Year of updates is FAIL

[canadiansmurf]

This is MONTH 6 of the updates year, and so far this year is graded as failing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Skills have not been updated or improved

 

(DO NOT mention minor tweaks, they do not count they were adding the odd update to a skill through quests etc. forever)

 

 

 

DO NOT MENTION SC tools - These cheapened skills, and wrecked skills more than improving anything. Especially the smithing cape, so few people had it and after SC 1000's more have this cape now.

 

 

 

DO NOT TIE IN SKILLS TO EACH OTHER without reason, summoning was big for doing this, but penalized skillers who stay level 3 - but now that summoning exists, its only fair that if you have a 99 skill you should be able to unlock the summon monster for that skill, these monsters wouldn't give the combat exp. just the skill boost, like if you had 99 herblore you could get a macaw for the herbs

 

 

 

What I would like to see for skills:

 

 

 

Update the exp points for certain skills, currently we all train using the "fastest and cheapest" method which means that lots of areas of a skill are neglected - currently skills are innovative and offer a variety of ways to level but the other ways to level are ignored becuase it's not good exp, especially in skills like hunter, chinchompa's are boring, but the skill is so rich that its a pity people don't lvl using other ways

 

 

 

unlocking more with skills as your level goes higher, this doesn't have to always mean new things to make, but maybe giving more experience bonus's as well if you are higher level in a skill

 

 

 

Expanding some skills that have been neglected, such as smithing, or firemaking and making these useful again.

 

 

 

STOP making it easier to gain level 99 in a skill, instead focus on making each skill richer and more rewarding, especially the original older skills which haven't been updated in forever

 

 

 

Make skills earn gp instead of losing gp, even if that means bringing in more NPC's that buy skiller produced items at good prices

 

 

 

 

 

2. CONTINUATION of favouring mellee

 

 

 

Corrupt dragon drops in PVP F2P only give mellee an advantage as usual magic and range are not factored in

 

 

 

Slayer mask provides boosts only for mellee, not magic or ranger, this needed to be fixed ever since this slayer mask was introduced, instead we are in month 6 of the update year and no sign of any updates.

 

 

 

Sort out the combat triangle, give us more hp its clearly needed

 

 

 

 

 

3. STOP ruining your own game

 

 

 

PVP drops have ruined huge sections of the game, which will now be deserted, such as Dag Kings etc. Keep monster drops as monster drops, and maybe just give pvp straight up cash rewards if they aren't willing to make new pvp only items besides corrupted.

 

 

 

4. DESERTED AREAS OF RS this is MONTH 6 of the update year and the poll's are about naming a pub??? HuH?????!

 

 

 

While the pub is in the middle of nowhere what about the enormous area's of RS that are neglected. Why not give exp bonuses in deserted areas or put in special events once a week in one of the town's of rs... there is so much they can do creatively if they so wished

 

 

 

minigames --- there's so many that are just never played either because the drops are now pvp or there are better and easier methods to train, why not tweak the exp or something for these but also cap the exp - so it would give great exp but you could only do the mini-game for half an hour max or something daily

 

 

 

 

 

5. COMMUNITY? WHAT community?!

 

 

 

Where is the promised clan support? Clan chat... big deal.

 

With the lack of random's I've noticed that most players are now afk especially while skilling.THis problem is huge in F2P especially. YOu can be at trees and there will be silence as everyone wcing is also doing something else. Congratulations jagex for making it so we never have to interact with anyone else, ever.

 

 

 

6. New updates WRECKING old content and skills

 

 

 

Stop doing this, new updates should build on and improve old content not just ruin it, there is so much ignored and abandoned content on rs, its not even funny

 

 

 

7. New updates that are IGNORED because they don't improve on prior items, or content

 

 

 

why make yet another set of low level armour or robes when there are already so many items that people aren't using

 

 

 

why make another agility course that will never ever be used outside of the quest?

