should flu vacinations be manditory?

[michel555555]

With all the hype over the new H1N1 virus thats spreading right now it just seems appropriate to bring up this issue.

 

 

 

So what do you think? If you do not get a fluvaccine there is the chance that you could catch a virus and then risk spreading it on to people who are either to young to get the vaccine or others who did not get their shots.

 

 

 

However some vaccines do have seriouse side effects and laws in the united states (i'm not sure about the rest of the world) make it so that you are not able to sue a drug company if something does go wrong. This is best illustrated by the 1976 virus that appeared and the united states began manditory vaccinations and in the end more people died of the vaccine then the virus.

 

 

 

I'm against manditory vacination because there is no accountability if something does go wrong while if you do get sick if your not vaccinated then you can at least blame yourself for it.

[magekillr]

Yes. Vaccinations should be mandatory when it involves a highly contagious virus and/or disease like the flu, polio, small pox, chicken pox, etc.

[Racheya]

Nope. I kept getting letters from my doctors saying I could get a free flu jab because I have asthma and I'm vulnerable... I kinda wished I had now :wall: But it'd be a waste of resources trying to chase up all the people that don't want it...

[Kiriyama]

Nobody is sticking any goddamned needle in me.

[Zierro]

However some vaccines do have seriouse side effects and laws in the united states (i'm not sure about the rest of the world) make it so that you are not able to sue a drug company if something does go wrong. This is best illustrated by the 1976 virus that appeared and the united states began manditory vaccinations and in the end more people died of the vaccine then the virus.

 

 

 

If it wasn't for this then I would be all for them being mandatory.

[Bauke]

However some vaccines do have seriouse side effects and laws in the united states (i'm not sure about the rest of the world) make it so that you are not able to sue a drug company if something does go wrong. This is best illustrated by the 1976 virus that appeared and the united states began manditory vaccinations and in the end more people died of the vaccine then the virus.

 

 

 

If it wasn't for this then I would be all for them being mandatory.

 

Wrong. People have the universal right that nothing is to be done to their body without their consent. Therefore vaccinations aren't mandatory. At least, they aren't where I live.

 

 

 

And flu vaccinations shouldn't be mandatory at all. The virus mutates every year, which easily makes the earlier vaccins obsolete.

[Zierro]

Wrong. People have the universal right that nothing is to be done to their body without their consent. Therefore vaccinations aren't mandatory. At least, they aren't where I live.

 

 

 

I would also say that people have the universal right to live in a healthy environment too.

[Bauke]

Wrong. People have the universal right that nothing is to be done to their body without their consent. Therefore vaccinations aren't mandatory. At least, they aren't where I live.

 

 

 

I would also say that people have the universal right to live in a healthy environment too.

 

Yes, and that's why you're entitled to a vaccination. Doesn't mean you can demand other people to get a vaccination.

[anonymous1234]

No mercury for me, thanks. I don't understand why people get annual flu shots when chances are even if you do get the flu you'll be fine, while the vaccinations can screw you over. Badly.

[magekillr]

Wrong. People have the universal right that nothing is to be done to their body without their consent. Therefore vaccinations aren't mandatory. At least, they aren't where I live.

 

 

 

I would also say that people have the universal right to live in a healthy environment too.

 

Yes, and that's why you're entitled to a vaccination. Doesn't mean you can demand other people to get a vaccination.

 

 

 

Without mandatory vaccinations, many diseases would not be wiped out. They are vital to the public health, just like smoking bans in public places.

[Lateralus]

Wrong. People have the universal right that nothing is to be done to their body without their consent. Therefore vaccinations aren't mandatory. At least, they aren't where I live.

 

 

 

I would also say that people have the universal right to live in a healthy environment too.

 

Yes, and that's why you're entitled to a vaccination. Doesn't mean you can demand other people to get a vaccination.

 

 

 

Without mandatory vaccinations, many diseases would not be wiped out. They are vital to the public health, just like smoking bans in public places.

 

 

 

There's no doubt that it would be medically beneficial, but the right to control what goes in to your own body is paramount.

[magekillr]

Wrong. People have the universal right that nothing is to be done to their body without their consent. Therefore vaccinations aren't mandatory. At least, they aren't where I live.

 

 

 

I would also say that people have the universal right to live in a healthy environment too.

 

Yes, and that's why you're entitled to a vaccination. Doesn't mean you can demand other people to get a vaccination.

 

 

 

Without mandatory vaccinations, many diseases would not be wiped out. They are vital to the public health, just like smoking bans in public places.

 

 

 

There's no doubt that it would be medically beneficial, but the right to control what goes in to your own body is paramount.

 

 

 

I disagree. There's a reason that many diseases are kept at bay, and it's because of herd immunity. This freaking vaccination controversy with autism has caused a sudden uprising in different infections, especially among young children. Measles are now making a come back because of these controversies.

 

 

 

Freedom over one's body comes at a certain cost, namely there should be fees if you don't vaccinate for certain highly contagious things such as the measles. You are affecting others' health by not being vaccinated, just as second hand smoke affects others' health around you.

 

 

 

Granted, there are and should be exemptions for philosophical and religious reasons. For example, children before enrolling in public and private schools are by law required to be vaccinated here in the US, but can get around it through the law.

 

 

 

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/RS21414.pdf

[Zierro]

Yes, and that's why you're entitled to a vaccination. Doesn't mean you can demand other people to get a vaccination.

