Strip Searching A Thirteen Year Old

[Zierro]

Look, it does not matter if the drug was Ibuprofen, marijuana, or meth.

 

 

 

It doesn't? Hmmm, I fail to see how the idea of disregarding your priorities is a good one.

 

 

 

If they seriously need to fix a headache problem every nurse I've been to since middle school had her own supply of Tylenol.

 

 

 

Or you can skip the nurse step, making it more convenient for you and the nurse, and the result will ultimately be the same. Again, the argument goes back to "then you can sue if that step is skipped" but this is just a second issue that needs to be addressed. So whether the child took the pills on school or at home the result would still be the same. The only difference is the whole suing hubbub, which you fail to realize is a problem within itself.

 

 

 

There is no reason for anybody to bring any form of drug into the school.

 

 

 

There is no reason for the nurse to regulate something like that. Should we have peanuts and cherries regulated too because some people have allergic reactions? What about pens?

 

 

 

PS: I hate the idea of living my life within the bounds of a machine.

[Giordano]

 

I wouldn't be a fan of the inconveniences attached to going to the nurse's office just to take my pill which I presumably have been taking regularly without any bad side effects. Plus I have never heard of such a rule. You can't honestly think that it's a good idea to make teens liable for going up to the office every time they have something minor like a headache. School is the only place where I've heard of such a ridiculous rule. No one else seems to freak out when they see you holding ibuprofen. The school goes straight to assuming that a kid's hearsay about drugs = automatic death.

 

Look, it does not matter if the drug was Ibuprofen, marijuana, or meth. If they seriously need to fix a headache problem every nurse I've been to since middle school had her own supply of Tylenol. There is no reason for anybody to bring any form of drug into the school.

 

Not when the nurses are pains in the [wagon]. [bleep] to us when we enter at our school. At 13 if we still need the school to take care of us then the school itself has to wake up. So what if I bring some Aspirin? So what I take the entire capsule. So what if I get drugged? If the courts can fix suing the school for everything, we wouldn't have any of these problems.

[Riku3220]

Look, it does not matter if the drug was Ibuprofen, marijuana, or meth.

 

 

 

It doesn't? Hmmm, I fail to see how the idea of disregarding your priorities is a good one.

 

No type of drug is alowed in the school.

 

If they seriously need to fix a headache problem every nurse I've been to since middle school had her own supply of Tylenol.

 

 

 

Or you can skip the nurse step, making it more convenient for you and the nurse, and the result will ultimately be the same. Again, the argument goes back to "then you can sue if that step is skipped" but this is just a second issue that needs to be addressed.

 

Convenience? Really? I guess we should take out stop lights and stop signs as well because that'd make it more convenient. :roll:

 

There is no reason for anybody to bring any form of drug into the school.

 

 

 

There is no reason for the nurse to regulate something like that. Should we have peanuts and cherries regulated too because some people have allergic reactions? What about pens?

 

Schools do regulate peanuts already. In some schools you can't eat a PB&J sandwich, and while I don't agree with banning peanut butter regulating medicine use has more benefits than not doing it.

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't be a fan of the inconveniences attached to going to the nurse's office just to take my pill which I presumably have been taking regularly without any bad side effects. Plus I have never heard of such a rule. You can't honestly think that it's a good idea to make teens liable for going up to the office every time they have something minor like a headache. School is the only place where I've heard of such a ridiculous rule. No one else seems to freak out when they see you holding ibuprofen. The school goes straight to assuming that a kid's hearsay about drugs = automatic death.

 

Look, it does not matter if the drug was Ibuprofen, marijuana, or meth. If they seriously need to fix a headache problem every nurse I've been to since middle school had her own supply of Tylenol. There is no reason for anybody to bring any form of drug into the school.

 

Not when the nurses are pains in the [wagon]. [bleep] to us when we enter at our school. At 13 if we still need the school to take care of us then the school itself has to wake up. So what if I bring some Aspirin? So what I take the entire capsule. So what if I get drugged? If the courts can fix suing the school for everything, we wouldn't have any of these problems.

 

What does the nurse's attitude towards you have to do with anything?

 

 

 

Parent's can't watch their kids 24/7 you know. So in those 7 hours the school has their children they rely on the school to keep them protected. Parents are of course going to sue if their child does something stupid that could've been prevented.

