zzammy_wiz Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 i am an anticrist... my mother is a believer i didnt, then the whole group of cristians start calling me a devilschild, i got stalked. some cristains talked with me about jezus but they kept comming closer to me i felt i as going to be abused and stuff... they had to insult me for more than 5 year and they still dont quit... they cant see me as a normal human.. so i started to insult them. im 16 and they are still trying to convince me god exsists, i wont believe.. on one side they try to convince me and on the other side they insult me.. That's not really antichrist ;) More of an atheist :P i hate all cristians, they ruined my pride for me :evil: Explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbybeam Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It's actually placed elsewhere ;) Energy is never destroyed :P Um... Energy can be created and destroyed... Quantum Physics explains how. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle makes it so that matter is being created and destroyed all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runesmithie Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It's actually placed elsewhere ;) Energy is never destroyed :P Um... Energy can be created and destroyed... Quantum Physics explains how. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle makes it so that matter is being created and destroyed all the time. Well excuse 99% of the TIF userbase for not studying quantum physics indepth I just posted something! ^_^ to the terrorist...er... kirbybeam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-man216 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It's actually placed elsewhere ;) Energy is never destroyed :P Um... Energy can be created and destroyed... Quantum Physics explains how. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle makes it so that matter is being created and destroyed all the time. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle states (In the most layman terms possible.) That one can never know the exact location or velocity of a particle at any given time. Try again. (I'm an atheist BTW.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadjack Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Does I belive or not in god? In fact, I don't know and don't care! I found by reading some philosophy book (don't remember in which one I find that) that we got, to get a better world for us, to act the same way if there is god or not! And that way goes for the good of the comunity. btw I'm studiing in physic at university and NO energie can't be created and detroy! it can only be change in a other form. Go reread your laws of thermodynamic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It's actually placed elsewhere ;) Energy is never destroyed :P Um... Energy can be created and destroyed... Quantum Physics explains how. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle makes it so that matter is being created and destroyed all the time. Well excuse 99% of the TIF userbase for not studying quantum physics indepth We don't need to runesmithie! This guy has no idea what he is talking about! The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can change its form. The Law of Conservation of Matter states that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that one cannot assign with full precision values for certain pairs of observable variables, including the position and momentum, of a single particle at the same time. How you related those three, or came up with an alternate definition for the latter of them is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 i am an anticrist... my mother is a believer i didnt, then the whole group of cristians start calling me a devilschild, i got stalked. some cristains talked with me about jezus but they kept comming closer to me i felt i as going to be abused and stuff... they had to insult me for more than 5 year and they still dont quit... they cant see me as a normal human.. so i started to insult them. im 16 and they are still trying to convince me god exsists, i wont believe.. on one side they try to convince me and on the other side they insult me.. That's not really antichrist ;) More of an atheist :P i hate all cristians, they ruined my pride for me :evil: Because hating an entire group of people for what some people claiming to be part of that group did must make you so proud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjbj1991 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 i am an anticrist... my mother is a believer i didnt, then the whole group of cristians start calling me a devilschild, i got stalked. some cristains talked with me about jezus but they kept comming closer to me i felt i as going to be abused and stuff... they had to insult me for more than 5 year and they still dont quit... they cant see me as a normal human.. so i started to insult them. im 16 and they are still trying to convince me god exsists, i wont believe.. on one side they try to convince me and on the other side they insult me.. That's not really antichrist ;) More of an atheist :P i hate all cristians, they ruined my pride for me :evil: Because hating an entire group of people for what some people claiming to be part of that group did must make you so proud... he does not like them because some of them hurt him emotionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 How can you say you hate all Christians? thats crazy? What about your family and friends. do you truely hate them? You come across as a little kid with a grudge against a few people. I am an atheist but some of my best friends are quite religious. I have Christian friends, Jewish friends and even a morman friend. I dont hate them at all, i dont even hate their religions. I don't like churches and organised religios "enforcers" but i certainly don't hate the belief system. I dont belive in any of it myself and I dont belive that you can only be a good person by following a religion but if it makes the people that truely follow it a better person then its fine by me. In conclusion... d-von is an idiot. