Overkill

I almost want to disagree with everyone, just because everyone else is agreeing. :o

 

 

 

 

 

Do they really think that fining her is going to change anything? I'm sure this trial won't make any kind of dent in piracy (Arr).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Off Topic: What's with these peoples' names: Kiwi? Jammie? Makes me kinda thirsty.....

that's pretty bad. now the familys going to have a hard time. :wall:

She should an hero.

 

In other words martyr herself for the good of all media. If the record companies don't feel bad enough about causing a mother of four to go bankrupt, maybe they'll feel something if they orphan 4 kids over two dozen songs. This will end all these rediculous fines and scapegoating. The law is using terror tactics (isn't that what America is fighting AGAINST?). Fight back.

She should an hero.

 

In other words martyr herself for the good of all media. If the record companies don't feel bad enough about causing a mother of four to go bankrupt, maybe they'll feel something if they orphan 4 kids over two dozen songs. This will end all these rediculous fines and scapegoating. The law is using terror tactics (isn't that what America is fighting AGAINST?). Fight back.

 

You really haven't been following this closely have you? Stuff like this has been going on for awhile. People just migrate to different programs, so these scare tactics don't really work. Then they announced they'd be taking a new approach, I guess that didn't work too well.

She should an hero.

 

In other words martyr herself for the good of all media. If the record companies don't feel bad enough about causing a mother of four to go bankrupt, maybe they'll feel something if they orphan 4 kids over two dozen songs. This will end all these rediculous fines and scapegoating. The law is using terror tactics (isn't that what America is fighting AGAINST?). Fight back.

 

You really haven't been following this closely have you? Stuff like this has been going on for awhile. People just migrate to different programs, so these scare tactics don't really work. Then they announced they'd be taking a new approach, I guess that didn't work too well.

 

I follow this stuff as closely as the OP gives. This seems to happen all the time, yes. Pirating sites are constantly shut down, and more pop up. I understand how that works. But no one has ever killed themselves over it. Eventually I think the law is just going to have to let it go. That's my ideal anyway.

She should an hero.

 

In other words martyr herself for the good of all media. If the record companies don't feel bad enough about causing a mother of four to go bankrupt, maybe they'll feel something if they orphan 4 kids over two dozen songs. This will end all these rediculous fines and scapegoating. The law is using terror tactics (isn't that what America is fighting AGAINST?). Fight back.

 

You really haven't been following this closely have you? Stuff like this has been going on for awhile. People just migrate to different programs, so these scare tactics don't really work. Then they announced they'd be taking a new approach, I guess that didn't work too well.

 

I follow this stuff as closely as the OP gives. This seems to happen all the time, yes. Pirating sites are constantly shut down, and more pop up. I understand how that works. But no one has ever killed themselves over it. Eventually I think the law is just going to have to let it go. That's my ideal anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

The bolded part right there is the problem though, as groups like the MPAA/RIAA, who don't actually own the copyrights, are constantly pushing for laws that are entirely in favor of the companies who produce the goods and in turn make it harder for the consumer to do things with their legally purchased stuff. Their latest stunt is with the ACTA that no one outside of the industry is privy to. Now, if the lobbyists for these groups were to up and disappear we would be fine as the law would end up being changed to be a compromise for both the consumer and companies, but until then we have things like below happening.

 

 

 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008 ... o-late.ars

 

[hide=]Here is a look at the data EA provided, although it stresses that these numbers are a sample and shouldn't be taken as indicative of total sales:

 

 

 

* Total activations: 437,138

 

* Users activating on only 1 machine: 86 percent

 

* Users activating on more than 1 machine: 14 percent

 

* User trying to activate on more than 3 machines: 0.4 percent

 

 

 

If this data is to be believed, the newly implemented five-install limit should be more than enough to keep customers happy, along with the to-be-released deauthorization system. Still, the very idea of any kind of limit seems to gall many gamers, who believe this system turns their game purchases into glorified rentals. It's likely these new "loosened" restrictions will be hit with the same vitriol.[/hide]

 

 

 

Those kind of limitations are what drive people to pirate. This includes, but is not limited to: a dvd only being able to play on a certain player, this includes being restricted by region, music that has been ripped from a cd once and from that point forward can't be backed up(totally legal to back things up via the DMCA), among many other things.

Good, she should have bought them in the first place.

The mom who downloaded 24 songs is fined 80,000$ / song.... Right then what about the thousands of other people who download thousands and thousands of copyrighted material daily? Just a joke...

The entire case feels fake, like someone's putting a show on to make a point. It's almost as if the plaintiff and defendent are in cahootz just to scare piraters. By that I mean, maybe the record companies plan to sue the woman and win, but then later pay her back for losses and then some for working with them.

 

 

 

Shock news is shock news, but regardless the vibe eminatin' from this story doesn't sit with me well. There are literally millions, if not billions of piraters throughout the world, most of whom have done worse and are less deserving of sympathy in the courtroom (any of us, for example). It's like the company's sayin', "hey you scum, we're willing to screw over a mother of four for ["]stealing["] from us, but don't worry, we're coming for you next, and we're bringin' the horns." The record labels want publicity and fear from this; the woman's nothing more than a part of the show.