[Kiriyama]

 

I wouldn't be a fan of the inconveniences attached to going to the nurse's office just to take my pill which I presumably have been taking regularly without any bad side effects. Plus I have never heard of such a rule. You can't honestly think that it's a good idea to make teens liable for going up to the office every time they have something minor like a headache. School is the only place where I've heard of such a ridiculous rule. No one else seems to freak out when they see you holding ibuprofen. The school goes straight to assuming that a kid's hearsay about drugs = automatic death.

 

Look, it does not matter if the drug was Ibuprofen, marijuana, or meth. If they seriously need to fix a headache problem every nurse I've been to since middle school had her own supply of Tylenol. There is no reason for anybody to bring any form of drug into the school.

 

 

 

Works differently here.

 

 

 

Essentially, if we needed something, we'd have to go down to the school office, and its likely they have to call home to check with your parents.

 

 

 

Waste of friggin' time since they do it EVERY time. Its even more inconvient when the parents are out, as they have to try other contact numbers. Of course, its not just the parents they ask, essentially they basically, last year they had asked me if my sister was allowed to take a certain medication, I forget which. At this time I was 16. I essentially said it was alright for her to take it because I knew my parents allowed her to. Thats basically what they asked, if I knew she was allowed to take it by parental permission.

 

 

 

Its [bleep]ed up, and its easier if the kids can take meds, just get the parents to supply meds to the kids and provide them with a note if they get caught, or a note which they have to provide to the school on that day. Seems alot easier than the kid missing class time.

[Racheya]

 

There is no reason for the nurse to regulate something like that. Should we have peanuts and cherries regulated too because some people have allergic reactions? What about pens?

 

Schools do regulate peanuts already. In some schools you can't eat a PB&J sandwich, and while I don't agree with banning peanut butter regulating medicine use has more benefits than not doing it

 

:shock: You guys really confuse me. Either you go to a really good school or I go to a [cabbage] one. I've been going around with asthma sprays all the time, they SELL peanuts at my old secondary, I take paracetamol every so often in the toilets... I've never even heard rumours of people getting searched for drugs or anything!

[Giordano]

 

There is no reason for the nurse to regulate something like that. Should we have peanuts and cherries regulated too because some people have allergic reactions? What about pens?

 

Schools do regulate peanuts already. In some schools you can't eat a PB&J sandwich, and while I don't agree with banning peanut butter regulating medicine use has more benefits than not doing it

 

:shock: You guys really confuse me. Either you go to a really good school or I go to a [cabbage] one. I've been going around with asthma sprays all the time, they SELL peanuts at my old secondary, I take paracetamol every so often in the toilets... I've never even heard rumours of people getting searched for drugs or anything!

 

That's because the people running your school have some balls to know that life isn't safe.

 

 

 

 

What does the nurse's attitude towards you have to do with anything?

 

 

The number of times I don't have to see him, the better. Schools are being stupid now. Drugs aren't all the same. There are some that do less than others. Saying all drugs are banned is being way to short-narrowed that you don't understand the differences of drugs.

 

 

 

Schools are becoming free, high-security daycare nowadays. It must be all the negativity going around making everybody (students and school officals) going to extremes.

[Zierro]

No type of drug is alowed in the school.

 

 

 

There should be priorities. Caffeine is a drug and you don't see kids getting searched for having Mountain Dew.

 

 

 

Convenience? Really? I guess we should take out stop lights and stop signs as well because that'd make it more convenient

 

 

 

The result wouldn't be the same though. Take out the traffic lights and there would be more accidents. Take out ibuprofen regulations and nothing will change - kids take pills off of school grounds all the time and the result is ultimately the same, with the exception of the suing rate.

 

 

 

Parent's can't watch their kids 24/7 you know. So in those 7 hours the school has their children they rely on the school to keep them protected. Parents are of course going to sue if their child does something stupid that could've been prevented.

 

 

 

No, they sue because they like excuses for money. In reality it is more of the parent's fault than anyone else's. The parents are the ones who are supposed to teach their kids what to do, especially in this very context. I doubt the parents would agree with the notion that it's okay to strip search their children if the school has probable cause of them having possession of a drug which you probably gave them yourself.

 

 

 

What does the nurse's attitude towards you have to do with anything?

 

 

 

Look at it this way. Would you rather discuss your driving to a cop or to a family member?

[Riku3220]

No type of drug is alowed in the school.

 

 

 

There should be priorities. Caffeine is a drug and you don't see kids getting searched for having Mountain Dew.

 

It only takes a few pills to overdose on Ibuprofen. you'd have to drink about 100 MDs in an hour to get a caffeine overdose. Caffeine tablets is a different situation and should be in the same boat as Ibuprofen.