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzammy_wiz Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It's actually placed elsewhere ;) Energy is never destroyed :P Um... Energy can be created and destroyed... Quantum Physics explains how. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle makes it so that matter is being created and destroyed all the time. Well excuse 99% of the TIF userbase for not studying quantum physics indepth We don't need to runesmithie! This guy has no idea what he is talking about! The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can change its form. The Law of Conservation of Matter states that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that one cannot assign with full precision values for certain pairs of observable variables, including the position and momentum, of a single particle at the same time. How you related those three, or came up with an alternate definition for the latter of them is beyond me. I know Ive leant that and Im 11 but it says it is wrong but they had to teach it to us athough they told us it was wrong , when you think of something you make enery when you make it go away it disapears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugATree Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Your brain needs energy to work, there will also be memory of your thought; you haven't really created energy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadjack Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can change its form. The Law of Conservation of Matter states that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. I just want to correct a little mistake: mass is a form of energie and we can reduce mass of some particules to get energie (nuclear powerplant) so only the first sentence is true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Can we please post the full laws here... a fundamental principle of classical physics that matter cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system http://www.answers.com/thermodynamics Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryderj716 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I'm buddhist so I think that the only important thing in the world is kindness to others. Ryderj716:I'll kill you you *********** noob!!!1! jjjjjjkkkkkk... 1690 total and unranked strength. Headed for 1800.I like the irony (no wait, paradoxicality) in how there's a spelling error in this sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_the_Viscous Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I myself don't even see why these laws are relevant in discussing religion. If a god is an all powerful being, then he would automatically > all laws of physics. Also, what are people trying to say by these statements? People keep quoting them, as if they in themselves should be a valid argument for the non-existance of god. What's more, it makes the people who use* them look like parrots, spouting whatever they've heard to make it sound as if they know what they're talking about**. I never expect the religious arguments to impress me more than those of the irreligious in a debate on this subject, but when it comes to this sort of thing, I have to re-think things. This is not to say that the religious arguments are any more convincing -- far from it; rather than the science arguments descend to their level of blind faith. *not those people who correct others in their use -- that's fine by me. **anyone who has quoted one of these laws who does know what they're talking about, pat yourself on back, and perhaps stop trying to bring needlessly them into religious debate. deviantart account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I myself don't even see why these laws are relevant in discussing religion. If a god is an all powerful being, then he would automatically > all laws of physics. Also, what are people trying to say by these statements? People keep quoting them, as if they in themselves should be a valid argument for the non-existance of god. What's more, it makes the people who use* them look like parrots, spouting whatever they've heard to make it sound as if they know what they're talking about**. I never expect the religious arguments to impress me more than those of the irreligious in a debate on this subject, but when it comes to this sort of thing, I have to re-think things. This is not to say that the religious arguments are any more convincing -- far from it; rather than the science arguments descend to their level of blind faith. *not those people who correct others in their use -- that's fine by me. **anyone who has quoted one of these laws who does know what they're talking about, pat yourself on back, and perhaps stop trying to bring needlessly them into religious debate. In defense of myself...I don't consider my post part of the religious argument. I just wanted to clarify the laws of physics and what they mean. I have no idea why they are being used i this conversation. