle ages was meant to represent that comedy has been "deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep" since the middle ages, in all forms. hell, that piece from the middle ages was some sort of church drama meant to portray church lessons to peasants, but hey, look at someone like the aforementioned george carlin for someone doing bill hicks before bill hicks [not a fan of him either]. much like your bill hicks was trying to "enlighten" his audience. anyways, admirer, its a big honour to have you explain him to me, but on this side of the world, i just can't interpret all his complaining and whining in a way that makes him seem valiant. maybe i'd know where he was coming from if i was from the US, but no worries, admirer, you tried, and you tried hard.

[How2PK]

What does it feel like to be admired, Adio?

[blushenka]

Don't think Bill Hicks is well described by the term 'comedian'. He doesn't make you roll on the floor laughing, most of the stuff he says is just clever, witty stuff, that leaves you thinking. Come to think of it, most of the stuff he says is uncomfortable enough to make him unpopular with the crowds, so he's definitely not your average kind of comedian who hires people to laugh at his more or less lame jokes, in various corners of the room, in the hopes that others can join in. I think classic stand up comedy as such is fairly lame, but I saw some nice routines. Eddie Izzard is an example, has some fun ones. Jerry Seinfeld. Etc. However, most of them try too hard and the amount of effort involved is too high compared to the effect.

[dragoonson]

I love Seinfeld.His show is how I was named.If I had been Murphy I might hate him,but I'm not.So I love him.

[AdioLovesSquall]

What does it feel like to be admired, Adio?

 

 

 

It's a warm feeling. Although I get a rather cold feeling from this one. :(

[aquariusman]

Love how everyones hatin on Dane. go watch The Athiests Sneeze and tell me you didnt laugh.

 

I laughed, but not enough to be worth the 9 minute video I had to watch. 3 chuckles from the entire thing.

[Jaziek]

Frankie boyle is overrated. Nowhere near as funny as people make him out to be, and similarly Jimmy Carr. (coincidence? I think not.)

 

Lee evans. I like him, and I can enjoy his shows, I appreciate his style, but I just dont think he's as brilliant as he's made out to be either.

 

Peter kay is great, and Jason manford has a similar style, and is just as good.

 

And whoever said Dara O'Briain was overrated - You're just plain wrong. Barely anybody has seen his live stuff, and just goes off mock the week. His stand up is infinitely better than mock the week. His audience involvement goes beyond any other comic I've seen, and his jokes manage to maintain a great level of intelligence without coming off as being cynical or whiney *cough* Carlin *cough* Hicks *Cough*.