Would it not be more practical to put ads in the downloading software?

Would it not be more practical to put ads in the downloading software?

 

It's already annoying that they put SecuROM (root-kit) and have activation limit, but now ads??

[cabbage] if i were fined it would be, 800000000. :shock: She was used as an example however, which sucks for her.

...If I could save a mom from being fine 1.92 million dollars by looking at ads every time I turn on LW...

Note: the following post is based on the assumption that she was fined not because she downloaded the songs (they don't give a crap, i believe) but was because she shared the downloaded stuff online. Unless, I failed my interpretation.

 

 

 

In any case, if she was fined for sharing the stuff online, then she deserves it, however I must agree 80k per song is a bit insane.

80k is way too much per song. For the 24 songs focused on, 80k is too much for all of them. I would owe close to a billion, at least, by now, I think.

 

 

 

Unless it is about the sharing alone, in which case, I'm fine.

Note: the following post is based on the assumption that she was fined not because she downloaded the songs (they don't give a crap, i believe) but was because she shared the downloaded stuff online. Unless, I failed my interpretation.

 

 

 

In any case, if she was fined for sharing the stuff online, then she deserves it, however I must agree 80k per song is a bit insane.

 

 

 

if no one shares the songs, file sharing would die though.

Note: the following post is based on the assumption that she was fined not because she downloaded the songs (they don't give a crap, i believe) but was because she shared the downloaded stuff online. Unless, I failed my interpretation.

 

 

 

In any case, if she was fined for sharing the stuff online, then she deserves it, however I must agree 80k per song is a bit insane.

 

 

 

if no one shares the songs, file sharing would die though.

 

Oh boo hoo. File sharing is dead. FML :(

 

 

 

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Note: the following post is based on the assumption that she was fined not because she downloaded the songs (they don't give a crap, i believe) but was because she shared the downloaded stuff online. Unless, I failed my interpretation.

 

 

 

In any case, if she was fined for sharing the stuff online, then she deserves it, however I must agree 80k per song is a bit insane.

 

 

 

if no one shares the songs, file sharing would die though.

 

 

 

Maybe in the Internet, but people will always still share songs with friends and burn CDs and just simply continue the loop.

Note: the following post is based on the assumption that she was fined not because she downloaded the songs (they don't give a crap, i believe) but was because she shared the downloaded stuff online. Unless, I failed my interpretation.

 

 

 

In any case, if she was fined for sharing the stuff online, then she deserves it, however I must agree 80k per song is a bit insane.

 

 

 

if no one shares the songs, file sharing would die though.

 

 

 

Maybe in the Internet, but people will always still share songs with friends and burn CDs and just simply continue the loop.

 

Thing is, she downloaded the 1000 songs, then let people download it off her. Now, most record labels would close one eye when it comes to downloading them for personal use, but sharing 1000 of them online is... giving the labels a punch in the face. If people can just download it off the net, why do they even have CD shops in the first place.

 

Sure, if you share a couple with your friends it's kind of justified, but to share 1k songs with the internet?

 

(feeling a bit sleepy, hope my post isn't messed up)

I thought we were talking about 24 songs?

Note: the following post is based on the assumption that she was fined not because she downloaded the songs (they don't give a crap, i believe) but was because she shared the downloaded stuff online. Unless, I failed my interpretation.

 

 

 

In any case, if she was fined for sharing the stuff online, then she deserves it, however I must agree 80k per song is a bit insane.

 

 

 

if no one shares the songs, file sharing would die though.

 

 

 

Maybe in the Internet, but people will always still share songs with friends and burn CDs and just simply continue the loop.

A real world audience is infinitesimal compared to the amount of people you can find online.

Thing is, she downloaded the 1000 songs, then let people download it off her. Now, most record labels would close one eye when it comes to downloading them for personal use, but sharing 1000 of them online is... giving the labels a punch in the face. If people can just download it off the net, why do they even have CD shops in the first place.

 

Sure, if you share a couple with your friends it's kind of justified, but to share 1k songs with the internet?

 

(feeling a bit sleepy, hope my post isn't messed up)

 

I want to live in your world in that case....

 

Plus the case focused on just 24 songs, which is what she got fined for.

I think they are just using scare tactics in the hope that people will stop downloading music illegally.

Note: the following post is based on the assumption that she was fined not because she downloaded the songs (they don't give a crap, i believe) but was because she shared the downloaded stuff online. Unless, I failed my interpretation.

 

 

 

In any case, if she was fined for sharing the stuff online, then she deserves it, however I must agree 80k per song is a bit insane.

 

 

 

if no one shares the songs, file sharing would die though.

 

 

 

Maybe in the Internet, but people will always still share songs with friends and burn CDs and just simply continue the loop.

A real world audience is infinitesimal compared to the amount of people you can find online.

 

 

 

trol_slayer9 said if no one shared songs in the Internet, file sharing will die. I presume he was talking about the Internet as trol_slayer9 was quoting sohkmj1.

 

 

 

But I'm saying even if everyone in the Internet was to stop sharing, file sharing will still happen and not die.