 

 

 

stop wasting time with pointless updates while ignoring what does need to be done

 

 

 

8. FINISH quests, finish creating items that were demanded from players for ages

 

 

 

We want to go into the elf cities, we want crystal halberds, we want to know what happens (thanks for letting us find out what happens to zanik) but what about the original rs quests?

 

 

 

wrap some up before rolling out new quests

 

 

 

9. STOP listening to players / STOP changing like the sea with each CEO

 

 

 

NOt that Jagex ever really does listen to players, but Jagex needs to plan and figure out what they want their game to be and what needs to be done.

 

 

 

jackjonson wrote:

 

listening to the players is absolutely key. even with their ever growing staff they will never be able to compete with the imagination and attention to detail provided by the millions of players. the only way to keep the game going strong is to listen to players, but to listen through a filter, do not try and use every idea and to not try to please everyone. but to take ideas and modify them to work and benefit the most people they can

 

Agree this is more of what I meant, to filter player feedback.

 

 

 

I hate to say this but the game was much stronger and better content-wise, and even for skills the first few years that Jagex didn't really listen to players. Of course players will whine for easier skills and easier leveling, but now it's so hard to gauge accomplishment in RS. Phat's are cheap, lvl 99 capes are bought, even combat lvl is harder to gauge because of summoning. I remember when combat 126 was an accomplishment before gilded alters or ecto. Now I see a combat 135+ and it's not a big deal. It's just not the same level of respect or acheivement.

 

 

 

We want good suprises, we want you to make things we haven't even thought of yet or aren't expecting.

 

 

 

Set a goal for a new skill at least each year if not two. There just needs to be lots more content added but with thought.

 

 

 

STOP changing like the sea with each CEO

 

 

 

Great so the new CEO has new visions, but really how much does he know about RS the game or the community etc. to be able to make decisions and changes for us? We want more stability than CEO's who are here, make changes then leave, and new ones come in make promises, and then are just missing in action.

 

 

 

The game was much better with Andrew guiding it.

[3rkid]

This is MONTH 6 of the updates year, and so far this year is graded as failing.

 

 

 

Yeah, I hate to admit it, but it's true.

 

 

 

I've even quit Runescape from lack of new content. I agree, updating/upgrading year is fail halfway through.

 

 

 

Edit: Whoa, you put a ton of new stuff in your post.

[Alg]

I hate to tell you this, but a lot of your post is addressing content added before this year... Corrupt dragon was from late 2008, slayer masks were from far before then, and even with the PvP updates being combat centered, you just mention dragon and not Zuriel and Morrigan gear.

 

DO NOT MENTION SC tools - These cheapened skills, and wrecked skills more than improving anything. Especially the smithing cape, so few people had it and after SC 10000's more have this cape now.

 

Really? There are about less than 4,500 99 smiths, and that's after SC was released last year. Plus, SC is good in that it means less pointless grinding for your skills AND is a fun minigame. It probably doesn't make it faster as you get one tool per 20 minutes.

 

 

 

People train with the fastest way for skills because they're the fastest. Adding depth to a skill won't change that. It's usually not the cheapest for that reason either :lol:

 

 

 

Firemaking got

[canadiansmurf]

"addressing content added before this year"

 

 

 

^ Clearly, there hasn't been much added content this year, as this is the year for UPDATING existing content

 

 

 

And yeah PVP in members did have range mage updates

 

However PVP in F2P didn't, that's what my post pointed out.

 

 

 

My point is that for being the year of updates, not much has happened in six months.

[Moad14]

You over-exaggerate and not all of your points are valid, but I will admit that I feel your frustration as well.

 

 

 

Do not feel slighted, I believe this is the most support I've ever given to any rant yet. ;)

[mister_moocky]

There can only be 1 best way to train a skill. And your suggestions are terrible. Xp boosts in deserted areas? What the [cabbage]?

[Zierro]

I don't really care about the other things, but I do agree that SC hammers suck. PC was fine. ZMI was fine. I feel that hammers are taking it a bit too far though - you practically do the same tasks, but with items in your inventory which speed it up. I fear we're nearing the buyable XP era. Could just be my pessimism speaking though.