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-von Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 In conclusion... d-von is an idiot. my family and friends do not believe untill my mother start believing.. i did NOT want to join them so they start stalking me, kept calling me a devilschild, never let me alone.. when im in my room playing runescape i DO NOT WANT A PREACH ABOUT GOD. when i send them out my room they start screaming satan is in my room i do NOT believe not in god not in satan not in budha in nothing... when your mother comes in your house with an total stranger who tells he loves me, when i say the perv must leave i get insulted by my own mother! i got no dignity (for dutch: ik ben niet in mn waarde gelaten) cristians made me very unsure about myself and i want them to stop but each time i ask them to stopt they start nagging bout me being under infuence of satan and i shall not get an good life some even said i would be unable to work and my astma was work of god (im very emotional about that part coz i cant do a lot of things i would, i had an cat once who had to leave coz of my astma when i was 10 year or so) the cristians in my town hurt me so much i disgust all of them. thats the better explained story in better english then the first one not everybody wants to hear the bubblegum pop garbage.im gonna burn in hell and drink all of satans beer.trashmetal/deathmetal/hardrock/folkmetal die hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 i am an anticrist... my mother is a believer i didnt, then the whole group of cristians start calling me a devilschild, i got stalked. some cristains talked with me about jezus but they kept comming closer to me i felt i as going to be abused and stuff... they had to insult me for more than 5 year and they still dont quit... they cant see me as a normal human.. so i started to insult them. im 16 and they are still trying to convince me god exsists, i wont believe.. on one side they try to convince me and on the other side they insult me.. That's not really antichrist ;) More of an atheist :P i hate all cristians, they ruined my pride for me :evil: Because hating an entire group of people for what some people claiming to be part of that group did must make you so proud... he does not like them because some of them hurt him emotionally. You're saying that because some Christians were mean to him, that is enough justification for him to hate all of them? Hahaha that's funny. I get made fun of by black people every day, who doesn't? But that doesn't mean I hate all black people. Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbybeam Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 We don't need to runesmithie! This guy has no idea what he is talking about! The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can change its form. The Law of Conservation of Matter states that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that one cannot assign with full precision values for certain pairs of observable variables, including the position and momentum, of a single particle at the same time. How you related those three, or came up with an alternate definition for the latter of them is beyond me. The uncertainty principle in the form implies that in the vacuum one or more particles with energy ÃÆýââ∠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 We don't need to runesmithie! This guy has no idea what he is talking about! The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can change its form. The Law of Conservation of Matter states that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that one cannot assign with full precision values for certain pairs of observable variables, including the position and momentum, of a single particle at the same time. How you related those three, or came up with an alternate definition for the latter of them is beyond me. The uncertainty principle in the form implies that in the vacuum one or more particles with energy ÃÆýââ∠Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runesmithie Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Again, if you expect 99% of TIF to understand this then you are completely wrong and you can shove that smiley up your log factory...... Edit: That was to kirbybeam, not MPC I just posted something! ^_^ to the terrorist...er... kirbybeam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbybeam Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Again, if you expect 99% of TIF to understand this then you are completely wrong and you can shove that smiley up your log factory...... Edit: That was to kirbybeam, not MPC The guy told me that I don't know what I'm talking about. Obviously, that's means he claims he knows more about physics than I do. Thus, if he cannot understand my arguments, that's HIS problem, not mine. I gave a simple physics equation: which clearly states what I intended. As I said, it is simple. Virtual particles are being created and destroyed in a vacuum all the time, due to the uncertainty principle. If you disagree, then show me where I am wrong. On a final note, stop being so pompus (telling me to shove it up my "log factory"; I have never heard that expression used in my life). Being respectful makes you credible. Oh, and :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic-is-overrated Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Being respectful makes you credible.That was sarcasm right? Or would that be considered ironic? This is the way the world ends. Look at this [bleep]ing shit we're in man. Not with a bang, but with a whimper. And with a whimper, I'm splitting, Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Oh, and :roll: Your 'rolling of the eyes' is not respectful. It is no more than childish mockery. I still don't understand how two laws that have been around for ages can contradict each other. It makes no sense to me. Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbybeam Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Your 'rolling of the eyes' is not respectful. It is no more than childish mockery. Even so, I am being much more patient than my opposition. That's all I'm striving for, I don't need to go farther than that. I still don't understand how two laws that have been around for ages can contradict each other. It makes no sense to me. Argument from ignorance. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it is wrong. These "laws' are NOT absolute; perhaps that's what is causing your confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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