 

Convenience? Really? I guess we should take out stop lights and stop signs as well because that'd make it more convenient

 

 

 

The result wouldn't be the same though. Take out the traffic lights and there would be more accidents. Take out ibuprofen regulations and nothing will change - kids take pills off of school grounds all the time and the result is ultimately the same, with the exception of the suing rate.

 

There's no need to take out the drug restrictions except for conveniece as you said. And if we can allow students to becareful for themselves then surely drivers of all ages can do it too.

 

Parent's can't watch their kids 24/7 you know. So in those 7 hours the school has their children they rely on the school to keep them protected. Parents are of course going to sue if their child does something stupid that could've been prevented.

 

 

 

No, they sue because they like excuses for money. In reality it is more of the parent's fault than anyone else's. The parents are the ones who are supposed to teach their kids what to do, especially in this very context. I doubt the parents would agree with the notion that it's okay to strip search their children if the school has probable cause of them having possession of a drug which you probably gave them yourself.

 

It's the parent's job to teach their kids yes, but they still have to rely on the school to make sure they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.

 

What does the nurse's attitude towards you have to do with anything?

 

 

 

Look at it this way. Would you rather discuss your driving to a cop or to a family member?

 

I'm still not seeing what the nurse's attitude has to do with drug restrictions.

[Laura]

Yes, that's how it usually works. I can't tell you the number of cases I've seen similar to that. At thirteen, the girl is just starting to develop higher levels of cognitive thinking for long-term consequences. As he puts it, they're idiots.

 

 

 

Using your own words, can you provide an unbiased source? Teenagers aren't the only ones effected negatively by drugs. In fact, can you provide me with something that says there are more cases of teens dying from drugs than adults or anything along those lines? Adults can be just as guilty, but yet your argument is targeting children as if they are the only ones who are known for doing this.

It's under any entirely different pretext; an opinion is implied as I stated the word, "I." What would be the point of providing such as source to compare the deaths of adults vs. teens? The poll would be biased in itself with variables such as country, population, frequency of drug participation, drug exposure, etc. Adults can be guilty, but that isn't what we're arguing here. A child has no consent regarding this and has no responsibility in this situation.

 

 

 

The act of strip searching her so swiftly was unjustifiable but there is no excuse for why she brought it to school in the first place.

 

 

 

I wouldn't be a fan of the inconveniences attached to going to the nurse's office just to take my pill which I presumably have been taking regularly without any bad side effects. Plus I have never heard of such a rule. You can't honestly think that it's a good idea to make teens liable for going up to the office every time they have something minor like a headache. School is the only place where I've heard of such a ridiculous rule. No one else seems to freak out when they see you holding ibuprofen. The school goes straight to assuming that a kid's hearsay about drugs = automatic death.

If you don't live in the U.S., I can understand. It is regulated by, I believe, the state or county. It might be an inconvenience, but it saves larger ones such as this from occurring. The sole fact that we are discussing this evidence this. You don't seem to understand that drugs have adverse side effects, especially when you give them out to kids that you know nothing of; death is a certain possibility.

 

No, they sue because they like excuses for money.

I'm sure that's the reason it occurs, especially when their child just died due to internal bleeding - at school.

 

and nothing will change

No, kids would end up without discouragement to bring these kinds of drugs to school. It's a horrible amendment to make for the sake of connivence.

 

It doesn't? Hmmm, I fail to see how the idea of disregarding your priorities is a good one.

"Priorities" aren't a concept used in medicine. Potentially, a hallucinogenic could be a lot safer to use than a pain-killer.

[WoodenFruit]

Recently I walked into the school toilets and a girl in my year was rolling a spliff :lol:

 

 

 

The school nurses have to ring your parents if you ask them for pain killers incase you're allergic or have had too many, but everyone just keeps their own strip of pain killers in their bags. I don't think they should've stripped searched her though, even if it was a woman doing it it's still quite degrading and it was only painkillers for Christs sake! :shock:

[deathdrow]

 

I wouldn't be a fan of the inconveniences attached to going to the nurse's office just to take my pill which I presumably have been taking regularly without any bad side effects. Plus I have never heard of such a rule. You can't honestly think that it's a good idea to make teens liable for going up to the office every time they have something minor like a headache. School is the only place where I've heard of such a ridiculous rule. No one else seems to freak out when they see you holding ibuprofen. The school goes straight to assuming that a kid's hearsay about drugs = automatic death.