[Bombing_7000]

Wow O_O... I have to agree with you... that's quite what is happening >_<. Though some quests are useful, some are just uh... idk? I really like how you explained everything... I usually disagree with vents, but this one is makes me amazed... great thread, I hope everyone else reads it.

 

 

 

 

 

=D>

 

 

 

=Bomb=

[Inuashakent]

I don't really care about the other things, but I do agree that SC hammers suck. PC was fine. ZMI was fine. I feel that hammers are taking it a bit too far though - you practically do the same tasks, but with items in your inventory which speed it up. I fear we're nearing the buyable XP era. Could just be my pessimism speaking though.

 

SC hammers aren't buyable.

 

 

 

I do agree that Jagex needs to finish the current quests, areas, and items before releasing new, pointless, and irrelevant ones.

[EGmaestro]

while i dont agree with all of it, overall its a sound argument. :thumbup:

[jackjonson]

This is MONTH 6 of the updates year, and so far this year is graded as failing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Skills have not been updated or improved

 

(DO NOT mention minor tweaks, they do not count they were adding the odd update to a skill through quests etc. forever)

 

 

 

DO NOT MENTION SC tools - These cheapened skills, and wrecked skills more than improving anything. Especially the smithing cape, so few people had it and after SC 1000's more have this cape now.

 

 

 

DO NOT TIE IN SKILLS TO EACH OTHER without reason, summoning was big for doing this, but penalized skillers who stay level 3 - but now that summoning exists, its only fair that if you have a 99 skill you should be able to unlock the summon monster for that skill, these monsters wouldn't give the combat exp. just the skill boost, like if you had 99 herblore you could get a macaw for the herbs

 

 

 

the problem with this is that those level 3 skillers are intentionally limiting themselves.  thats like asking to remove defense requirements from armor because a 1 def pure cant use them.  its an available aspect of the game that is ignored by choice.

 

 

 

What I would like to see for skills:

 

 

 

Update the exp points for certain skills, currently we all train using the "fastest and cheapest" method which means that lots of areas of a skill are neglected - currently skills are innovative and offer a variety of ways to level but the other ways to level are ignored becuase it's not good exp, especially in skills like hunter, chinchompa's are boring, but the skill is so rich that its a pity people don't lvl using other ways

 

 

 

unlocking more with skills as your level goes higher, this doesn't have to always mean new things to make, but maybe giving more experience bonus's as well if you are higher level in a skill

 

 

 

Expanding some skills that have been neglected, such as smithing, or firemaking and making these useful again.

 

 

 

STOP making it easier to gain level 99 in a skill, instead focus on making each skill richer and more rewarding, especially the original older skills which haven't been updated in forever

 

 

 

Make skills earn gp instead of losing gp, even if that means bringing in more NPC's that buy skiller produced items at good prices

 

but here the price of raw materials will rise, this is simple econ that sadly most people will never fully understand (i doubt i will get it all even when i plan to go for my doctorate in econ) but the idea here is that people value xp. while it is not equal across the board, it is a non zero number, there will always be some people willing to dump money to get the skills faster...secondary skills will never again be profitable for any sustainable period of time when xp is valued at any non zero amount.

 

 

 

2. CONTINUATION of favouring mellee

 

 

 

Corrupt dragon drops in PVP F2P only give mellee an advantage as usual magic and range are not factored in

 

 

 

Slayer mask provides boosts only for mellee, not magic or ranger, this needed to be fixed ever since this slayer mask was introduced, instead we are in month 6 of the update year and no sign of any updates.

 

 

 

agree with this, although the rumors are that something is coming out with the new slayer monster, however you have to see it from their point of view. most players choose melee for whatever reason (most usually because it has no set loss per shot/cast like range and mage do) and jagex needs to cater to the majority most of the time, they cant keep everyone happy, and maybe the ratio of time spent isnt perfect, but it does make sense.

