March 13, 200917 yr Reminds me of the Gerudo tribe of Ocarina Of Timei just automatically assumed they were [bleep] and slept with any traveler who passed by I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come
March 14, 200917 yr Reminds me of the Gerudo tribe of Ocarina Of Timei just automatically assumed they were [bleep] and slept with any traveler who passed by I didn't know how babies were made then : But they had Ganondorf, no? This is very interesting. Too bad it's Friday, I'd like to ask my bio teacher (the one I had the alien nightmare about, who is now my spring track coach) more about it :-k
March 14, 200917 yr Genomic imprinting pretty much makes parthenogenesis in humans impossible. It's basically how the genes in eggs are stamped as "motherly", and sperm as "fatherly". This is backed up by the fact that, depending on whether there is a deletion from the mother or the fathers chromosome in the chromosome pair 15, there are 2 different disorders. Angelman's and prae-der-wili syndrome i believe are the disorders. TLDR: a zygote will not develop even if two perfectly healthy eggs fertilize one another. In humans, anyways.
March 14, 200917 yr Genomic imprinting pretty much makes parthenogenesis in humans impossible. It's basically how the genes in eggs are stamped as "motherly", and sperm as "fatherly". This is backed up by the fact that, depending on whether there is a deletion from the mother or the fathers chromosome in the chromosome pair 15, there are 2 different disorders. Angelman's and prae-der-wili syndrome i believe are the disorders. TLDR: a zygote will not develop even if two perfectly healthy eggs fertilize one another. In humans, anyways. That, and there's a lot more to fertilizing an egg that makes parthenogenesis impossible. Just another example is the fact that the entry point of the sperm cell into the egg cell determines in what "direction" the organism will develop. And much more about embryogenesis is still elusive. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science
March 14, 200917 yr Author Genomic imprinting pretty much makes parthenogenesis in humans impossible. It's basically how the genes in eggs are stamped as "motherly", and sperm as "fatherly". This is backed up by the fact that, depending on whether there is a deletion from the mother or the fathers chromosome in the chromosome pair 15, there are 2 different disorders. Angelman's and prae-der-wili syndrome i believe are the disorders. TLDR: a zygote will not develop even if two perfectly healthy eggs fertilize one another. In humans, anyways. That, and there's a lot more to fertilizing an egg that makes parthenogenesis impossible. Just another example is the fact that the entry point of the sperm cell into the egg cell determines in what "direction" the organism will develop. And much more about embryogenesis is still elusive. Most of the sperm isn't a full sperm anyways.
March 16, 200917 yr in all the things in life that are fun to do one in particular stands out and makes every one nod in appreciation towards the act of making a baby. So some guy just decided to say i'm going to make babies without the fun part. Hold on... isn't that what making babies is all about (kinda)? you get to a: create a lifeform that has the dna similar to yours and your partners, and b: you have loads of fun doing it *pun intended*. I guess the most ideal human society is the one where every one is communist, conforms, doesn't get corrupted, has a mother father, has fun by churning butter (literally churning butter), and makes babies without having to take any clothing off. why are the most intelligent people the most insane? Wow, watching this thread is better than pro wrestling! =D>This thread is probably better than pro wrestling because the fights here are real (And the boobs).
March 16, 200917 yr Genomic imprinting pretty much makes parthenogenesis in humans impossible. It's basically how the genes in eggs are stamped as "motherly", and sperm as "fatherly". This is backed up by the fact that, depending on whether there is a deletion from the mother or the fathers chromosome in the chromosome pair 15, there are 2 different disorders. Angelman's and prae-der-wili syndrome i believe are the disorders. TLDR: a zygote will not develop even if two perfectly healthy eggs fertilize one another. In humans, anyways. Cool, someone studying what I am. :) From what I know, you're right - imprinting makes the idea of parthenogenesis pretty much impossible. The only mechanism I know of that would lead to parthenogenesis in humans is called uniparental diploidy, which is where both sets of chromosomes are inherited from one parent. The problem here is that (as you pointed out) there is either a maternal or paternal imprinting pattern on various genes which means they are methylated and thereby inactivated. Without either the maternal or paternal set of chromosomes, there is no set of non-imprinted genes for the corresponding set of imprinted genes, so gene function is compromised. Given how commonplace imprinting is, the zygote does not develop into a viable human. You're also right with deletions on 15 causing Angelman's or Prader-Willi syndrome, of course depending on whether the deletions are on the maternal or paternal chromosome. Interesting stuff!
March 16, 200917 yr Reminds me of the Gerudo tribe of Ocarina Of Time Lol, that's what first came to my mind as well. =P
March 16, 200917 yr Reminds me of the Gerudo tribe of Ocarina Of Time Lol, that's what first came to my mind as well. =P offtopic; i dont like your sig. bawksy is evil I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come
March 17, 200917 yr It's never actually happened though, right? its never been recorded, but its possible it happened and was missed. If the woman was married and trying to get pregnant, miscarriages etc. plenty of ways it could have happened without being noticed Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed.
March 18, 200917 yr So if women just keep producing X amount of babies that are all female, the male species will die out? They don't need men at all. Well this is given that this is happening and all women can do this. Which is not the case lol.
March 18, 200917 yr Kool Can't some type of frogs do this? Parthogenesis happens in mammals, though. (That's what the OP said)
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