 

Look, it does not matter if the drug was Ibuprofen, marijuana, or meth. If they seriously need to fix a headache problem every nurse I've been to since middle school had her own supply of Tylenol. There is no reason for anybody to bring any form of drug into the school.

 

My school's nurse is only at the school on thursdays, she's an idiot, taught the school to put condoms on wrong, caused 3 pregnancies because of this, and doesn't know what the hell she's talking about.

[Furah]

 

My school's nurse is only at the school on thursdays, she's an idiot, taught the school to put condoms on wrong, caused 3 pregnancies because of this, and doesn't know what the hell she's talking about.

 

At the highschool I went to the PE teachers taught how to use a condom, infact I never saw a school nurse, I only ever needed an ice pack after a punch-up. Even when I had a headache I just ignored it.

[LowFatMilk]

i got striped searched at heathrow aiport when i went for a holiday to england.

 

they suspected me of weapon/drug smugling because my jeans had a bulge.

 

i felt so embarrased and enraged, i took them to court and sued them and won $10,000 for strip searching me before patting me down.

 

 

 

trust me i know how the girl feels, except she didnt have to take her underwear off :oops:

[Racheya]

i got striped searched at heathrow aiport when i went for a holiday to england.

 

they suspected me of weapon/drug smugling because my jeans had a bulge.

 

i felt so embarrased and enraged, i took them to court and sued them and won $10,000 for strip searching me before patting me down.

 

 

 

trust me i know how the girl feels, except she didnt have to take her underwear off :oops:

 

Dude seriously?!

 

 

 

They see a guy with a bulge in his pants and this it's a weapon? :shock:

[LowFatMilk]

i got striped searched at heathrow aiport when i went for a holiday to england.

 

they suspected me of weapon/drug smugling because my jeans had a bulge.

 

i felt so embarrased and enraged, i took them to court and sued them and won $10,000 for strip searching me before patting me down.

 

 

 

trust me i know how the girl feels, except she didnt have to take her underwear off :oops:

 

Dude seriously?!

 

 

 

They see a guy with a bulge in his pants and this it's a weapon? :shock:

 

 

 

yup most humiliating day of my life

 

but atleast i got 10k cash outta it :D

[Kiriyama]

i got striped searched at heathrow aiport when i went for a holiday to england.

 

they suspected me of weapon/drug smugling because my jeans had a bulge.

 

i felt so embarrased and enraged, i took them to court and sued them and won $10,000 for strip searching me before patting me down.

 

 

 

trust me i know how the girl feels, except she didnt have to take her underwear off :oops:

 

Dude seriously?!

 

 

 

They see a guy with a bulge in his pants and this it's a weapon? :shock:

 

 

 

yup most humiliating day of my life

 

but atleast i got 10k cash outta it :D

 

 

 

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep]ing job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

[LowFatMilk]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

[Riku3220]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

 

You got embarassed so you sued. It's not like they tackled you to the ground and broke something, you were just embarassed, and to some people getting embarassed doesn't mean you should be getting large amounts of money.

[Kiriyama]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

 

You got embarassed so you sued. It's not like they tackled you to the ground and broke something, you were just embarassed, and to some people getting embarassed doesn't mean you should be getting large amounts of money.

 

 

 

Yeah, but hey! We can make money sueing anything today!

 

 

 

Its such a great way, why not sue over the littlest thing?

 

 

 

I mean, lets say you take a bus, on that bus you have say... coffee. The bus has to stop suddenly, and you spill your coffee on yourself. SUE! Even though it was clearly your fault, you can still sue.

[wild_goat_14]

i got striped searched at heathrow aiport when i went for a holiday to england.

 

they suspected me of weapon/drug smugling because my jeans had a bulge.

 

i felt so embarrased and enraged, i took them to court and sued them and won $10,000 for strip searching me before patting me down.

 

 

 

trust me i know how the girl feels, except she didnt have to take her underwear off :oops:

 

 

 

What was the bulge then? :twss:

[fastortoise]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

 

You got embarassed so you sued. It's not like they tackled you to the ground and broke something, you were just embarassed, and to some people getting embarassed doesn't mean you should be getting large amounts of money.

 

 

 

Yeah, but hey! We can make money sueing anything today!

 

 

 

Its such a great way, why not sue over the littlest thing?

 

 

 

I mean, lets say you take a bus, on that bus you have say... coffee. The bus has to stop suddenly, and you spill your coffee on yourself. SUE! Even though it was clearly your fault, you can still sue.