 

 

 

Sort out the combat triangle, give us more hp its clearly needed

 

 

 

with the huge update to pvp, including huge ko weapons, something is definitely needed, better armor or higher hp

 

 

 

3. STOP ruining your own game

 

 

 

PVP drops have ruined huge sections of the game, which will now be deserted, such as Dag Kings etc. Keep monster drops as monster drops, and maybe just give pvp straight up cash rewards if they aren't willing to make new pvp only items besides corrupted.

 

 

 

while not destroying some aspects, it does reduce the value those who enjoy monster hunting over pvp get from those drops and certainly detracts, while new items would be preferable, i see no problem with putting commonly used pk items in the drop tables (dfh...etc could have been left out as this was rarely if not never used)

 

 

 

4. DESERTED AREAS OF RS this is MONTH 6 of the update year and the poll's are about naming a pub??? HuH?????!

 

 

 

While the pub is in the middle of nowhere what about the enormous area's of RS that are neglected. Why not give exp bonuses in deserted areas or put in special events once a week in one of the town's of rs... there is so much they can do creatively if they so wished

 

 

 

what we have seen over the last 8 years, is that the only way to populate an area is to make it easily accessible, and to give people a reason to go there, but the only real reason to stay in a city is trade, or access to a bank for grinding skills. the ge monopolizes one of these, and you do see skillers at remote banks from time to time

 

 

 

minigames --- there's so many that are just never played either because the drops are now pvp or there are better and easier methods to train, why not tweak the exp or something for these but also cap the exp - so it would give great exp but you could only do the mini-game for half an hour max or something daily

 

not a huge fan of minigames, but well thought out games such as castle wars are popular even without rewards, i guess some could be tweaked to make them more enjoyable, but as i said, not my expertise

 

 

 

5. COMMUNITY? WHAT community?!

 

 

 

Where is the promised clan support? Clan chat... big deal.

 

With the lack of random's I've noticed that most players are now afk especially while skilling.THis problem is huge in F2P especially. YOu can be at trees and there will be silence as everyone wcing is also doing something else. Congratulations jagex for making it so we never have to interact with anyone else, ever.

 

 

 

while not ideal, the jagex cups they recently completed went a huge step to acknowledging clans. and i do believe something is in the works, but like minigames, i have almost nobody on my friends list and do not use clan chats, so while i do not see whats lacking, i'm sure many of you do.

 

 

 

6. New updates WRECKING old content and skills

 

 

 

Stop doing this, new updates should build on and improve old content not just ruin it, there is so much ignored and abandoned content on rs, its not even funny

 

 

 

not sure what you mean here, i'm sure you have something in mind but i'm just not getting any specifics from how you wrote it

 

 

 

7. New updates that are IGNORED because they don't improve on prior items, or content

 

 

 

why make yet another set of low level armour or robes when there are already so many items that people aren't using

 

 

 

different sets do exactly what you were asking for, making skills and equipment varied so everything is not so monotone

 

 

 

why make another agility course that will never ever be used outside of the quest?

 

 

 

agreed

 

 

 

stop wasting time with pointless updates while ignoring what does need to be done

 

 

 

clearly agree with what you said here but keep in mind there are some who do not consider them pointless

 

 

 

8. FINISH quests, finish creating items that were demanded from players for ages

 

 

 

We want to go into the elf cities, we want crystal halberds, we want to know what happens (thanks for letting us find out what happens to zanik) but what about the original rs quests?

 

 

 

wrap some up before rolling out new quests

 

 

 

9. STOP listening to players / STOP changing like the sea with each CEO

 

 

 

NOt that Jagex ever really does listen to players, but Jagex needs to plan and figure out what they want their game to be and what needs to be done.

 

 

 

listening to the players is absolutely key. even with their ever growing staff they will never be able to compete with the imagination and attention to detail provided by the millions of players.  the only way to keep the game going strong is to listen to players, but to listen through a filter, do not try and use every idea and to not try to please everyone. but to take ideas and modify them to work and benefit the most people they can

 

 

 

I hate to say this but the game was much stronger and better content-wise, and even for skills the first few years that Jagex didn't really listen to players.