 

 

 

Why not? In order to live in a truly healthy environment that would mean everyone would have to get the shots, and like I said, as long as there is no risk, I don't see any problems. The problem that you bring up sounds like nothing more than a "because I can" attitude.

[Robert_de_Sable]

Of course they should. No infected person has the right to spread it to others.

[Zierro]

Of course they should. No infected person has the right to spread it to others.

 

 

 

You make it sound as if they are purposely trying to spread it. I doubt this is the case. They just don't want to be forced to do something against their will (although it's unclear to me why they wouldn't want to be vaccinated other than the risk factors).

[Will H]

It depends on the situation, the virus and the vaccine. If we had an effective vaccine for Swine flu, I don't think manditory vaccinations are appropriate, but they should be encouraged.

 

 

 

If we were faced with a pandemic of a much more virulent and deadly strain, and had an effective vaccine, mandatory vaccinations might be appropriate. It's unreasonable and selfish to risk the health of others when the virus can be easily contained by the use of vaccines.

[Kiriyama]

Of course they should. No infected person has the right to spread it to others.

 

 

 

You make it sound as if they are purposely trying to spread it. I doubt this is the case. They just don't want to be forced to do something against their will (although it's unclear to me why they wouldn't want to be vaccinated other than the risk factors).

 

 

 

Some people are afraid of needles. That can be a reason why they don't want to be.

 

 

 

After the amount of times I've had blood taken, I'm still scared of needles. If theres a way around getting an injection, then I take it.

[Zierro]

Some people are afraid of homosexuals. This is no reason to have homosexuals segregated away from the rest of society. I don't like the idea of using irrational fears as a justification. Needles aren't really my thing either, but I just turn my head the other way when I get shots.

[Kiriyama]

Yeah, but a fear of needles does not come from mainly ignorance.

 

 

 

Its something I've always had, like my fear of snakes or spiders, and honestly, when you hear the blood coming out, and making a noise as if trying to force air out the syringe, you fear them more. True, when it came to vaccinations at school, I was (luckily) suspended during one (BCG or something), and didn't have to get it (it was later no longer administered the next year, I found that out while getting a different one.)

[BloodAngel]

Nope. I kept getting letters from my doctors saying I could get a free flu jab because I have asthma and I'm vulnerable... I kinda wished I had now :wall: But it'd be a waste of resources trying to chase up all the people that don't want it...

 

 

 

I get those too and this year was the first year since having asthma I decided not to get the flu jab because it seemed like more trouble than it was worth, whoops.

 

 

 

Anyway on topic I think it would be pretty difficult to force people to have vaccinations but I think more emphasis should be placed on getting them. You can't exactly throw someone in prison for refusing to have needles put in them.

[Sbrideau]

No it shouldn't be mandatory. There shouldn't be vaccines at all, we would all be naturally immune to the diseases. The problem is that people try to kill bacteria everywhere, and that's what's killing the immune system.

[Bauke]

Wrong. People have the universal right that nothing is to be done to their body without their consent. Therefore vaccinations aren't mandatory. At least, they aren't where I live.

 

 

 

I would also say that people have the universal right to live in a healthy environment too.

 

Yes, and that's why you're entitled to a vaccination. Doesn't mean you can demand other people to get a vaccination.

 

 

 

Without mandatory vaccinations, many diseases would not be wiped out. They are vital to the public health, just like smoking bans in public places.

 

Only the people that aren't vaccinated will suffer from it. And it still does not give you any right to violate one's basic rights as a human being.

 

 

 

And, we've been quite successful in eradicating infectious diseases. Take polio for example. And that's without the mandatory vaccination.

 

 

 

No it shouldn't be mandatory. There shouldn't be vaccines at all, we would all be naturally immune to the diseases. The problem is that people try to kill bacteria everywhere, and that's what's killing the immune system.

 

Biggest load of crap I've ever heard.

[Racheya]

No it shouldn't be mandatory. There shouldn't be vaccines at all, we would all be naturally immune to the diseases. The problem is that people try to kill bacteria everywhere, and that's what's killing the immune system.

 

The only problem with killing off bacteria all the time that I know of is that the bugs will die off, leaving only the more resistant strains. The more and more antibiotics ect we use, we're breeding 'super bugs'. Though I don't think if we stopped killing them it'd help us any better.

[IGoddessI]

I don't think flu vaccinations should be mandatory, reliable evidence against prevention is only modest. Plus, there are debates that certain types of vaccines are associated with some diseases, especially in certain genetic make-ups. In fact I believe in the latest research there was incredible amounts of bias in the effectiveness of the flu vaccination, particularly in seniors. Where as in pregnant women, the flu vaccination has showed many benefits for both mother and unborn child, extending to protecting the newborn for the first six months of it's life. Upon analysis, I deem the flu vaccination a benefit for some, though not all, therefore the flu vaccination in my opinion should not be mandatory.

 

 

 

Professor Paul Glezen of Baylor College of Medicine, Houston said:

"During the period from 1989 to 1997 the vaccination rate for people aged over 65 in the US increased from 30 to 67 per cent. Despite this increase, mortality and hospitalisation rates continued to increase rather than decline as would be expected if the vaccine was optimally effective.

[Dexek]

No it should not be mandatory. I personally never get any shots, and I can't say that I am sick very often. If people are going to whine that others deserve to live in a healthy enrivonment I suggest they take the shot and be happy about it. They could also try taking care of their bodies in order to better their immune systems. Just my opinion. :