 

So if someone forced you to strip in front of a public crowd because there was a buldge in your pants, you wouldn't mind? After undressing completely, stark naked in front of all the people, you would just tell the officer "hey no problem man, you're just doing your job. I'll even come back tomorrow and strip down naked for you because I enjoyed it so much".

 

 

 

[wagon] like the ones that made Milk strip naked in an airport deserve to be sued. Also, if you take a cup of hot coffee on the bus, it's your own fault if you don't cover it with a lid.

[i_love_burritos]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

 

You got embarassed so you sued. It's not like they tackled you to the ground and broke something, you were just embarassed, and to some people getting embarassed doesn't mean you should be getting large amounts of money.

 

 

 

Yeah, but hey! We can make money sueing anything today!

 

 

 

Its such a great way, why not sue over the littlest thing?

 

 

 

I mean, lets say you take a bus, on that bus you have say... coffee. The bus has to stop suddenly, and you spill your coffee on yourself. SUE! Even though it was clearly your fault, you can still sue.

 

 

 

 

 

Calm down you guys. We should all just lay back and enjoy all the lulz we get here on OT.

[Nenga]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

 

You got embarassed so you sued. It's not like they tackled you to the ground and broke something, you were just embarassed, and to some people getting embarassed doesn't mean you should be getting large amounts of money.

 

 

 

Yeah, but hey! We can make money sueing anything today!

 

 

 

Its such a great way, why not sue over the littlest thing?

 

 

 

I mean, lets say you take a bus, on that bus you have say... coffee. The bus has to stop suddenly, and you spill your coffee on yourself. SUE! Even though it was clearly your fault, you can still sue.

 

 

 

 

 

Calm down you guys. We should all just lay back and enjoy all the lulz we get here on OT.

 

You said lulz!!!!!!!!%*^$! I demand tipit do something about this immediately or I WILL SUE!

[Riku3220]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

 

You got embarassed so you sued. It's not like they tackled you to the ground and broke something, you were just embarassed, and to some people getting embarassed doesn't mean you should be getting large amounts of money.

 

 

 

Yeah, but hey! We can make money sueing anything today!

 

 

 

Its such a great way, why not sue over the littlest thing?

 

 

 

I mean, lets say you take a bus, on that bus you have say... coffee. The bus has to stop suddenly, and you spill your coffee on yourself. SUE! Even though it was clearly your fault, you can still sue.

 

So if someone forced you to strip in front of a public crowd because there was a buldge in your pants, you wouldn't mind? After undressing completely, stark naked in front of all the people, you would just tell the officer "hey no problem man, you're just doing your job. I'll even come back tomorrow and strip down naked for you because I enjoyed it so much".

 

 

 

[wagon] like the ones that made Milk strip naked in an airport deserve to be sued. Also, if you take a cup of hot coffee on the bus, it's your own fault if you don't cover it with a lid.

 

What are you talking about? They don't strip search people in the middle of the airport! They take them to a room somewhere.

[fastortoise]

People like you make me sick.

 

 

 

They were doing their [bleep] job, they had a reason to suspect you were attempting to smuggle drugs.

 

 

 

dude they didn't even pat me down, which is mandatory before strip search.

 

so your in your little strip search world and im just telling my stroy, i dont need you flaming me over something

 

im still quite upset about. this only happend 4months ago btw

 

You got embarassed so you sued. It's not like they tackled you to the ground and broke something, you were just embarassed, and to some people getting embarassed doesn't mean you should be getting large amounts of money.

 

 

 

Yeah, but hey! We can make money sueing anything today!

 

 

 

Its such a great way, why not sue over the littlest thing?

 

 

 

I mean, lets say you take a bus, on that bus you have say... coffee. The bus has to stop suddenly, and you spill your coffee on yourself. SUE! Even though it was clearly your fault, you can still sue.

 

So if someone forced you to strip in front of a public crowd because there was a buldge in your pants, you wouldn't mind? After undressing completely, stark naked in front of all the people, you would just tell the officer "hey no problem man, you're just doing your job. I'll even come back tomorrow and strip down naked for you because I enjoyed it so much".

 

 

 

[wagon] like the ones that made Milk strip naked in an airport deserve to be sued. Also, if you take a cup of hot coffee on the bus, it's your own fault if you don't cover it with a lid.

 

What are you talking about? They don't strip search people in the middle of the airport! They take them to a room somewhere.

 

That may be true, but I can hardly see the difference of emotional abuse in either case. People still have feelings behind closed doors :?