 

 

 

hate to say it, but this is completely wrong, years ago i remember mod mark specifically coming into the game to take ideas from players, almost every viable/useful/good idea was put into the game

 

 

 

Of course players will whine for easier skills and easier leveling, but now it's so hard to gauge accomplishment in RS. Phat's are cheap, lvl 99 capes are bought, even combat lvl is harder to gauge because of summoning. I remember when combat 126 was an accomplishment before gilded alters or ecto. Now I see a combat 135+ and it's not a big deal. It's just not the same level of respect or acheivement.

 

 

 

over time of course the achievement will be lessened, even without better ways of training the number of 120+(now 130+) players will increase, training methods speed it up, but do not contribute entirely to the problem. 

 

 

 

We want good suprises, we want you to make things we haven't even thought of yet or aren't expecting.

 

 

 

again surprising millions will be hard, but is possible.  but i think thats one of the big reasons the bts were stopped, people were building the updates to unrealistic standards and holding jagex to an unreasonable time scale. once the updating year is done, i think we will see much better quality in the udpates (and the upgrades themselves, one reason i think (hope?) we have seen a lack of real big tweaks to the game over the last 6 months

 

 

 

Set a goal for a new skill at least each year if not two. There just needs to be lots more content added but with thought.

 

 

 

i believe a while back they said they were always working on 2 skills? i may be mistaken but something like 18 months to plan and develop an extremely basic skill. summoning has been in the works from well before the rs2 update

 

 

 

STOP changing like the sea with each CEO

 

 

 

Great so the new CEO has new visions, but really how much does he know about RS the game or the community etc. to be able to make decisions and changes for us? We want more stability than CEO's who are here, make changes then leave, and new ones come in make promises, and then are just missing in action.

 

 

 

The game was much better with Andrew guiding it.

 

 

 

different, i enjoyed it more under him, but i would give mark a little longer, and let him get out on his own before judging, dont forget that it was andrews idea for the udpate year (mentioned in one of the interviews or q&a sessions he held on the forums/cc if i remember correctly)

 

 

 

overall, i do agree with much of what you said, and think that the update year has been lacking. however some of the things you wish for i do not believe obtainable. and the rest i hope took a little longer in development than expected.

 

 

 

as for the useless updates, i feel its important to keep them coming, just not to devote too many resources away from fixing/truly improving the game.

 

 

 

 

 

great post that addresses a lot of important things as well as leaves it open for debate

 

 

 

edit: put my comments in code brackets to make them easier to pick out

[quelmotz]

You're contradicting yourself.

 

 

 

You said to LISTEN TO PLAYERS and see what they want, and stop wasting time making useless updates. Then you said, STOP listening to players whining, JUST go ahead and focus on a certain skill. What the hell?

 

 

 

And threads like this are just replicates of the thousands of threads about this topic floating around in the forum. Admittedly better formatted and with some more valid arguments, but its still just a copy.

[haggisoflife]

I agree that the year of update is getting somewhat long in the tooth but your points seem a little harsh

 

 

 

1. Skills have not been updated or improved

 

Like with most years the changes are all the little things, the tweeks and the fixes. Honestly can't remember the last big skill change that wasn't a new skill, but I'd agree that a new one would be excellent

 

 

 

2. CONTINUATION of favouring mellee

 

Has always been broken, mostly in favour of whichever style you don't play.

 

 

 

 

 

3. STOP ruining your own game

 

But that's what Jagex have always done since day 1, I though it was their business plan or something

 

 

 

4. DESERTED AREAS OF RS this is MONTH 6 of the update year and the poll's are about naming a pub??? HuH?????!

 

Agreed - if it's supposed to be a year of updates then make it a big bunch of change and not squibby little things like that.

 

 

 

5. COMMUNITY? WHAT community?!

 

all under the "coming soon" banner. Possibly should be renamed the "8 months of dev then 4 months of huge releases". Makes me think this year wasn't well though out at all

 

 

 

6. New updates WRECKING old content and skills

 

Again: this has happened since the very first update. When will jagex learn: players don't want change!

 

 

 

 

 

7. New updates that are IGNORED because they don't improve on prior items, or content

 

I'll agree that some of the value of the updates passed me by but i think you're being a little harsh here.

 

 

 

8. FINISH quests, finish creating items that were demanded from players for ages

 

Agreed - tie up the loose ends of the game before putting more in. Sooooo many plot lines that could be finished off and leave some space for new epic lines

 

 

 

9. STOP listening to players / STOP changing like the sea with each CEO

 

Agreed about the CEO (though tbh it's only happened once) but "STOP listening to players"?? erm... your aware that that invalidates the whole point of your post, right? And imo would be a waste of time. Maybe "stop having kneejerk reactions to that weeks bunch of moaning ninnies" would be a better rallying cry.

 

 

 

Oh yeah, and from all the stuff I've seen and heard Andrew is guiding it, he just has MMG doing loads of the work with him

[quelmotz]

I agree that the year of update is getting somewhat long in the tooth but your points seem a little harsh

 

 

 

1. Skills have not been updated or improved

 

Like with most years the changes are all the little things, the tweeks and the fixes. Honestly can't remember the last big skill change that wasn't a new skill, but I'd agree that a new one would be excellent Agreed.

 

 

 

2. CONTINUATION of favouring mellee

 

Has always been broken, mostly in favour of whichever style you don't play. Yeah, but Jagex has always been favouring melee. Mages are badly underpowered (in f2p) and extremely expensive (in p2p). Rangers are ok, but fall to meleers, except for ranged tanks (f2p).

 

 

 

 

 

3. STOP ruining your own game

 

But that's what Jagex have always done since day 1, I though it was their business plan or something Don't be stupid. How can Jagex be a prospering company if they ruin their own game from day 1. PLEASE. I was thinking you wasn't that kind of idiotic people but when read this, my opinion changed drastically. :roll:

 

 

 

4. DESERTED AREAS OF RS this is MONTH 6 of the update year and the poll's are about naming a pub??? HuH?????!

 

Agreed - if it's supposed to be a year of updates then make it a big bunch of change and not squibby little things like that. Its called TOUCHING UP. Seriously, go and learn some English please. Update year =/= all big updates. They said it was supposed to be a year of touching up and patching old things. Though I agree that they haven't been doing this particularly well. :roll:

 

 

 

5. COMMUNITY? WHAT community?!

 

all under the "coming soon" banner. Possibly should be renamed the "8 months of dev then 4 months of huge releases". Makes me think this year wasn't well though out at all

 

...I sort of agree.

 

 

 

6. New updates WRECKING old content and skills

 

Again: this has happened since the very first update. When will jagex learn: players don't want change! Ok. Since you don't want change, I'll tell Jagex to stop making ANY updates at all, no matter how you whine and rant. SERIOUSLY, where's your brain. Please use some of your grey matter, or they'll rot. CHANGE is NECESSARY and INEVITABLE.

 

 

 

 

 

7. New updates that are IGNORED because they don't improve on prior items, or content

 

I'll agree that some of the value of the updates passed me by but i think you're being a little harsh here. Yeah, you're being overly harsh.

 

 

 

8. FINISH quests, finish creating items that were demanded from players for ages

 

Agreed - tie up the loose ends of the game before putting more in. Sooooo many plot lines that could be finished off and leave some space for new epic lines Agreed. But I, being a f2p player, don't have much quests to do, so I can't really comment on this.

 

 

 

9. STOP listening to players / STOP changing like the sea with each CEO

 

Agreed about the CEO (though tbh it's only happened once) but "STOP listening to players"?? erm... your aware that that invalidates the whole point of your post, right? And imo would be a waste of time. Maybe "stop having kneejerk reactions to that weeks bunch of moaning ninnies" would be a better rallying cry. SERIOUSLY. Ok, since you say they should stop listening to players, they shouldn't listen to your freaking stupid post then. Holy crap, was your brain on "OFF" mode or what? Or just ate a pill that made you stupid?

 

 

 

Oh yeah, and from all the stuff I've seen and heard Andrew is guiding it, he just has MMG doing loads of the work with him. Every CEO will have work to do, but MMG definitely has more -.-

[canadiansmurf]

quelmotz wrote:

 

SERIOUSLY. Ok, since you say they should stop listening to players, they shouldn't listen to your freaking stupid post then.

 

 

 

Where in my post am I asking "them" to listen to me. I'm not posting on the RSOF am I? I'm used to being ignored by Jagex, after all I DO play runescape.

 

 

 

My purpose in this thread was to evaluate the so-called year of updates, and compare it to what was promised vs what's is actually happening.

 

 

 

In month six of the year of updates not much has happened.

 

 

 

I like change, useful change would be even better.

 

 

 

Also if you are a F2P player nothing changes much in F2P. As a member I have experienced updates that cause negative changes to the game.

 

 

 

And that post you replied to was someone (haggisoflife) replying to my post... I don't think you meant to insult that poster?

 

 

 

And fyi if you are replying to a post, do try to reply to the original post, and if you feel like insulting someone one or two insults work, just replying continously with insults isn't needed.

[quelmotz]

quelmotz wrote:

 

SERIOUSLY. Ok, since you say they should stop listening to players, they shouldn't listen to your freaking stupid post then.

 

 

 

Where in my post am I asking "them" to listen to me. I'm not posting on the RSOF am I? I'm used to being ignored by Jagex, after all I DO play runescape.

 

 

 

My purpose in this thread was to evaluate the so-called year of updates, and compare it to what was promised vs what's is actually happening.

 

 

 

In month six of the year of updates not much has happened.

 

 

 

I like change, useful change would be even better.

 

 

 

Also if you are a F2P player nothing changes much in F2P. As a member I have experienced updates that cause negative changes to the game.

 

 

 

And that post you replied to was someone (haggisoflife) replying to my post... I don't think you meant to insult that poster?

 

 

 

And fyi if you are replying to a post, do try to reply to the original post, and if you feel like insulting someone one or two insults work, just replying continously with insults isn't needed.

 

 

 

Then don't post. Stop wasting Tip.it's memory space.

 

 

 

So you mean I can't debate with someone else in this thread? Nice fail. Threads are for people to debate, not talk about the topic. If so, everyone just has to post their own opinion and not say anything to each other. He doesn't use his brain, so why can't I criticise him?

 

 

 

I'm answering to both people. You and haggisoflife. If you use your brain you can interpret which person/people I am talking to.

[Alg]

They never actually called it the "year of updates", that's your phrase; they do call it the "official Upgrade Year". To quote Jagex on what they said they would be doing:

 

* Doing the 'little' jobs that make a big difference (e.g. a 'You are here' arrow on the world map) and basically fixing all the annoying little quirks the game has. Things that may be the least glamorous to work on and talk about, but which really add up.

 

* Updating some of the earliest content/quests to bring it up to date, and take advantage of all the features we have added to the game engine since it was originally created. Also, reworking old clues that no longer work now the game is bigger (e.g. 'Look west of the mountains' was fine when there was only one mountain, but not now).

 

* Making the interfaces as intuitive, flexible and user-friendly as possible.

 

* Then, after all that, well start looking into abandoned and barely used areas/features of the game, and breathing new life into them.

 

 

 

 

http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1598

[xpandax]

to be honest ranged in f2p doesn't really need anything new... it's already better than mage and melee. I'm happy with this year so far... they finally gave pkers a pretty solid replacement of the old wild, just because that doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it isn't important. pking is very important to the runescape economy.

[unjustblood]

Update the exp points for certain skills, currently we all train using the "fastest and cheapest" method which means that lots of areas of a skill are neglected - currently skills are innovative and offer a variety of ways to level but the other ways to level are ignored becuase it's not good exp, especially in skills like hunter, chinchompa's are boring, but the skill is so rich that its a pity people don't lvl using other ways

 

 

 

unlocking more with skills as your level goes higher, this doesn't have to always mean new things to make, but maybe giving more experience bonus's as well if you are higher level in a skill

 

 

 

Expanding some skills that have been neglected, such as smithing, or firemaking and making these useful again.

 

 

 

STOP making it easier to gain level 99 in a skill, instead focus on making each skill richer and more rewarding, especially the original older skills which haven't been updated in forever

 

 

 

Make skills earn gp instead of losing gp, even if that means bringing in more NPC's that buy skiller produced items at good prices

 

 

 

Contradiction much?

[Ravenkana]

Update the exp points for certain skills, currently we all train using the "fastest and cheapest" method which means that lots of areas of a skill are neglected - currently skills are innovative and offer a variety of ways to level but the other ways to level are ignored becuase it's not good exp, especially in skills like hunter, chinchompa's are boring, but the skill is so rich that its a pity people don't lvl using other ways

 

 

 

unlocking more with skills as your level goes higher, this doesn't have to always mean new things to make, but maybe giving more experience bonus's as well if you are higher level in a skill

 

 

 

Expanding some skills that have been neglected, such as smithing, or firemaking and making these useful again.

 

 

 

STOP making it easier to gain level 99 in a skill, instead focus on making each skill richer and more rewarding, especially the original older skills which haven't been updated in forever

 

 

 

Make skills earn gp instead of losing gp, even if that means bringing in more NPC's that buy skiller produced items at good prices

 

 

 

Contradiction much?

I believe he's asking Jagex to update skills so people will use more methods of training instead of just the fastest. Such as granite mining or chinchompas.

[forestfrolic]

People either want fast xp, or good cash. They should not, and do not come together when skilling.

[Alg]

People either want fast xp, or good cash. They should not, and do not come together when skilling.

 

Well, they do for a while. Then word gets out and it either stops being profitable, is crowded to the point of inefficiency (Aviansies, Red Chinchompas), or is nowhere near as profitable as combat (fishing monkfish, woodcutting yews).

[quelmotz]

Update the exp points for certain skills, currently we all train using the "fastest and cheapest" method which means that lots of areas of a skill are neglected - currently skills are innovative and offer a variety of ways to level but the other ways to level are ignored becuase it's not good exp, especially in skills like hunter, chinchompa's are boring, but the skill is so rich that its a pity people don't lvl using other ways

 

 

 

unlocking more with skills as your level goes higher, this doesn't have to always mean new things to make, but maybe giving more experience bonus's as well if you are higher level in a skill

 

 

 

Expanding some skills that have been neglected, such as smithing, or firemaking and making these useful again.

 

 

 

STOP making it easier to gain level 99 in a skill, instead focus on making each skill richer and more rewarding, especially the original older skills which haven't been updated in forever

 

 

 

Make skills earn gp instead of losing gp, even if that means bringing in more NPC's that buy skiller produced items at good prices

 

 

 

Contradiction much?

 

 

 

Exactly. This guy keeps contradicting himself, as I pointed out earlier.

[canadiansmurf]

I just wish the year of updates / upgrades were actually fuller in updates and upgrades. We've had some, but not nearly enough for six whole months.

 

 

 

I wish jagex were more honest and just admitted that this year of upgrades is a way for them to coast by with barely working on rs or paying attention to rs while they focus on bringing out mechscape.

[Plugpoint]

This is MONTH 6 of the updates year, and so far this year is graded as failing.

 

Might want to sort out the size thing lol, that'd be graded as failing too :P

 

I know what you mean though, but it's the year of upGRADES and not upDATES.

 

So little things like tweaking the fact that you used to run around unnecessarily before running in the right direction have been fixed

 

They're just doing little things to make the game better.

 

 

 

Also, "COMMUNITY? WHAT community?!"

 

Jagex are starting to reach out to fansites, I think that counts.